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Postby Purpelia » Tue Nov 24, 2015 1:44 pm

Ak-74u in .357 magnum as tanker pistol. Y/N?
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Postby New Visegrad » Tue Nov 24, 2015 1:45 pm

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It would have the barrel length and the furniture of an SMG, so the same performance as an SMG I guess. I'm just curious as to why I should have a whole new SMG when I could more easily convert an existing handgun.


If you are converting a handgun into full auto, adding a stock and lengthening the barrel it sounds like you've just designed a new SMG. I don't think you would save much on development and other costs.

yeah but you'd save on time spent not being 110% baller
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Postby Fordorsia » Tue Nov 24, 2015 1:55 pm

Purpelia wrote:Ak-74u in .357 magnum as tanker pistol. Y/N?


sure why not
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Postby Immoren » Tue Nov 24, 2015 2:14 pm

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Postby Arkandros » Tue Nov 24, 2015 2:14 pm

Purpelia wrote:Ak-74u in .357 magnum as tanker pistol. Y/N?

Why bother? the AK-74U is already a decent tanker carbine.
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Postby Purpelia » Tue Nov 24, 2015 2:15 pm

Arkandros wrote:
Purpelia wrote:Ak-74u in .357 magnum as tanker pistol. Y/N?

Why bother? the AK-74U is already a decent tanker carbine.

I figure it would have less recoil and muzzle flash and stuff. And like just imagine how many .357's I could fit inside a standard magazine!
Also like frankly because it's cool.
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Postby Korva » Tue Nov 24, 2015 2:19 pm

Purpelia wrote:
Arkandros wrote:Why bother? the AK-74U is already a decent tanker carbine.

I figure it would have less recoil and muzzle flash and stuff. And like just imagine how many .357's I could fit inside a standard magazine!
Also like frankly because it's cool.

just do something like a calico or bizon

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Postby EsToVnIa » Tue Nov 24, 2015 2:21 pm

AKS-74 is already a good enough tanker carine
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Postby Purpelia » Tue Nov 24, 2015 2:22 pm

Way the deflate the coolness.

Anyway, here is a Q. My nextgen rifle is going to be a light bullpup thing. Is it worth making a carbine for tankers or should I just issue the god dam full length thing.
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Postby EsToVnIa » Tue Nov 24, 2015 2:26 pm

Korva wrote:
Estovnia wrote:AKS-74 is already a good enough tanker carine

yeah but purpelian troll logic isn't satisfied with things like "good enough" "sufficient" or "already perfectly suited"


as others has stated, purpelian troll logic is retarded
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Postby Kazarogkai » Tue Nov 24, 2015 2:39 pm

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They are still in use by irregular units as such I presume they should work fine for government backed paramilitary forces operating in the city.
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Postby Crookfur » Tue Nov 24, 2015 2:51 pm

Puzikas wrote:
Fordorsia wrote:Actually I've never looked into why squad leaders were the ones with SMGs for decades. pls explain


Better use of automatic fire in the thought process of the era.

Purpelia wrote:I was talking about WW1 mostly.


All the major nations of the era issued their standard arms to LTs. and NCOs. Sometimes they ALSO had Pistols but there was almost always a rifle.


Actually british officers weren't issued rifles until the SLR came along and even then they were only permitted to have one if they scored particulalry well on it duirng qualification and did less well with the sterling.

Of coruse even in ww1 when officers only got a pistol they were still trained in rifle drill and expected to qualify with the rifle so that they would be in a position to help instruct and drill thier troops.

Whislt not issued with a rifle it wasn't unknown for an officer to pick one up or bring something from home given the much greater lattitude officers had in terms of gear since they were allowed to equip themselves if so desired.

Moving into ww2 it became more common for officers to tote SMGs (and eventually M1 carbines) around but this was mainly a thing in more specialist front line units like paras, commandaos and the varied special children of the 8th army.
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Postby Arkandros » Tue Nov 24, 2015 2:51 pm

Purpelia wrote:Way the deflate the coolness.

nonononono! You should totally do an AK-74U in .357 magnum! I want to see how much rimlock you get.
srsly tho- If you're committed to your identity crisis of a tanker pistol, the SR-3 has you covered.
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Postby Crookfur » Tue Nov 24, 2015 2:52 pm

Purpelia wrote:Way the deflate the coolness.

Anyway, here is a Q. My nextgen rifle is going to be a light bullpup thing. Is it worth making a carbine for tankers or should I just issue the god dam full length thing.


depends how long overall it ends up being and how easy it is to carbine without having to do major things to it to make it run right with a short barrel.
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Postby Puzikas » Tue Nov 24, 2015 2:54 pm

Arkandros wrote:
Purpelia wrote:Way the deflate the coolness.

nonononono! You should totally do an AK-74U in .357 magnum! I want to see how much rimlock you get.
srsly tho- If you're committed to your identity crisis of a tanker pistol, the SR-3 has you covered.


You won't have any of you do it enough, there's plenty of rimmed caliber AKs.

There's just no advantage to it
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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Tue Nov 24, 2015 2:55 pm

Purpelia wrote:Anyway, here is a Q. My nextgen rifle is going to be a light bullpup thing. Is it worth making a carbine for tankers or should I just issue the god dam full length thing.

Don't give them a full length rifle. They might think they can win infantry battles. Give them a pistol.
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Postby Korva » Tue Nov 24, 2015 2:57 pm

Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:
Purpelia wrote:Anyway, here is a Q. My nextgen rifle is going to be a light bullpup thing. Is it worth making a carbine for tankers or should I just issue the god dam full length thing.

Don't give them a full length rifle. They might think they can win infantry battles. Give them a pistol.

why? so they think they can win close combat fighting?

give them a rape whistle

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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Tue Nov 24, 2015 2:59 pm

Korva wrote:
Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:Don't give them a full length rifle. They might think they can win infantry battles. Give them a pistol.

why? so they think they can win close combat fighting?

give them a rape whistle

Why? So they can kick off a 3 man human wave attack?

Give them pens and good parchment.
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Postby Korva » Tue Nov 24, 2015 3:02 pm

Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:
Korva wrote:why? so they think they can win close combat fighting?

give them a rape whistle

Why? So they can kick off a 3 man human wave attack?

Give them pens and good parchment.

why? so they can write angsty anti-war novels?

give them flashcards they can use to communicate their emotional status

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Postby Arkandros » Tue Nov 24, 2015 3:02 pm

Puzikas wrote:
Arkandros wrote:nonononono! You should totally do an AK-74U in .357 magnum! I want to see how much rimlock you get.
srsly tho- If you're committed to your identity crisis of a tanker pistol, the SR-3 has you covered.


You won't have any of you do it enough, there's plenty of rimmed caliber AKs.

There's just no advantage to it

I'm not all that familiar with the AK system, so what has it been chambered in that's rimmed?
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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Tue Nov 24, 2015 3:11 pm

Korva wrote:
Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:Why? So they can kick off a 3 man human wave attack?

Give them pens and good parchment.

why? so they can write angsty anti-war novels?

give them flashcards they can use to communicate their emotional status

Why, so they can turn them into a viral video about victims of society suffering in silence?

Give them nerf bats and a pat on the head.
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Postby Purpelia » Tue Nov 24, 2015 3:15 pm

Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:
Korva wrote:why? so they can write angsty anti-war novels?

give them flashcards they can use to communicate their emotional status

Why, so they can turn them into a viral video about victims of society suffering in silence?

Give them nerf bats and a pat on the head.

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Purpelia does not reflect my actual world views. In fact, the vast majority of Purpelian cannon is meant to shock and thus deliberately insane. I just like playing with the idea of a country of madmen utterly convinced that everyone else are the barbarians. So play along or not but don't ever think it's for real.



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Postby Sevvania » Tue Nov 24, 2015 3:18 pm

Arkandros wrote:
Puzikas wrote:
You won't have any of you do it enough, there's plenty of rimmed caliber AKs.

There's just no advantage to it

I'm not all that familiar with the AK system, so what has it been chambered in that's rimmed?

762x54mmR and 12 gauge are the ones that immediately come to mind.
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