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Postby Naval Monte » Fri Nov 13, 2015 7:18 pm

Now I'm wondering how different alternative versions of the characters will be like?
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Postby Petrokovia » Fri Nov 13, 2015 7:21 pm

Naval Monte wrote:Now I'm wondering how different alternative versions of the characters will be like?

Maybe that's something Aet can add. He could introduce alternate forms of our characters that might act as rivals.

It's probably a bit ambitious, though, considering we're kind of doing a character and nation RP in one.
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Postby Naval Monte » Fri Nov 13, 2015 7:47 pm

Petrokovia wrote:
Naval Monte wrote:Now I'm wondering how different alternative versions of the characters will be like?

Maybe that's something Aet can add. He could introduce alternate forms of our characters that might act as rivals.

It's probably a bit ambitious, though, considering we're kind of doing a character and nation RP in one.


Now I have to wonder what would be a perfect alternative rival for my character? Maybe one that is more well adjusted and happier than the original? Yeah the alternative Elizabeth would be a good rival since she would be a more fitting role as a hero than the original.
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Postby Aterrian Union » Fri Nov 13, 2015 9:19 pm

Space ship talk:
I found from stardestroyer.net that an avg 1.6 km Imperial-Class Star Destroyer can output 1.9 gigatons of firepower a second. Now that's a lot.
I then did some math for my ships' standard MAC, the M-100 Rail Projector. Take a look at this. According to this site http://www.st-v-sw.net/STSWwarpram.html and TV tropes, a shell going at 90% light speed does its equivalent in antimatter. I was really shocked to find that one MAC shell had the equivalent of 50000 tons of antimatter, which contains 1952000000 megatons of destructive force (link: http://www.edwardmuller.com/index.php?Page=calculator). Oh my god. To think my ships have 20 of these (10 each side), and this isn't counting the extra laser turrets and beam projectors. Oh my god. Take into account that the M-100 can get 2-3 RPM. Jesus Christ.

I wasn't sure about armor, but I'm going to say an average warship can take 4-5 M-100 volleys to its sides before the armor buckles. The armor is very shock-wave resistant and also very energy resistant. It's called Tritanium A and has admantium as one of the three metals in it.
Shielding can probably take another 6-8 volleys. This is the standard 15km warship.

I'm not even going to get into space combat at this point. It's either that I'm half insane or the weapons are really powerful. A star destroyer would most likely get gutted by a single M-100 shot. I'm going to assume the death star could take major damage from these volleys.
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Postby Apto » Fri Nov 13, 2015 11:53 pm

I thought it was already agreed upon that we won't be doing the "different version of every character ever" thing?

Admittedly, having Homura face her more innocent past and unsatisfied future selves, having Oriko talk to a Oriko that's actually heroic and knows her true purpose in life, having Kirika look another Kirika in the eye when she learns that Oriko plans on killing herself after this is all over, and having Sayaka face a jaded or crazy version of herself is incredibly appealing.

The number one thing that causes conflict between Homura, Oriko, Kirika and Sayaka is the fact that they remund each other so much of themselves. Homura, Kirika and Sayaka gave up their everything for one person. Oriko is the inverse of all three, she'll sacrifice the few for the many, and a mockery of Sayaka's beliefs.

I've been wanting to do this ever since I apped for Sayaka:
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Some clarification on the Fleet of Fog's stance on humans. They don't hate them. Kongou and her little sect does since they're the ones that keep on having to fight Blue Steel, but the rest of the Fleet is rather indifferent towards fleshy meatbags. The Scarlet Fleet under Musashi have allied themselves with a dying Great Britain against the rest of Europe and the Mediterranean Blockade Fleets. Lexington, the Flagship of one of the Atlantic Fleets seem pretty enthusiastic fighting human crewed Fog Ships since its a great opportunity to learn from each other and then there's the Supreme Flagship, Yamato, who only pays lipservice to the Admiralty Code but otherwise doesn't give a damn about it and its orders of blockading the oceans. One of her Mental Models is Kotono Amaha, Gunzou's childhood friend and crush, but it remains to be seen if she feels anything for her human friends anymore or just considers them tools for whatever game she's playing against Musashi.

I have no idea what animatter is. Did you mean antimatter? I shall also wave my SB/SV superiority flag over your SD calcs. :p

You guys have fun with your spacebattles, I'm gonna go focus on the ground side action and development of my characters.
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Postby Petrokovia » Sat Nov 14, 2015 1:03 am

Apto wrote:You guys have fun with your spacebattles, I'm gonna go focus on the ground side action and development of my characters.

I would, too, but I'm waiting on Aet.

Lol.
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من خلال الشدائد وسفك الدماء إلى المجد نسير بنور قلوبنا على طريق ميكوتورماه
National Anthem: Our Country!
National Religion: Vesperism

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Postby Saskisdi » Sat Nov 14, 2015 1:06 am

Petrokovia wrote:
Apto wrote:You guys have fun with your spacebattles, I'm gonna go focus on the ground side action and development of my characters.

I would, too, but I'm waiting on Aet.

Lol.

Join the club.
Oh wait.

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Postby Petrokovia » Sat Nov 14, 2015 1:07 am

Saskisdi wrote:
Petrokovia wrote:I would, too, but I'm waiting on Aet.

Lol.

Join the club.
Oh wait.

I started it. XD
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Anti: Fascism, absolute monarchy, capitalism, imperialism, Demiurge/Saklas, bigotry of any kind
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من خلال الشدائد وسفك الدماء إلى المجد نسير بنور قلوبنا على طريق ميكوتورماه
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Postby 404-Name not found » Sat Nov 14, 2015 1:48 am

Apto wrote:I thought it was already agreed upon that we won't be doing the "different version of every character ever" thing?

Admittedly, having Homura face her more innocent past and unsatisfied future selves, having Oriko talk to a Oriko that's actually heroic and knows her true purpose in life, having Kirika look another Kirika in the eye when she learns that Oriko plans on killing herself after this is all over, and having Sayaka face a jaded or crazy version of herself is incredibly appealing.

The number one thing that causes conflict between Homura, Oriko, Kirika and Sayaka is the fact that they remund each other so much of themselves. Homura, Kirika and Sayaka gave up their everything for one person. Oriko is the inverse of all three, she'll sacrifice the few for the many, and a mockery of Sayaka's beliefs.

I've been wanting to do this ever since I apped for Sayaka:
(Image)

Some clarification on the Fleet of Fog's stance on humans. They don't hate them. Kongou and her little sect does since they're the ones that keep on having to fight Blue Steel, but the rest of the Fleet is rather indifferent towards fleshy meatbags. The Scarlet Fleet under Musashi have allied themselves with a dying Great Britain against the rest of Europe and the Mediterranean Blockade Fleets. Lexington, the Flagship of one of the Atlantic Fleets seem pretty enthusiastic fighting human crewed Fog Ships since its a great opportunity to learn from each other and then there's the Supreme Flagship, Yamato, who only pays lipservice to the Admiralty Code but otherwise doesn't give a damn about it and its orders of blockading the oceans. One of her Mental Models is Kotono Amaha, Gunzou's childhood friend and crush, but it remains to be seen if she feels anything for her human friends anymore or just considers them tools for whatever game she's playing against Musashi.

I have no idea what animatter is. Did you mean antimatter? I shall also wave my SB/SV superiority flag over your SD calcs. :p

You guys have fun with your spacebattles, I'm gonna go focus on the ground side action and development of my characters.


Now someone with telepathy and stuff needs to create doubles, just because that would be an awesome fight
Why is it that the more radical any belief, the more vocal its supporters are?

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Postby 404-Name not found » Sat Nov 14, 2015 6:49 am

Evil just got a new minion (at least, if this is accepted, it will have)
Name:The Aberration, Test Subject #079

Starting Affiliation: Evil

Gender: Male, once

Age: 3 Years (As the aberration), 42 Years (As human)

Appearance: A giant hulking thing, about 5 metres tall, made from parts of the corpses of fallen foes, held together by psychic energy, leading to purple glows appearing through the seams between the bodies

Species: Human, once

Universe of Origin: OC

Backstory: After an experiment to grant people with psychic powers went horribly right, test subject #079 decided to put his newfound powers to use, murdering the security forces, scientists and other test subjects within his holding facility, taking parts from their corpses to augment himself.

Powers and Abilities: Can gain abilities and knowledge from people via telepathy or organ stealing. Can manifest psychic energy as blasts, or illusions. (requires lots of exertion, can be lethal if kept up too long)

Weaknesses: Needs to exert a certain amount psychic energy to keep body together, so overexertion is lethal. Easily taunted.

Destructive Capacity: Building Level

Speed: 1m/s

Durability: Large Building Level (Will have to exert large amounts of psychic energy to survive, and will be vulnerable afterwards )

Lifting Strength: Class 5-1000-5000 kilograms

Striking Strength: Class KJ

Stamina: Moderate.

Standard Equipment: None

Intelligence: Lower than human average.
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Postby Aterrian Union » Sat Nov 14, 2015 7:23 am

Weapon of the Day: VS-3000 Atomic Destablizer.
Essentially a super heavy tank mounted version of the M-500 Particle Flayer, this weapon completely ignores almost all types of shielding and armor. It flays the atoms off it's targets just like the M-500, except for the fact it's a 300mm Tank mounted gun. A great weapon, commonly used on the M-170 A2 Heavy Battle Tank.

You guys should see the Necron Gauss Cannon, this weapon is based off of it, just vehicle sized.

I will continue to post my ideas for my faction's weapons, if that's alright :) .
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Postby 404-Name not found » Sat Nov 14, 2015 8:03 am

Aterrian Union wrote:Weapon of the Day: VS-3000 Atomic Destablizer.
Essentially a super heavy tank mounted version of the M-500 Particle Flayer, this weapon completely ignores almost all types of shielding and armor. It flays the atoms off it's targets just like the M-500, except for the fact it's a 300mm Tank mounted gun. A great weapon, commonly used on the M-170 A2 Heavy Battle Tank.

You guys should see the Necron Gauss Cannon, this weapon is based off of it, just vehicle sized.

I will continue to post my ideas for my faction's weapons, if that's alright :) .

I reckon you should just make one mega-post with ideas all in spoilers, so it doesn't clutter the thread up and is all there for reference.
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Postby The Intergalactic Russian Empire » Sat Nov 14, 2015 8:34 am

Why isn't anyone online on Steam? I know it's early but it really feels weird to have 0 friends online.
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Paketo wrote:
Alleniana wrote:'the Blacks in the region began to proliferate"
What? What does that even mean? Like, they took over and castrated all the non-blacks?


it means the baby daddies and their sugar mommas got busy and out produced the whites asians and everyone else

Apto wrote:
Aeternabilis wrote:Time for the Second Battle for Kongou's Body! Now with 3x the combatants!

That sounds so lewd when taken out of context. :rofl:
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Postby Aeternabilis » Sat Nov 14, 2015 8:46 am

Sorry for the long wait guys. The Aberration and the weird ponysona Oracle thing are accepted. And I'm sorry Petro, but as Apto said I'm only allowing one version of a character here. To the members of the Waiting on Aet Club, I'll hopefully have a post up soon, and to IRE, I must've started Steam in Offline Mode and never turned it back online.
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Postby The Intergalactic Russian Empire » Sat Nov 14, 2015 8:49 am

Aeternabilis wrote:Sorry for the long wait guys. The Aberration and the weird ponysona Oracle thing are accepted. And I'm sorry Petro, but as Apto said I'm only allowing one version of a character here. To the members of the Waiting on Aet Club, I'll hopefully have a post up soon, and to IRE, I must've started Steam in Offline Mode and never turned it back online.

Alright.
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Paketo wrote:
Alleniana wrote:'the Blacks in the region began to proliferate"
What? What does that even mean? Like, they took over and castrated all the non-blacks?


it means the baby daddies and their sugar mommas got busy and out produced the whites asians and everyone else

Apto wrote:
Aeternabilis wrote:Time for the Second Battle for Kongou's Body! Now with 3x the combatants!

That sounds so lewd when taken out of context. :rofl:
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Postby Apto » Sat Nov 14, 2015 8:57 am

404-Name not found wrote:Now someone with telepathy and stuff needs to create doubles, just because that would be an awesome fight

It definitely would. It isn't just a challenge physically, but also emotionally and mentally.

PMMM always has been about tearing characters down and exploiting their insecurities and faults. Sayaka for example, goes from "I'll protect this City from Witches!" to "It doesn't matter if you're a witch, a magical girl, or a human, if you're a threat, I'll kill you." after a week or less on the job. The smiling, dirty version of Sayaka is what happens whenever she goes "It doesn't hurt anymore!". She stops being the Idealistic Knight she started out as, and turns into a Murderous Berzerker that kills and kills all that she finds lacking, including herself.

I've always wondered who'd win in a fight between the Knight and the Berzerker. Of course, if we really want to be cruel, there's a more horrifying entity lurking in Sayaka's mind than the Berzerker. Facing that thing while Sayaka's still inexperienced would probably kill her from the revelation alone.

Kirika meanwhile, has based her entire life around Oriko. She literally cannot live without her beloved White. She serves her princess as best as she could. The question is, why?

The Kirika everyone knows and sees isn't actually Kirika. Its what Kirika thinks is the ideal person for Oriko. The actual Kirika is a shy, meek, petty, and hurtful little girl afraid and jealous of others. She serves Oriko because she loves her. She even willingly raped her own mind to do so and would never want to go back to her old self.

The problem is, Oriko doesn't believe she has a place in the new world she's creating. Her sins weigh too heavily on her conscience and the new world won't need a Seer like her. The ideal Kirika can't disobey Oriko. The only way she'll convince White to not commit suicide is by going back to the spiteful little girl she used to be and she has clearly stated that there's no way in hell she's going back to her former self.

Kirika needs to be selfish if she wants Oriko alive. The ideal Kirika, the fake she feeds Oriko and everyone else, is incapable of being anything but selfless.

Much like Kirika, Homura's world revolves around that one person she keeps on trying to save. She's playing a unwinnable, never-ending game where the best possible outcome still has her losing the person she's fought for all this time. Think of her as Sans from Undertale fighting the genocidal PC except Sans is aware of every single retry or if you prefer the classics, think of her as Sisyphus rolling his boulder uphill only for the boulder to be thrown back down everytime he reaches the top. This image sums it up quite nicely:
Image
In Homura's CONTINUE? screen there is no NO. Only YES.

Now, the aloof, cold, badass exterior she shows everyone is a defense mechanism she developed to keep herself sane. Imagine if she meets her past self and that past self, upon learning about her fate, shows the slightest hint of hesitation. Imagine her meeting her future self and that future self told her to give up on the timeloops. Told her that the only way to win is to not play.

That would destroy Homura. The knowledge that she would even consider giving up, that all her efforts have been in vain, that there is no way to win no matter what she tries or how many resets she has. Oh, she'd reject those revelations but they would stay in the back of her mind, haunting her after every failure and their grip on her mind growing stronger every time she cranks her shield to turn back time.

Finally, Oriko. She wanted to know her purpose in life. She got the ability to see in the future and depending on what she saw, she would either die heroically fighting Walpurgisnacht die like a chump when Homura shoots her in the head but succeeding in her goal of preventing Kreimhield Gretchen from being born and consuming entire Multiverses. The former casts Oriko as a hero whose hands are clean while the latter has Oriko as a well-intentioned extremist willing to sacrifice the few for the many.

Her main motivation is to get away from her father's shadow and be her own person. She doesn't want to be just the Corrupt Chancellor Mikuni's daughter. She wants to be Oriko Mikuni, an individual separate from her family legacy. She got that recognition in the world of Magical Girls. Even if history and the rest of the human species won't remember her, it was in this bloody world where people treated her as an actual person.

Unlike everyone else I mentioned, she would be the least affected by meeting an alternate version of herself. Her main problem lies in the fact that she's suicidal and unable to accept that after this, she won't have a reason to live on anymore.

Let it be known that being a Magical Girl isn't healthy.


In my haste to shove my "LOOK AT ALL THESE INTERESTING CHARACTERS" view down your throats, I may have missed or stated wrong facts but whatever, its late at night and I need to sleep.
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The Union Army: A Basic Factbook

Postby Aterrian Union » Sat Nov 14, 2015 9:05 am

The Union Army is a colossal, well funded fighting force that serves the Union on the ground. It utilizes many different forms of combat equipment, and contains people from all over the Union's estimate 250 million worlds.

The Infantry soldier:
The average Union soldier is similar to the Imperial Guard of older times. He/she carries a laser rifle, however, it is roughly 5 times as powerful as an old Imperial lasgun. Other standard issue weapons include plasma carbines and infantry railguns. Reverse engineered and higher powered weapons such a the M-500 Particle Flayer are often used 1-2 every squad of ten. Armor is the combat suit, which resembles carapace armor, but is much more protective overall. All soldiers are also issued a built-in gas mask on their helmets. Essentially they are Imperial Stormtrooper (kasrkins) with better equipment.


Vehicles and Mecha Suits:
Vehicles can range from the old Landraider (upgraded of course) to heavy battle tanks and mobile plasma artillery. The M-170 A2 is a good example of fine Union engineering, using our version of the Necron Gauss Cannon and armored in the same metal as our starships. An average assault force contains thousands of vehicles, and a large Mecha complement. Our Mechas are just diverse as the standard vehicles, ranging from small to titan sized. They are all quite maneuverable and powerful (Imagine an Emperor Class titan except faster, more advanced, and better shielded and armed). Union titans are no joke, and make AT-AT's look puny.


The Navy (ground):
It's odd, but even in the future there are navy ships out there. Typically all navy ships seem to represent older models, although they may be slightly sleeker and lack unnecessary components (Crew living space, usually there are like 20-30 member on board a Yamato sized ship at Max). Ships are controlled by Artificial Intelligences, something more conservative crew members find disturbing. While normally used for patrol, these navy ships can fight, and have an assortment of weapons, including a starship grade destabilizer cannon (same idea with Necron weapons). The first citizen doesn't like copyright infringement, so some ships (like the Yamato 2, which is 1000 ft long. It looks a bit like the space ship variant {there are actually pocket warships like that}), are refrained from looking too fictional (the copyrights don't really matter anymore, it's just the First Citizen's way of screwing around).


A typical assault force contains 100,000,000 soldiers and thousands of vehicles + mechas. Navy ships can be dropped via starship.
Fun fact: The Requiem originally created the Union's home universe as some sort of sad joke.
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Postby The Intergalactic Russian Empire » Sat Nov 14, 2015 9:09 am

Apto wrote:
404-Name not found wrote:Now someone with telepathy and stuff needs to create doubles, just because that would be an awesome fight

It definitely would. It isn't just a challenge physically, but also emotionally and mentally.

PMMM always has been about tearing characters down and exploiting their insecurities and faults. Sayaka for example, goes from "I'll protect this City from Witches!" to "It doesn't matter if you're a witch, a magical girl, or a human, if you're a threat, I'll kill you." after a week or less on the job. The smiling, dirty version of Sayaka is what happens whenever she goes "It doesn't hurt anymore!". She stops being the Idealistic Knight she started out as, and turns into a Murderous Berzerker that kills and kills all that she finds lacking, including herself.

I've always wondered who'd win in a fight between the Knight and the Berzerker. Of course, if we really want to be cruel, there's a more horrifying entity lurking in Sayaka's mind than the Berzerker. Facing that thing while Sayaka's still inexperienced would probably kill her from the revelation alone.

Kirika meanwhile, has based her entire life around Oriko. She literally cannot live without her beloved White. She serves her princess as best as she could. The question is, why?

The Kirika everyone knows and sees isn't actually Kirika. Its what Kirika thinks is the ideal person for Oriko. The actual Kirika is a shy, meek, petty, and hurtful little girl afraid and jealous of others. She serves Oriko because she loves her. She even willingly raped her own mind to do so and would never want to go back to her old self.

The problem is, Oriko doesn't believe she has a place in the new world she's creating. Her sins weigh too heavily on her conscience and the new world won't need a Seer like her. The ideal Kirika can't disobey Oriko. The only way she'll convince White to not commit suicide is by going back to the spiteful little girl she used to be and she has clearly stated that there's no way in hell she's going back to her former self.

Kirika needs to be selfish if she wants Oriko alive. The ideal Kirika, the fake she feeds Oriko and everyone else, is incapable of being anything but selfless.

Much like Kirika, Homura's world revolves around that one person she keeps on trying to save. She's playing a unwinnable, never-ending game where the best possible outcome still has her losing the person she's fought for all this time. Think of her as Sans from Undertale fighting the genocidal PC except Sans is aware of every single retry or if you prefer the classics, think of her as Sisyphus rolling his boulder uphill only for the boulder to be thrown back down everytime he reaches the top. This image sums it up quite nicely:
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In Homura's CONTINUE? screen there is no NO. Only YES.

Now, the aloof, cold, badass exterior she shows everyone is a defense mechanism she developed to keep herself sane. Imagine if she meets her past self and that past self, upon learning about her fate, shows the slightest hint of hesitation. Imagine her meeting her future self and that future self told her to give up on the timeloops. Told her that the only way to win is to not play.

That would destroy Homura. The knowledge that she would even consider giving up, that all her efforts have been in vain, that there is no way to win no matter what she tries or how many resets she has. Oh, she'd reject those revelations but they would stay in the back of her mind, haunting her after every failure and their grip on her mind growing stronger every time she cranks her shield to turn back time.

Finally, Oriko. She wanted to know her purpose in life. She got the ability to see in the future and depending on what she saw, she would either die heroically fighting Walpurgisnacht die like a chump when Homura shoots her in the head but succeeding in her goal of preventing Kreimhield Gretchen from being born and consuming entire Multiverses. The former casts Oriko as a hero whose hands are clean while the latter has Oriko as a well-intentioned extremist willing to sacrifice the few for the many.

Her main motivation is to get away from her father's shadow and be her own person. She doesn't want to be just the Corrupt Chancellor Mikuni's daughter. She wants to be Oriko Mikuni, an individual separate from her family legacy. She got that recognition in the world of Magical Girls. Even if history and the rest of the human species won't remember her, it was in this bloody world where people treated her as an actual person.

Unlike everyone else I mentioned, she would be the least affected by meeting an alternate version of herself. Her main problem lies in the fact that she's suicidal and unable to accept that after this, she won't have a reason to live on anymore.

Let it be known that being a Magical Girl isn't healthy.


In my haste to shove my "LOOK AT ALL THESE INTERESTING CHARACTERS" view down your throats, I may have missed or stated wrong facts but whatever, its late at night and I need to sleep.

Speaking of PMMM, it seems it's becoming more and more inescapable for me, first I see people making comparisons for SU, now I join the Undertale fandom and see people drawing some comparisons there. Like saying that Omega Flowey aka The Photoshop Abomination looks something from PMMM. Is this true? Just wondering, I'm interested in what you have to say about it.
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Alleniana wrote:'the Blacks in the region began to proliferate"
What? What does that even mean? Like, they took over and castrated all the non-blacks?


it means the baby daddies and their sugar mommas got busy and out produced the whites asians and everyone else

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Aeternabilis wrote:Time for the Second Battle for Kongou's Body! Now with 3x the combatants!

That sounds so lewd when taken out of context. :rofl:
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Postby Aeternabilis » Sat Nov 14, 2015 10:03 am

Finally got a fuckin post up, hopefully I didn't miss anybody and the Waiting for Aet club can disband for a day or so.
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Postby Slenderman The CreepyPasta King » Sat Nov 14, 2015 11:00 am

Aeternabilis wrote:Finally got a fuckin post up, hopefully I didn't miss anybody and the Waiting for Aet club can disband for a day or so.


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Postby Apto » Sat Nov 14, 2015 2:48 pm

The Intergalactic Russian Empire wrote:Speaking of PMMM, it seems it's becoming more and more inescapable for me, first I see people making comparisons for SU, now I join the Undertale fandom and see people drawing some comparisons there. Like saying that Omega Flowey aka The Photoshop Abomination looks something from PMMM. Is this true? Just wondering, I'm interested in what you have to say about it.

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Are people saying Omega Flowey looks like Gertrud and a bit of H.N. Elly? There are some similarities, but the two characters are distinct enought from each other that you can't mistake them from each other.

Take a look at Gertrud and HN ELLY yourself, see if you can find any similarities between them and Omega Flowey.
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Postby The Intergalactic Russian Empire » Sat Nov 14, 2015 4:02 pm

Apto wrote:
The Intergalactic Russian Empire wrote:Speaking of PMMM, it seems it's becoming more and more inescapable for me, first I see people making comparisons for SU, now I join the Undertale fandom and see people drawing some comparisons there. Like saying that Omega Flowey aka The Photoshop Abomination looks something from PMMM. Is this true? Just wondering, I'm interested in what you have to say about it.

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ABOGABOGABOGA

Are people saying Omega Flowey looks like Gertrud and a bit of H.N. Elly? There are some similarities, but the two characters are distinct enought from each other that you can't mistake them from each other.

Take a look at Gertrud and HN ELLY yourself, see if you can find any similarities between them and Omega Flowey.
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They don't compare him to a specific character, though one person said he looked like a Witch from PMMM, and I also just found this comment "madoka magica called, they want their boss battle back" it's probably because Undertale is the most anime thing that could be made by a guy from Boston, or so I've heard.

Bonus, Flowey (in a manner similar to the likes of Bill or Kyubey) begins looking all nice and friendly then turns out to be SUPER evil.
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turns to what you saw up there

Everything seems nice and innocent one minute then becomes dark the next, I think that's the main connection between the two. For example, LV/LOVE means Level of Violence, EXP means Execution Points, things like that.
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Alleniana wrote:'the Blacks in the region began to proliferate"
What? What does that even mean? Like, they took over and castrated all the non-blacks?


it means the baby daddies and their sugar mommas got busy and out produced the whites asians and everyone else

Apto wrote:
Aeternabilis wrote:Time for the Second Battle for Kongou's Body! Now with 3x the combatants!

That sounds so lewd when taken out of context. :rofl:
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Postby Apto » Sat Nov 14, 2015 4:59 pm

The Intergalactic Russian Empire wrote:They don't compare him to a specific character, though one person said he looked like a Witch from PMMM, and I also just found this comment "madoka magica called, they want their boss battle back" it's probably because Undertale is the most anime thing that could be made by a guy from Boston, or so I've heard.

Bonus, Flowey (in a manner similar to the likes of Bill or Kyubey) begins looking all nice and friendly then turns out to be SUPER evil.
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turns to what you saw up there

Everything seems nice and innocent one minute then becomes dark the next, I think that's the main connection between the two. For example, LV/LOVE means Level of Violence, EXP means Execution Points, things like that.

Oh, I've watched LPs of Undertale already, its a great game, I just don't have enough money in my Steam to buy it myself. I'm also too lazy to go through the whole process of transferring money from my bank account.

Actually, I get it now. What you said is true but for Flowey, its doubly true because if you put his Omega form in PMMM, they'd mistake it for a Witch because his so similar to them.

He's drawn in a different artstyle, is freaky, and extremely dangerous, exactly just like a Witch. Each Witch is a unique Boss and their Barriers (Pocket Dimensions they live in) are described as "psychadelic-fever-nightmares-now-with-extra-drugs" with no two being the same.

Look at this as an example, no wonder people made comparisons between Flowey and Witches.
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I'd show more but I think that's enough images from me today. Plus, it just isn't the same without the beautiful music accompanying it.

Hey, Aet, of you want another Zarall relic, use Walpurgisnacht's Grief Seed as one. This discussion just gave me ideas. :)
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Postby Aterrian Union » Sat Nov 14, 2015 8:34 pm

I noticed I never really touched the subject of my other faction, well here it goes.
Pocket Universe: A special Universe outside a given Multiverse accessible only to certain members of a hyper-advanced society -Union Science Definition

The Requiem, basic info:
While its history is forever skewed and much has been forgotten, one pocket-universe remains with a testament to The Requiem's former history. From OL-781's many records dating back to his childhood in 2001 (another time, another reality), modern day scientists can speculate that the Requiem never existed in this Multi-verse's timeline. Ancient archives tell of a time many quadrillions of years ago in another reality, one where humanity had achieved god-like omnipotence. However, due to an unknown anomaly, The Requiem vanished, with little trace it ever existed. Answers to this may be found in The Ark, a colossal incomprehensibly large
construct that spans an entire galaxy in size. The Ark was found in OL-781's pocket universe, and it baffled researchers. No one could see how a construct that large was ever built, but then again, the entire pocket universe represents a closed impenetrable super-fortress. This brings up how scientists found the place, which is actually quite interesting. While traversing the trans-universal void back in the day, a science vessel was pulled to an unknown source. What then happened was unexplainable at the time: A hyper-intelligent Artificial Intelligence revealed itself; claiming to be the maintainer of a pocket universe, it would allow the scientists access because they knew OL-781. The scientists chose to believe this (they had no idea who OL-781 was, but went with it) and after entry into said universe, nearly died of shock. The Requiem's technology, was impossibly advanced: It is like comparing a black hole generator to a hand gun (Requiem vs Union), time-space tearer to a wooden spear(Requiem vs The Empire), and A mass-universe generator to a rock (any place lacking space travel in comparison).

The Requiem's tech ranged from massed time-space manipulation to creating universes for entertainment, stuff that would cause even the best Union scientist to reel in disbelief. It was even revealed that the Union's home universe was just a programming error. Currently, the AI in charge of the pocket universe is giving Union researchers seemingly random pieces of tech; while this annoys researchers, the AI itself certainly is getting some form of entertainment from this (isn't new, it liked to screw with OL-781's plans sometimes). If you ever find this pocket universe and enter it, try taking some tech (you probably wouldn't understand it even a bit though, all of it seems to defy logic of any sort), said tech would turn tides to your favor (both literally and figuratively).

If you ever meet OL-781, tell the AI, and you might get rewarded! (OL-781 will be very easy to find if you are in the right place).
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Postby Aterrian Union » Sat Nov 14, 2015 8:56 pm

Naval Monte wrote:So since we have a discussion on FT ships anyone wants to make a second chain about magic?

In the Union, said magic "doesn't exist" (blatant lies). Such is considered illegal and unscientific, which means it is TREASON; always punished by death (we dissect you later of course, in order to understand the SCIENTIFIC parts of this "magic").
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WE DON'T USE NS STATS!!
Tier 0, Type X Civilization.
☭☭ CNN Daily News ☭☭: Production in Sector #49028 is 900% too high this quarter.
Apparently, some people think this:
Novsvacro wrote:The above nation is a pseudo-fascist dictatorship with an emphasis on collective identity and the supreme authority of the collective will, manifest in the State.
However, we tolerate most ideologies, and you are free to do what you like!

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