Veterans Day Discussion

[Ashmoria]

no its not. what are you in danger of forgetting?

I've literally just said fucking hell
When I said jesus christ I said that in a snide way because of the fact you really don't know wtf lest we forget means, I'm condescending it's like basic knowledge.

so you cant even express what "lest we forget" is supposed to mean, what you are in danger of forgetting?

[Vashtanaraada]

The dangers of forgetting is that forgetting allows men who belittle those who have the strength and honor to sacrifice themselves for the rights of others to erase the hundreds of thousands who have died in the pursuit of freedom throughout the ages and throughout the world. Also, ignorance breed complacency, and complacency breeds tyranny.

so you are in danger of forgetting that ww1 ever happened?

I'm sure there's a couple of dickheads in the country that don't even know what or when WW1 was mate, be a bit intuitive here.

[Ashmoria]

so you are in danger of forgetting that ww1 ever happened?

I'm sure there's a couple of dickheads in the country that don't even know what or when WW1 was mate, be a bit intuitive here.

are you saying that that IS what you are in danger of forgetting?

[Vashtanaraada]

I've literally just said fucking hell
When I said jesus christ I said that in a snide way because of the fact you really don't know wtf lest we forget means, I'm condescending it's like basic knowledge.

so you cant even express what "lest we forget" is supposed to mean, what you are in danger of forgetting?

I've tried to in the only way I can and it isn't my fault you can't gather it.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

that is something well worth remembering.

It is so we don't repeat the mistake.
Did you actually read half of the posts on this thread or do you pick and choose and have a lucky dip with your replies?

Oh, I don't know. The reasons for remembering something can vary from person to person. From not repeating history to the personal like a family member who served in a conflict to some sense of patriotism...

[Vashtanaraada]

I'm sure there's a couple of dickheads in the country that don't even know what or when WW1 was mate, be a bit intuitive here.

are you saying that that IS what you are in danger of forgetting?

[Ethel mermania]

It has nothing to do with remembering anything. It's just so people can feel better about themselves.

2edgy4me.

[Ifreann]

It has nothing to do with remembering anything. It's just so people can feel better about themselves.

That mostly isn't the case in the UK, although the poppy being turned into a sort of fashion accessory is frighteningly bad.

That picture of Cameron with a poppy badly edited onto it is one of the funniest things ever.

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That WWI was an enormous waste of human life.

that is something well worth remembering.

Quite. Which is why I think we'd do well to have a bit less of "You owe everything to these glorious heroes!" and a bit more of "War is really shitty, let's try to avoid it in future."

[Ashmoria]

so you cant even express what "lest we forget" is supposed to mean, what you are in danger of forgetting?

I've tried to in the only way I can and it isn't my fault you can't gather it.

you are leading me to think that you have no idea what it means or what you might forget.

[Vashtanaraada]

It is so we don't repeat the mistake.
Did you actually read half of the posts on this thread or do you pick and choose and have a lucky dip with your replies?

Oh, I don't know. The reasons for remembering something can vary from person to person. From not repeating history to the personal like a family member who served in a conflict to some sense of patriotism...

This

[Vashtanaraada]

That mostly isn't the case in the UK, although the poppy being turned into a sort of fashion accessory is frighteningly bad.

That picture of Cameron with a poppy badly edited onto it is one of the funniest things ever.

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I can't wait to vote the cunt out of office.

[Alvecia]

I've tried to in the only way I can and it isn't my fault you can't gather it.

you are leading me to think that you have no idea what it means or what you might forget.

I think you're being a little bit deliberately obtuse here. Why don't you state the entirety of your point and we can respond in kind.

[Ashmoria]

you are leading me to think that you have no idea what it means or what you might forget.

I think you're being a little bit deliberately obtuse here. Why don't you state the entirety of your point and we can respond in kind.

I only have a question

he said "lest we forget" which is a common thing to say when discussing armistice day (as an American I am only concerned about veteran's day). so I asked just what it was that he is in danger of forgetting.

either he (or you) can answer that question or you cant. so far he hasn't.

[Vashtanaraada]

I've tried to in the only way I can and it isn't my fault you can't gather it.

you are leading me to think that you have no idea what it means or what you might forget.

"Lest We Forget" = We must not forget the brave sacrifice of our forefathers in all of the wars the UK has been involved in since the First World War. We wear a poppy of red or white or both to commemorate this and make sure that that sacrifice and suffering is never lost out of the public memory, and so history cannot repeat itself.

If you don't comprehend it no I'm giving up and moving thread.

[Ashmoria]

you are leading me to think that you have no idea what it means or what you might forget.

"Lest We Forget" = We must not forget the brave sacrifice of our forefathers in all of the wars the UK has been involved in since the First World War. We wear a poppy of red or white or both to commemorate this and make sure that that sacrifice and suffering is never lost out of the public memory, and so history cannot repeat itself.

If you don't comprehend it no I'm giving up and moving thread.

why only since ww1? do the ones before not count?

[Vashtanaraada]

I think you're being a little bit deliberately obtuse here. Why don't you state the entirety of your point and we can respond in kind.

(as an American I am only concerned about veteran's day)

Now that is disrespectful.

[Ashmoria]

(as an American I am only concerned about veteran's day)

Now that is disrespectful.

*shrug*

[Vashtanaraada]

"Lest We Forget" = We must not forget the brave sacrifice of our forefathers in all of the wars the UK has been involved in since the First World War. We wear a poppy of red or white or both to commemorate this and make sure that that sacrifice and suffering is never lost out of the public memory, and so history cannot repeat itself.

If you don't comprehend it no I'm giving up and moving thread.

why only since ww1? do the ones before not count?

The poppy wasn't created until like 1918.
Of course we had remembrances etc, but they weren't as widespread (because the conflicts weren't as large and widespread) as after WW1.

[United States of McDonalds]

december 7th 1941 best day of my life

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

(as an American I am only concerned about veteran's day)

Now that is disrespectful.

I don't think it is. I can understand that people from all over the world remember their fallen in some way, but it is not disrespectful to only be concerned with the conflicts that directly involved your nation and not others. She's not dismissing these, she's just focusing on specifics. We all do that.

[Vashtanaraada]

Now that is disrespectful.

*shrug*

*middle finger*

[Ashmoria]

why only since ww1? do the ones before not count?

The poppy wasn't created until like 1918.
Of course we had remembrances etc, but they weren't as widespread (because the conflicts weren't as large and widespread) as after WW1.

doesn't it seem like ww2 belies the idea of not forgetting the sacrifice of ww1?

[Vashtanaraada]

Now that is disrespectful.

I don't think it is. I can understand that people from all over the world remember their fallen in some way, but it is not disrespectful to only be concerned with the conflicts that directly involved your nation and not others. She's not dismissing these, she's just focusing on specifics. We all do that.

Well I don't ahah.
As I said I do Spanish Civil War Remembrance Day, Remembrance Day, International Women's Day, VE Day and International Workers' Day

[Farnhamia]

*shrug*

*middle finger*

Knock it off, both of you, right now.

[Fordorsia]

It has nothing to do with remembering anything. It's just so people can feel better about themselves.

Yeah, you're right. I have no idea why we do this thing. World War 2? What was that? I just like the flowers /sarc

Yeah because if we stop dedicating a single day each year to standing around and pretending to remember whatever it is you're supposed to be thinking about, WWII will go the way of the Greco-Persian Wars or the Hundred Years' War and be forgotten...oh wait they haven't been forgotten because they're recorded. Funny how writing things down works.

The only thing remembrance day or veterans day is for is acting like you care so you don't get labelled unpatriotic or a soldier hater by idiots, when in fact you really couldn't care less about standing around thinking about whatever you're supposed to think about.


"Oh yeah I love soldiers because...they fight for our freedoms and...uh, we have to respect that and uh war is bad so I'm remembering all the brave heroes who died for our freedoms"

"What exactly are you thinking about during the minute silence?"

"Oh you know, war and stuff and how it's bad and all the brave soldiers who have died in war"

"You're just wondering how long is left of the minute silence, aren't you?"

"Shit"