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Nationalist Eminral Republic
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Postby Nationalist Eminral Republic » Thu Oct 15, 2015 11:37 am

The Republic of Pantalleria wrote:I know right, at the very least if we were to enter the TPP, we have to introduce a special Filipino clause that stipulates that any foreign company operating within internationally agreed upon Philippine territory as stipulated by International agreed upon laws, are subject to Philippine national laws and that "disputes within Philippines territory means that Philippine law supercedes the agreed upon terms when it comes to trade disputes" that way multibillion dollar companies won't be able to legally sue the Philippine Government and by extention the people in an event of an irregularity of trade, lest of-course estoppel stipulates that the companies do have that right due to acts of, but not limited to: "corruption", "theft" and any other criminal activity that is seen by any reasonable person as unequitable.

Truth be told, I'm suspicious of all trade agreements entered by the Philippines. Surely there's a way for us to compete without compromising our country's interests, right?

Korhal IVV wrote:Either Miriam or Poe.

Nope. Duterte, Miriam or nothing. Poe will be PNoy 2.0 and 45% or so less competent.

Ormenea wrote:I was born in the Philippines. :) Exactly 15 years and 4 months in living. I'm from the Northern Luzon. (Baguio City, Cordillera Administrative Region) :unsure:

Welcome to the thread! Feel free to drop by anytime and join the discussion.
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Postby Nationalist Eminral Republic » Thu Oct 15, 2015 11:51 am

Quirina wrote:
Open the economy back to the world market, lessen or remove tariffs, impose anti-trust laws, improve the best industrial complex (rice) around,

Sure
make educational system optional and not socialistically "free" for all and at least teach people how to read and write

Completely disagree with this.

reduce taxes to simple systems (because admit it, taxes reduces probability of higher standard of living)

I support tax reforms like abolishing sales tax and make maximum of PHP 250 000 annual income tax free.

, have government lessen overall management of economy (Laissez-faire)

A healthy capitalism can only exist with strong government regulations, lest we'll end up like US where smaller players are finding it hard to compete. (ex: cable and airlines industries)
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Postby Stormwrath » Thu Oct 15, 2015 8:19 pm

Asigna wrote:Philippines elections updates:

-Lucifer and intergalactic space ambassador runs for President.

Seriously.

This is no longer politics, this is the carnival.


YESSS YESSS

SOON PHILIPPINES WILL BE A VASSAL OF GLORIOUS INTERGALACTIC EMPIRE OF STORMWRATH!!!

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA

Just kidding.

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Postby Nationalist Eminral Republic » Thu Oct 15, 2015 9:15 pm

Stormwrath wrote:
Asigna wrote:Philippines elections updates:

-Lucifer and intergalactic space ambassador runs for President.

Seriously.

This is no longer politics, this is the carnival.


YESSS YESSS

SOON PHILIPPINES WILL BE A VASSAL OF GLORIOUS INTERGALACTIC EMPIRE OF STORMWRATH!!!

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA

Just kidding.

Democracy: You either give it or you don't. It's either a right or a privilege. Besides, if you vote for shitty politicians then you are a nuisance voter and a bigger joke than any of these people.
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Postby Nationalist Eminral Republic » Thu Oct 15, 2015 10:47 pm

Just in: Inday Sara Duterte will file her CoC as the Mayor for Davao City. Her brother, Paolo Duterte, earlier filed CoC for Vice Mayor of Davao City. Both of them will run under Hugpong sa Tawong Lungsod, a local political party founded by the elder Duterte.

It's the final countdown! #DuterteSerye
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Postby The Republic of Pantalleria » Fri Oct 16, 2015 12:16 am

Nationalist Eminral Republic wrote:
The Republic of Pantalleria wrote:I know right, at the very least if we were to enter the TPP, we have to introduce a special Filipino clause that stipulates that any foreign company operating within internationally agreed upon Philippine territory as stipulated by International agreed upon laws, are subject to Philippine national laws and that "disputes within Philippines territory means that Philippine law supercedes the agreed upon terms when it comes to trade disputes" that way multibillion dollar companies won't be able to legally sue the Philippine Government and by extention the people in an event of an irregularity of trade, lest of-course estoppel stipulates that the companies do have that right due to acts of, but not limited to: "corruption", "theft" and any other criminal activity that is seen by any reasonable person as unequitable.

Truth be told, I'm suspicious of all trade agreements entered by the Philippines. Surely there's a way for us to compete without compromising our country's interests, right?

Korhal IVV wrote:Either Miriam or Poe.

Nope. Duterte, Miriam or nothing. Poe will be PNoy 2.0 and 45% or so less competent.

Ormenea wrote:I was born in the Philippines. :) Exactly 15 years and 4 months in living. I'm from the Northern Luzon. (Baguio City, Cordillera Administrative Region) :unsure:

Welcome to the thread! Feel free to drop by anytime and join the discussion.

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Postby Victoriala » Fri Oct 16, 2015 3:44 am

Stormwrath wrote:
Asigna wrote:Philippines elections updates:

-Lucifer and intergalactic space ambassador runs for President.

Seriously.

This is no longer politics, this is the carnival.


YESSS YESSS

SOON PHILIPPINES WILL BE A VASSAL OF GLORIOUS INTERGALACTIC EMPIRE OF STORMWRATH!!!

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA

Just kidding.

not if I get here first

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Postby Asigna » Fri Oct 16, 2015 5:27 am

Nationalist Eminral Republic wrote:
Stormwrath wrote:
YESSS YESSS

SOON PHILIPPINES WILL BE A VASSAL OF GLORIOUS INTERGALACTIC EMPIRE OF STORMWRATH!!!

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA

Just kidding.

Democracy: You either give it or you don't. It's either a right or a privilege. Besides, if you vote for shitty politicians then you are a nuisance voter and a bigger joke than any of these people.


True. The ultimate enemy of the Filipino people will be itself. We oppress ourselves.

Victoriala wrote:
Stormwrath wrote:
YESSS YESSS

SOON PHILIPPINES WILL BE A VASSAL OF GLORIOUS INTERGALACTIC EMPIRE OF STORMWRATH!!!

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA

Just kidding.

not if I get here first

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Not if the future national progressivist party of the Philippines sees victory. :p
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Postby Quirina » Fri Oct 16, 2015 5:56 am

Asigna wrote:Not if the future national progressivist party of the Philippines sees victory. :p

Unless there's economic platforms there, stop bringing it up. Other than that, please stop mixing OOC with IC.
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Postby Asigna » Fri Oct 16, 2015 6:18 am

Quirina wrote:
Asigna wrote:Not if the future national progressivist party of the Philippines sees victory. :p

Unless there's economic platforms there, stop bringing it up. Other than that, please stop mixing OOC with IC.


I told you, it's laissez faire capitalism!

But Natpro does not focus on change in the materialistic sphere, it focuses on non materialistic change such as LGBT rights, gender equality and coexistence between members of community such as religions and ethnic groups.

This then creates a society where its members don't focus on berating each other on their differences rather, on focusing on more pressing problems in society such as poverty, income inequality, human trafficking, global warming and others.
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Postby Vedria » Fri Oct 16, 2015 6:22 am

Hello, fellow countrymen

Damn, that was too formal, but hey!

What do you guys think about the upcoming typhoon?
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Postby Quirina » Fri Oct 16, 2015 6:26 am

Asigna wrote:
Quirina wrote:Unless there's economic platforms there, stop bringing it up. Other than that, please stop mixing OOC with IC.


I told you, it's laissez faire capitalism!

But Natpro does not focus on change in the materialistic sphere, it focuses on non materialistic change such as LGBT rights, gender equality and coexistence between members of community such as religions and ethnic groups.

This then creates a society where its members don't focus on berating each other on their differences rather, on focusing on more pressing problems in society such as poverty, income inequality, human trafficking, global warming and others.

By laissez-faire capitalism, you let the people do what they want, either leave them oppressing their markets or give them better lives. This is why oppression under capitalism gets its impression from. And how can you be so sure that this system will even work? What exemplary country do you see as a national progressivist in economics, policy and implementation?

There are good things where things are written in paper, but there are also things that are too good to be written in paper alone.
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Postby Bodhicruize » Fri Oct 16, 2015 6:27 am

Vedria wrote:Hello, fellow countrymen

Damn, that was too formal, but hey!

What do you guys think about the upcoming typhoon?


It better rain hard in Luzon. That way the fast depleting Angat dam will be replenished.

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Postby Quirina » Fri Oct 16, 2015 6:32 am

Bodhicruize wrote:
Vedria wrote:Hello, fellow countrymen

Damn, that was too formal, but hey!

What do you guys think about the upcoming typhoon?


It better rain hard in Luzon. That way the fast depleting Angat dam will be replenished.

It was actually raining with an orange golden sky.
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Postby Vedria » Fri Oct 16, 2015 6:39 am

Bodhicruize wrote:
Vedria wrote:Hello, fellow countrymen

Damn, that was too formal, but hey!

What do you guys think about the upcoming typhoon?


It better rain hard in Luzon. That way the fast depleting Angat dam will be replenished.


Ayyt. Our exams were suspended because of the storm :D

Although I'm a tad worried since i live down in Laguna, which is pretty damn far from Isabella
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Postby Asigna » Fri Oct 16, 2015 6:47 am

Quirina wrote:
Asigna wrote:
I told you, it's laissez faire capitalism!

But Natpro does not focus on change in the materialistic sphere, it focuses on non materialistic change such as LGBT rights, gender equality and coexistence between members of community such as religions and ethnic groups.

This then creates a society where its members don't focus on berating each other on their differences rather, on focusing on more pressing problems in society such as poverty, income inequality, human trafficking, global warming and others.

By laissez-faire capitalism, you let the people do what they want, either leave them oppressing their markets or give them better lives. This is why oppression under capitalism gets its impression from. And how can you be so sure that this system will even work? What exemplary country do you see as a national progressivist in economics, policy and implementation?

There are good things where things are written in paper, but there are also things that are too good to be written in paper alone.


In the 1960s, they said that to the civil rights movement.

I'm not into supporting the negative connotations of certain concepts, bad rather, embracing the real meaning of the concepts i am putting forward to you. Which means if i mean i support the Laissez faire that is a policy or attitude of letting things take their own course, without interfering. Then i support that and only that. But not only in economics, but also in education (as you have said, standardization of college education is oppressive to the student), personal lives and others. Such things, freedoms, are imperative for a person to be utterly comfortable with his/her life conditions and to uphold this necessity of freedom, we would need to protect them with rights. Freedoms should only be sanctioned when it complements the existence of another person rather than condemns it.
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Postby Bodhicruize » Fri Oct 16, 2015 6:54 am

Quirina wrote:
Bodhicruize wrote:
It better rain hard in Luzon. That way the fast depleting Angat dam will be replenished.

It was actually raining with an orange golden sky.


I imagine that'll look beautiful.

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Postby Bodhicruize » Fri Oct 16, 2015 6:55 am

Vedria wrote:
Bodhicruize wrote:
It better rain hard in Luzon. That way the fast depleting Angat dam will be replenished.


Ayyt. Our exams were suspended because of the storm :D

Although I'm a tad worried since i live down in Laguna, which is pretty damn far from Isabella


Lol. Then you'd have extra time to study.

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Postby Asigna » Fri Oct 16, 2015 6:55 am

Bodhicruize wrote:
Quirina wrote:It was actually raining with an orange golden sky.


I imagine that'll look beautiful.


But that also signals borderline pollution. :p
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Postby Bodhicruize » Fri Oct 16, 2015 7:02 am

Asigna wrote:
Bodhicruize wrote:
I imagine that'll look beautiful.


But that also signals borderline pollution. :p


:lol2:

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Postby New Aeyariss » Fri Oct 16, 2015 8:24 am

Asigna wrote:
Quirina wrote:By laissez-faire capitalism, you let the people do what they want, either leave them oppressing their markets or give them better lives. This is why oppression under capitalism gets its impression from. And how can you be so sure that this system will even work? What exemplary country do you see as a national progressivist in economics, policy and implementation?

There are good things where things are written in paper, but there are also things that are too good to be written in paper alone.


In the 1960s, they said that to the civil rights movement.

I'm not into supporting the negative connotations of certain concepts, bad rather, embracing the real meaning of the concepts i am putting forward to you. Which means if i mean i support the Laissez faire that is a policy or attitude of letting things take their own course, without interfering. Then i support that and only that. But not only in economics, but also in education (as you have said, standardization of college education is oppressive to the student), personal lives and others. Such things, freedoms, are imperative for a person to be utterly comfortable with his/her life conditions and to uphold this necessity of freedom, we would need to protect them with rights. Freedoms should only be sanctioned when it complements the existence of another person rather than condemns it.


Let me ask you just one thing: What is your position on:

1) Private property, application of rents of land to private purposes?

2) Progressive income tax?

3) Inheritance?

4) Confiscation of property of rebels, conservatives etc?

5) Central banks?

6) State owned communication?

7) Cultivation of waste lands by state administration?

8) Equal pay?

9) Combination of agriculture and industry, equal population allocation?

10) Free education in Public schools?
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Postby Asigna » Fri Oct 16, 2015 8:42 am

New Aeyariss wrote:
Asigna wrote:
In the 1960s, they said that to the civil rights movement.

I'm not into supporting the negative connotations of certain concepts, bad rather, embracing the real meaning of the concepts i am putting forward to you. Which means if i mean i support the Laissez faire that is a policy or attitude of letting things take their own course, without interfering. Then i support that and only that. But not only in economics, but also in education (as you have said, standardization of college education is oppressive to the student), personal lives and others. Such things, freedoms, are imperative for a person to be utterly comfortable with his/her life conditions and to uphold this necessity of freedom, we would need to protect them with rights. Freedoms should only be sanctioned when it complements the existence of another person rather than condemns it.


Let me ask you just one thing: What is your position on:

1) Private property, application of rents of land to private purposes?

2) Progressive income tax?

3) Inheritance?

4) Confiscation of property of rebels, conservatives etc?

5) Central banks?

6) State owned communication?

7) Cultivation of waste lands by state administration?

8) Equal pay?

9) Combination of agriculture and industry, equal population allocation?

10) Free education in Public schools?


1) Private property, application of rents of land to private purposes? - Private property is a right.

2) Progressive income tax? - Discouraged. Flat tax should teach a lesson to the population that in order to escape the terror of taxes, they have to work hard and enrich themselves.

3) Inheritance? - History should be taken into consideration. If the "inheritance" was born out of theft, colonial factors such as the Spanish stealing native land to bless the locals with hasciendas, that should be heavily discouraged and fixed through land reform. Certain exceptions include when the current tenants of the land are able to use it in the most productive means then they should not only be left alone, but also praised for their work, but to those who use them for nothing but meaningless mansions and excesses, these should be corrected by stripping them off these lands and using them for more productive ventures that would be more beneficial to the economy.

4) Confiscation of property of rebels, conservatives etc? - Definitely not.

5) Central banks? - I am neutral. But if this means there should be only one bank, i discourage this. Plurality of financial institutions ensures diversification of an economy. It depends on the size of the nation though. I don't know much about the current workings of the financial institutions of our time so i have yet to form a solid opinion on the matter.

6) State owned communication? - Telecommunication should be privatized, state owned means that there is no competition since the state monopolizes everything who can it compete against? I favor privatization but also measures should be taken to ensure there are a lot of players in the industry rather than just a few.

7) Cultivation of waste lands by state administration? - Sure. From my understanding, it means making wastelands fertile.

8) Equal pay? - Definitely unfair if the lazy worker and the hardworking get equal payments. Certain managerial instruments have to be created to see which person is doing better and which person is the least productive of all. This is to root out the inefficient members of society in the working space, i favor meritocracy.

9) Combination of agriculture and industry, equal population allocation? - Crazy idea.

10) Free education in Public schools? - A good thing. This will allow those who have no access to private schools opportunity to have education.
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Postby Aelex » Fri Oct 16, 2015 2:59 pm

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I dunno where you saw that or who told you that but, nope, you don't do "la Bise" to other men neither you hug them. If you actually try, you'll most likely be more or less gently be brushed away, or just be stared at awkwardly.
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Postby Baldapehlva » Fri Oct 16, 2015 3:50 pm

Asigna wrote:Philippines elections updates:

-Lucifer and intergalactic space ambassador runs for President.

Seriously.

This is no longer politics, this is the carnival.

M'asigna, I feel so much as to resent my Philippine citizenship. Hey, what if a 4-year old ran for president? Not true, but now, the race looks like a loonybin. You don't want Duterte in a loonybin, do you? And Miriam has a brain, so she can navigate in the loonybin.
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Postby The Republic of Pantalleria » Fri Oct 16, 2015 3:51 pm

Vedria wrote:Hello, fellow countrymen

Damn, that was too formal, but hey!

What do you guys think about the upcoming typhoon?

We shouldn't really care (not unless it's bigger than a signal 2).
The Pantallerian Economy and Other Details

The Pantallerian Bureau of Tourism: Treading on maggots since we got our magnificent go go boots.

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