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Postby Redsection » Mon Oct 05, 2015 10:00 pm

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It's almost as bad as those parties where men sperm into a bowl and the woman collects it with a turkey baster before self impregnating herself.


What's bad about that?


please dont,I am eating ice cream. Until then hold on.
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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Mon Oct 05, 2015 10:01 pm

I hate to be that guy, but we're kind of getting off track again.
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Postby Valystria » Mon Oct 05, 2015 10:05 pm

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The Nuclear Fist wrote:I can't help but think we're getting a bit off topic, maybe we should steer it back to feminism.

Men are literally the devil. Holding doors for wymyn is rape. The only way wymyn will ever truly be free is if we kill all men and reproduce with synthetic sperm.


It would have been more convincing if you said "males" instead of "men".

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Postby USS Monitor » Mon Oct 05, 2015 10:05 pm

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Wallenburg wrote:...

We could completely eradicate cancer and other genetic diseases. Make ourselves stronger, faster, tougher, smarter. Extend our lifespan. Eliminate the negative affects of aging. And numerous other potential benefits. What's not to love?


I'm still trying to figure out why you need genes in the first place... :blink:
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Postby USS Monitor » Mon Oct 05, 2015 10:07 pm

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Olthar wrote:Men are literally the devil. Holding doors for wymyn is rape. The only way wymyn will ever truly be free is if we kill all men and reproduce with synthetic sperm.


It would have been more convincing if you said "males" instead of "men".


Does anyone besides Chessmistress do that?
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Postby Wallenburg » Mon Oct 05, 2015 10:07 pm

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Olthar wrote:We could completely eradicate cancer and other genetic diseases. Make ourselves stronger, faster, tougher, smarter. Extend our lifespan. Eliminate the negative affects of aging. And numerous other potential benefits. What's not to love?

I'm still trying to figure out why you need genes in the first place... :blink:

Or cells for that matter. Just upload us all to the Matrix. Then we can change our virtual sex whenever we want!
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Postby Olthar » Mon Oct 05, 2015 10:09 pm

Valystria wrote:
Olthar wrote:Men are literally the devil. Holding doors for wymyn is rape. The only way wymyn will ever truly be free is if we kill all men and reproduce with synthetic sperm.


It would have been more convincing if you said "males" instead of "men".

Damn! I knew I did something wrong! :(
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Postby Valystria » Mon Oct 05, 2015 10:10 pm

USS Monitor wrote:
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It would have been more convincing if you said "males" instead of "men".


Does anyone besides Chessmistress do that?


Yes. It's seemingly the norm among radical feminists.
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Postby USS Monitor » Mon Oct 05, 2015 10:12 pm

Wallenburg wrote:
USS Monitor wrote:I'm still trying to figure out why you need genes in the first place... :blink:

Or cells for that matter. Just upload us all to the Matrix. Then we can change our virtual sex whenever we want!


I don't want to be uploaded anywhere. What if the Matrix has a hard-drive failure?

I suppose I do technically have genes and cells, now that I think about it...
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Postby Wallenburg » Mon Oct 05, 2015 10:13 pm

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Wallenburg wrote:Or cells for that matter. Just upload us all to the Matrix. Then we can change our virtual sex whenever we want!

I don't want to be uploaded anywhere. What if the Matrix has a hard-drive failure?
I suppose I do technically have genes and cells, now that I think about it...

Let's be candid though, M, you can't survive without seamen.
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Postby USS Monitor » Mon Oct 05, 2015 10:16 pm

Wallenburg wrote:
USS Monitor wrote:I don't want to be uploaded anywhere. What if the Matrix has a hard-drive failure?
I suppose I do technically have genes and cells, now that I think about it...

Let's be candid though, M, you can't survive without seamen.


Never was alive to begin with. Being alive is overrated. People are better when they're alive, though. I miss my crew.
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Postby Wallenburg » Mon Oct 05, 2015 10:19 pm

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Wallenburg wrote:Let's be candid though, M, you can't survive without seamen.

Never was alive to begin with. Being alive is overrated. People are better when they're alive, though. I miss my crew.

Never said you were alive. Just that you survive due to the abundance of seamen across your deck, as demonstrated in your flag.
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Postby Ashkera » Mon Oct 05, 2015 10:20 pm

Olthar wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:...

We could completely eradicate cancer and other genetic diseases. Make ourselves stronger, faster, tougher, smarter. Extend our lifespan. Eliminate the negative affects of aging. And numerous other potential benefits. What's not to love?


When it comes down to it, tech is what it will take to truly move past many of these issues. Once you've got cybernetic eye implants combined with wireless access, for instance, reporting crime is a snap. Once people can get new bodies and experiment with sex cheaply enough, anyone could have started as any sex, so there's no way to know who to discriminate against. Complaints about looks fading become irrelevant, along with all the angst that goes with it. Etc, etc.
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Postby Dalcaria » Mon Oct 05, 2015 10:38 pm

Just gonna leave this here.... http://globalnews.ca/news/2260547/police-search-for-woman-after-possible-child-luring-attempt-in-east-vancouver/

See, I have no idea if any grown men have been raped by grown women. I'm assuming it has happened, but for the sake of argument, let's say it hasn't. You hear an awful lot of stories of underage guys being targeted by older women. Looks like men and women have more in common than I thought! Both male and female rapists go for vulnerable victims!
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Postby Dalcaria » Mon Oct 05, 2015 10:41 pm

Ashkera wrote:
Olthar wrote:We could completely eradicate cancer and other genetic diseases. Make ourselves stronger, faster, tougher, smarter. Extend our lifespan. Eliminate the negative affects of aging. And numerous other potential benefits. What's not to love?


When it comes down to it, tech is what it will take to truly move past many of these issues. Once you've got cybernetic eye implants combined with wireless access, for instance, reporting crime is a snap. Once people can get new bodies and experiment with sex cheaply enough, anyone could have started as any sex, so there's no way to know who to discriminate against. Complaints about looks fading become irrelevant, along with all the angst that goes with it. Etc, etc.

Well that sucks for those of us who aren't sexually attracted to trans folks. And that's hardly discrimination, it's sexual preference. There are a great number of men and women who find trans folk very sexually appealing. I do not personally, so I would prefer not to have a sexual relationship with them.
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Postby Gauthier » Mon Oct 05, 2015 10:57 pm

Redsection wrote:why can't things be like this.



Oh look. Someone trying to score Fedora Points by posting in a feminism thread that women should stay in the kitchen making sammiches, babies and blowjobs.
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Postby Olthar » Mon Oct 05, 2015 11:01 pm

Gauthier wrote:
Redsection wrote:why can't things be like this.



Oh look. Someone trying to score Fedora Points by posting in a feminism thread that women should stay in the kitchen making sammiches, babies and blowjobs.

That's stupid. Having sex in the kitchen is unsanitary, especially with all that food sitting out. What happens when you're pounding it on the counter and knock over the jar of jelly? It'll spill everywhere, and you'll get jelly in your snatch.
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Postby The Grim Reaper » Mon Oct 05, 2015 11:02 pm

Redsection wrote:why can't things be like this.



because your children are not worthy
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Postby Ashkera » Mon Oct 05, 2015 11:03 pm

Dalcaria wrote:Well that sucks for those of us who aren't sexually attracted to trans folks. And that's hardly discrimination, it's sexual preference. There are a great number of men and women who find trans folk very sexually appealing. I do not personally, so I would prefer not to have a sexual relationship with them.


TBH, by that point, I think a lot fewer people would care. I mean, if you could have a full replacement body, using a brain transplant, who would know? All of the equipment would be in the right place and in the right condition, and all of the secondary sexual characteristics would be just right, too. If the issue is personality, then just date by personality. If the issue is loss-of-face, well, no one will know, and that's a stupid thing to lose face over so society should change.

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Postby Olthar » Mon Oct 05, 2015 11:06 pm

Ashkera wrote:
Dalcaria wrote:Well that sucks for those of us who aren't sexually attracted to trans folks. And that's hardly discrimination, it's sexual preference. There are a great number of men and women who find trans folk very sexually appealing. I do not personally, so I would prefer not to have a sexual relationship with them.


TBH, by that point, I think a lot fewer people would care. I mean, if you could have a full replacement body, using a brain transplant, who would know? All of the equipment would be in the right place and in the right condition, and all of the secondary sexual characteristics would be just right, too. If the issue is personality, then just date by personality. If the issue is loss-of-face, well, no one will know, and that's a stupid thing to lose face over so society should change.

Gauthier wrote:Oh look. Someone trying to score Fedora Points by posting in a feminism thread that women should stay in the kitchen making sammiches, babies and blowjobs.


How many Fedora Points™ do I need to upgrade from a Trilby?

I think you mean upgrade to a trilby. 8)
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Postby Dalcaria » Mon Oct 05, 2015 11:09 pm

Ashkera wrote:
Dalcaria wrote:Well that sucks for those of us who aren't sexually attracted to trans folks. And that's hardly discrimination, it's sexual preference. There are a great number of men and women who find trans folk very sexually appealing. I do not personally, so I would prefer not to have a sexual relationship with them.


TBH, by that point, I think a lot fewer people would care. I mean, if you could have a full replacement body, using a brain transplant, who would know? All of the equipment would be in the right place and in the right condition, and all of the secondary sexual characteristics would be just right, too. If the issue is personality, then just date by personality. If the issue is loss-of-face, well, no one will know, and that's a stupid thing to lose face over so society should change.

It's not just genes to me, it's the history of a person. What someone was before may change, but it is still very much relevant to me and my perception of them, and personally, I am not sexually inclined to such a person. It's not about telling the difference, it's about someone's individual sexual preference. I'm not against people doing this, let them do it as much as they like. But please don't expect me to be more sexually attracted to someone for it. And I disagree personally, I think a lot of people would still care, not just men, but women too, and perhaps even some trans folks as well.
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Postby Dalcaria » Mon Oct 05, 2015 11:11 pm

Olthar wrote:
Ashkera wrote:
TBH, by that point, I think a lot fewer people would care. I mean, if you could have a full replacement body, using a brain transplant, who would know? All of the equipment would be in the right place and in the right condition, and all of the secondary sexual characteristics would be just right, too. If the issue is personality, then just date by personality. If the issue is loss-of-face, well, no one will know, and that's a stupid thing to lose face over so society should change.



How many Fedora Points™ do I need to upgrade from a Trilby?

I think you mean upgrade to a trilby. 8)

Dunno about the rest of you, but I'll stick to a bowler.

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Postby Olthar » Mon Oct 05, 2015 11:12 pm

Dalcaria wrote:
Ashkera wrote:
TBH, by that point, I think a lot fewer people would care. I mean, if you could have a full replacement body, using a brain transplant, who would know? All of the equipment would be in the right place and in the right condition, and all of the secondary sexual characteristics would be just right, too. If the issue is personality, then just date by personality. If the issue is loss-of-face, well, no one will know, and that's a stupid thing to lose face over so society should change.

It's not just genes to me, it's the history of a person. What someone was before may change, but it is still very much relevant to me and my perception of them, and personally, I am not sexually inclined to such a person. It's not about telling the difference, it's about someone's individual sexual preference. I'm not against people doing this, let them do it as much as they like. But please don't expect me to be more sexually attracted to someone for it. And I disagree personally, I think a lot of people would still care, not just men, but women too, and perhaps even some trans folks as well.

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Postby Dalcaria » Mon Oct 05, 2015 11:17 pm

Olthar wrote:
Dalcaria wrote:It's not just genes to me, it's the history of a person. What someone was before may change, but it is still very much relevant to me and my perception of them, and personally, I am not sexually inclined to such a person. It's not about telling the difference, it's about someone's individual sexual preference. I'm not against people doing this, let them do it as much as they like. But please don't expect me to be more sexually attracted to someone for it. And I disagree personally, I think a lot of people would still care, not just men, but women too, and perhaps even some trans folks as well.

What someone was before they met you is absolutely none of your business.

Great, then my sexual preferences are none of theirs either and we'll get along just fine in a strictly platonic relationship.
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Postby Chestaan » Tue Oct 06, 2015 12:03 am

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015 ... d-sentence

Hey everyone, someone posted this in the MRM thread and I think it's relevant here to. How do you guys think that this sort of thing can be stopped and more specifically what can the feminist movement do to counter such horrible things from occurring?
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