Atheist mom loses kids for refusing Christian Counselor

[Forum-Rper]

Not going to fight me you feeble peasant?

I like peace, peace is nice.

Then why are you here if it's not for war?

[USS Monitor]

I am reminded of another case where someone refused to obey a court order, and that was this Kentucky Clerk case. Now if people are going to flame this clerk for not following a court order, but not flame this woman for not following another court order. Then I'm calling all these people out as hypocrites!

Go read the constitution.

[Forum-Rper]

Does anyone know where I can fight people and also half campaign my RP?

[Italian-Australia]

As the grand OP of this thread, I hereby declare this flame-war, if it is a flame-war, to be over and done. Thank you.

No one is flaming, thought the "atheistic scum" comment was probably borderline.

Not that you have thread ownership in any way.

Well there was that case where that person said something about throwing javelins into Christianity. Sounds like a flame to me. Now, if it were me and I were directed to a non-likeminded counsellor. I could understand not wanting to have anything to do with it. But you can't be expected to say "screw the courts" and not expect any backlash. I would have asked for a different counsellor. I have a feeling this case will sort itself out there'll be a massive public outcry of people thumping the constitution (kind of like they're doing now) this woman will be released and after 2 or 3 weeks people will forget about it and go back to their reality TV.

[Socialist Tera]

Another American problem.

[Forum-Rper]

No one is flaming, thought the "atheistic scum" comment was probably borderline.

Not that you have thread ownership in any way.

Well there was that case where that person said something about throwing javelins into Christianity. Sounds like a flame to me. Now, if it were me and I were directed to a non-likeminded counsellor. I could understand not wanting to have anything to do with it. But you can't be expected to say "screw the courts" and not expect any backlash. I have a feeling this case will sort itself out.

I was describing what was happening to Christianity, I wasn't going against it. You should probably realize the difference between describing something and directing it at a party of what I was describing.

[AiliailiA]

What. The. Fuck.

The courts aren't supposed to mandate Christianity. We kind of have a Constitution that should protect us from that.

Actually, I don't see why a court-appointed counsellor can't offer to pray with the person referred to them. That would help some people, quite a large minority if not actually most people, and the counsellor is supposed to be helping.

The client should also be able to say "no thankyou" and that be the end of it.

[Damaged Priseis]

I agree with it. A brush-up on the bible can be good for you.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

I am reminded of another case where someone refused to obey a court order, and that was this Kentucky Clerk case. Now if people are going to flame this clerk for not following a court order, but not flame this woman for not following another court order. Then I'm calling all these people out as hypocrites!

Go read the constitution.

Prepare for accusations of being atheistic scum with appalling double-standards.

[The Alma Mater]

I agree with it. A brush-up on the bible can be good for you.

Would you also agree with a little brush-up on the Koran, the Satanic Bible or the Vedas - if that would have happened to be the religious beliefs of the counsolor ?

[AiliailiA]

I agree with it. A brush-up on the bible can be good for you.

Particularly the bits about what to do to disobedient children.

[Wallenburg]

What. The. Fuck.

The courts aren't supposed to mandate Christianity. We kind of have a Constitution that should protect us from that.

Actually, I don't see why a court-appointed counsellor can't offer to pray with the person referred to them. That would help some people, quite a large minority if not actually most people, and the counsellor is supposed to be helping.

The client should also be able to say "no thankyou" and that be the end of it.

She did say "no thank you", and she was ignored, with the religious counselor going on with the whole Sunday school thing rather than respecting the woman's religious non-identification.

[Wallenburg]

I agree with it. A brush-up on the bible can be good for you.

Unless you aren't Christian.

[Empire of Donner land]

I agree with it. A brush-up on the bible can be good for you.

Maybe, but the person was religious/atheist so it shouldn't be forced on them like that. Remember, her kids were taken away from her until she went with it.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

I agree with it. A brush-up on the bible can be good for you.

You know what's bad, though?

Invading someone's constitutional rights because you feel like forcing your own unverifiable, declining religion on them.

[USS Monitor]

No one is flaming, thought the "atheistic scum" comment was probably borderline.

Not that you have thread ownership in any way.

Well there was that case where that person said something about throwing javelins into Christianity. Sounds like a flame to me. Now, if it were me and I were directed to a non-likeminded counsellor. I could understand not wanting to have anything to do with it. But you can't be expected to say "screw the courts" and not expect any backlash. I have a feeling this case will sort itself out.

If you're being forced to listen to religious shit, you can sue the state for violating your civil rights.

[Italian-Australia]

Go read the constitution.

Prepare for accusations of being atheistic scum with appalling double-standards.

Ok, I have tried to be accommodating and I have recently kept my comments non-partisan, see my post on how it would work now. But you are beating a dead horse in that smug "I'm better than you manner" so stop that, or else we really will have a problem.

[Greed and Death]

Sounds like there is some tax evasion too.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

I agree with it. A brush-up on the bible can be good for you.

Particularly the bits about what to do to disobedient children.

What about when the god dude gives everyone free will when he creates them, while knowing what their choices will be, but then commits genocide on every living being because he didn't like those choices?

Love that part.

[Forum-Rper]

Prepare for accusations of being atheistic scum with appalling double-standards.

Ok, I have tried to be accommodating and I have recently kept my comments non-partisan, see my post on how it would work now. But you are beating a dead horse in that smug "I'm better than you manner" so stop that, or else we really will have a problem.

He isn't beating a horse at all.

[Haldasia]

Already people, we got ourselves another blown up case of everyone's fucking up here. The councilor shouldn't have forced the mother to pray or do other religious things. The mother shouldn't have just stopped going to the meetings. Now that we're talking about it, we're probably going to take a lot longer to resolve this.

[USS Monitor]

What. The. Fuck.

The courts aren't supposed to mandate Christianity. We kind of have a Constitution that should protect us from that.

Actually, I don't see why a court-appointed counsellor can't offer to pray with the person referred to them. That would help some people, quite a large minority if not actually most people, and the counsellor is supposed to be helping.

The client should also be able to say "no thankyou" and that be the end of it.

It wasn't an offer. It was, "Hi, it's prayer time whether you like it or not!"

[The Alma Mater]

Already people, we got ourselves another blown up case of everyone's fucking up here. The councilor shouldn't have forced the mother to pray or do other religious things. The mother shouldn't have just stopped going to the meetings.

What should she have done then ?

[Italian-Australia]

Right, the fucking line has been crossed. This woman disobeyed a court order, she can rot in a cell for all I care. All you have served to do is reinforced the fact that atheists are evil, untrustworthy and unable to change. Fuck atheists and fuck the U.S Constitution. Go ahead and make your disparaging comments about me, because I'm not going to look at them. Australia for life!

[USS Monitor]

Go read the constitution.

Prepare for accusations of being atheistic scum with appalling double-standards.

They will just bounce off my armor, same as Confederate shells.