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Postby Fantrum » Thu Jul 23, 2015 6:59 pm

Fascist Russian Empire wrote:
Fantrum wrote:A little light, Ill accept it right now, but you must go into greater detail with the military.

You did notice his population, right? It's about thirty four percent larger than the population of modern-day France (which has only around sixty six million people). I mean, sure, he apparently has the Benelux and Switzerland under his control, but IRL France only had about thirty seven million people at the time according to the sources I've looked at, and I highly doubt Algeria, the Benelux, Switzerland, and Guyana would have a total of sixty three million people to bring up his population total. I mean, granted, the population I made is a couple million higher than what the actual US population was at the time, but a hundred million people living in France in 1870 (more than the number of people who live there today) is ludicrous.

Would you like to be Co- OP? And no, I hadnt noticed...
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Postby Fantrum » Thu Jul 23, 2015 7:00 pm

Arana wrote:Permission to have a Caribbean and Central American drug producing military junta?

Throw up an app and we'll see
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Arana
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Postby Arana » Thu Jul 23, 2015 7:01 pm

Fantrum wrote:
Fascist Russian Empire wrote:You did notice his population, right? It's about thirty four percent larger than the population of modern-day France (which has only around sixty six million people). I mean, sure, he apparently has the Benelux and Switzerland under his control, but IRL France only had about thirty seven million people at the time according to the sources I've looked at, and I highly doubt Algeria, the Benelux, Switzerland, and Guyana would have a total of sixty three million people to bring up his population total. I mean, granted, the population I made is a couple million higher than what the actual US population was at the time, but a hundred million people living in France in 1870 (more than the number of people who live there today) is ludicrous.

Would you like to be Co- OP? And no, I hadnt noticed...

I noticed that too, but not having an app up, wasn't going to say anything... his history is also really, really small.

Sorry, bowing out now :P

Fantrum wrote:
Arana wrote:Permission to have a Caribbean and Central American drug producing military junta?

Throw up an app and we'll see


Alright, reserving all that area. What is the POD in this? I want to know if it makes sense for this to be an actual powerful nation, and not the collection of largely impoverished, weak, and unstable states it is today.
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Postby Fantrum » Thu Jul 23, 2015 7:07 pm

Arana wrote:
Fantrum wrote:Would you like to be Co- OP? And no, I hadnt noticed...

I noticed that too, but not having an app up, wasn't going to say anything... his history is also really, really small.

Sorry, bowing out now :P

Fantrum wrote:Throw up an app and we'll see


Alright, reserving all that area. What is the POD in this? I want to know if it makes sense for this to be an actual powerful nation, and not the collection of largely impoverished, weak, and unstable states it is today.

I said it to FRE and Ill say it to you, If you can write a convincing history setting your nation up to be what you want it to be, Ill accept it.
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Postby Fascist Russian Empire » Thu Jul 23, 2015 7:08 pm

Fantrum wrote:Would you like to be Co- OP? And no, I hadnt noticed...

I'd be down with that, sure. I have some experience with OPing and Co-OPing, and I'd like to think I'm somewhat decent at noticing and pointing out flaws, so, yeah, I'd be glad to.

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Postby Arana » Thu Jul 23, 2015 7:10 pm

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Arana wrote:I noticed that too, but not having an app up, wasn't going to say anything... his history is also really, really small.

Sorry, bowing out now :P



Alright, reserving all that area. What is the POD in this? I want to know if it makes sense for this to be an actual powerful nation, and not the collection of largely impoverished, weak, and unstable states it is today.

I said it to FRE and Ill say it to you, If you can write a convincing history setting your nation up to be what you want it to be, Ill accept it.

Reserving this then: http://i.imgur.com/BCMyXUo.jpg

:)
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Arana wrote:Fuck you and your raps,
And all your stupid rhyming.
Haiku master race.

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Postby Fantrum » Thu Jul 23, 2015 7:25 pm

Arana wrote:
Fantrum wrote:I said it to FRE and Ill say it to you, If you can write a convincing history setting your nation up to be what you want it to be, Ill accept it.

Reserving this then: http://i.imgur.com/BCMyXUo.jpg

:)

Sounds good.
EDIT: Porto Rico will belong to America, besides that, your reservation is fine
Fascist Russian Empire wrote:
Fantrum wrote:Would you like to be Co- OP? And no, I hadnt noticed...

I'd be down with that, sure. I have some experience with OPing and Co-OPing, and I'd like to think I'm somewhat decent at noticing and pointing out flaws, so, yeah, I'd be glad to.

Awesome.
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Postby Soviet Chernarus » Thu Jul 23, 2015 7:40 pm

Ok, how did France get Sardinia? :eyebrow:

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Postby Fantrum » Thu Jul 23, 2015 7:44 pm

Soviet Chernarus wrote:Ok, how did France get Sardinia? :eyebrow:

He asked for it, you could chalk it up to some sort of land concession and go to war over it.
EDIT: Also, why dont you want Rome?
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Postby Arana » Thu Jul 23, 2015 7:46 pm

Fantrum wrote:
Soviet Chernarus wrote:Ok, how did France get Sardinia? :eyebrow:

He asked for it, you could chalk it up to some sort of land concession and go to war over it.

He doesn't really seem to state how he got all that land though... I mean, he has Belgium, the Netherlands, Catalonia, even Switzerland, which is essentially impossible to take over, because a single line of soldiers in a mountain pass could hold off a small army. It also seems strange that most of these countries were never at war with France, so how did he get their land, and why does he claim to be neutral if he's seemingly conquered much of western Europe?
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Arana wrote:Fuck you and your raps,
And all your stupid rhyming.
Haiku master race.

*Drops mic*
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Postby Fascist Russian Empire » Thu Jul 23, 2015 7:46 pm

Fantrum wrote:EDIT: Also, why dont you want Rome?

If I were to wager a guess, perhaps it's because in his timeline Italy never annexed the Papal States, and the Pope is still an independent ruler; that would make sense.

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Postby Fantrum » Thu Jul 23, 2015 7:48 pm

Arana wrote:
Fantrum wrote:He asked for it, you could chalk it up to some sort of land concession and go to war over it.

He doesn't really seem to state how he got all that land though... I mean, he has Belgium, the Netherlands, Catalonia, even Switzerland, which is essentially impossible to take over, because a single line of soldiers in a mountain pass could hold off a small army. It also seems strange that most of these countries were never at war with France, so how did he get their land, and why does he claim to be neutral if he's seemingly conquered much of western Europe?

I didnt give him Switzerland. But I understand.

EDIT: Everyone has made good points, I'll be taking away Belgium and the Netherlands

Fascist Russian Empire wrote:
Fantrum wrote:EDIT: Also, why dont you want Rome?

If I were to wager a guess, perhaps it's because in his timeline Italy never annexed the Papal States, and the Pope is still an independent ruler; that would make sense.


Makes sense I guess :P
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Postby Fantrum » Thu Jul 23, 2015 7:56 pm

Alright, Ill be releasing an updated map in a bit, once a few apps are completed.
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Postby Plzen » Thu Jul 23, 2015 7:58 pm

France has ten thousand airships? Holy cow...

Can I revise my air force numbers up? Like, way, waaaay up?

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Postby Fascist Russian Empire » Thu Jul 23, 2015 8:02 pm

Plzen wrote:France has ten thousand airships? Holy cow...

Can I revise my air force numbers up? Like, way, waaaay up?

I've seen this effect before, where one person has a bullshit number of whatever, so everyone else decides that they also want to have a ludicrously large bullshit army. No, you can't have thousands upon thousands of airships. If I were the OP, I would have taken one look at the French APP and instantly denied it, and Fantrum probably should have done the same; there's just so much shit wrong with it.

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Postby The New Byzantine II » Thu Jul 23, 2015 8:04 pm

Who wants to trade with the young Imperial Japan?
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Postby Arana » Thu Jul 23, 2015 8:04 pm

Fascist Russian Empire wrote:
Plzen wrote:France has ten thousand airships? Holy cow...

Can I revise my air force numbers up? Like, way, waaaay up?

I've seen this effect before, where one person has a bullshit number of whatever, so everyone else decides that they also want to have a ludicrously large bullshit army. No, you can't have thousands upon thousands of airships. If I were the OP, I would have taken one look at the French APP and instantly denied it, and Fantrum probably should have done the same; there's just so much shit wrong with it.

In another RP, everyone's navies were ridiculously huge because for some reason, the OP saw nothing wrong with an independent Venice in 1907 that had over a hundred ships in its navy
Prophet of Lavanthulhu -- A Proud Portal Nationalist -- Bet on Bernie 2016

Arana wrote:Fuck you and your raps,
And all your stupid rhyming.
Haiku master race.

*Drops mic*
Seventeen year old probably straight Christian socialist from New England.

"Aran is basically a very pissed-off Chihuahua combined with a bisexual Billy Graham, minus the bisexuality." -Lavan Tiri

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Postby Fantrum » Thu Jul 23, 2015 8:05 pm

Fascist Russian Empire wrote:
Plzen wrote:France has ten thousand airships? Holy cow...

Can I revise my air force numbers up? Like, way, waaaay up?

I've seen this effect before, where one person has a bullshit number of whatever, so everyone else decides that they also want to have a ludicrously large bullshit army. No, you can't have thousands upon thousands of airships. If I were the OP, I would have taken one look at the French APP and instantly denied it, and Fantrum probably should have done the same; there's just so much shit wrong with it.

See my thinking is that their grammar sucks and the 10k is actually the number of personnel.
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Postby Arana » Thu Jul 23, 2015 8:08 pm

Fantrum wrote:
Fascist Russian Empire wrote:I've seen this effect before, where one person has a bullshit number of whatever, so everyone else decides that they also want to have a ludicrously large bullshit army. No, you can't have thousands upon thousands of airships. If I were the OP, I would have taken one look at the French APP and instantly denied it, and Fantrum probably should have done the same; there's just so much shit wrong with it.

See my thinking is that their grammar sucks and the 10k is actually the number of personnel.

But... it says 10,000 Airships, while the Navy says 50,000 and Army also 50,000, which implies that the army and navy are personnel and the airships is ships.
Prophet of Lavanthulhu -- A Proud Portal Nationalist -- Bet on Bernie 2016

Arana wrote:Fuck you and your raps,
And all your stupid rhyming.
Haiku master race.

*Drops mic*
Seventeen year old probably straight Christian socialist from New England.

"Aran is basically a very pissed-off Chihuahua combined with a bisexual Billy Graham, minus the bisexuality." -Lavan Tiri

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Postby Fantrum » Thu Jul 23, 2015 8:12 pm

Arana wrote:
Fantrum wrote:See my thinking is that their grammar sucks and the 10k is actually the number of personnel.

But... it says 10,000 Airships, while the Navy says 50,000 and Army also 50,000, which implies that the army and navy are personnel and the airships is ships.

True... Ugh, Ill strike him from the nation list until its fixed
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Postby Plzen » Thu Jul 23, 2015 8:13 pm

Fascist Russian Empire wrote:
Plzen wrote:France has ten thousand airships? Holy cow...

Can I revise my air force numbers up? Like, way, waaaay up?

I've seen this effect before, where one person has a bullshit number of whatever, so everyone else decides that they also want to have a ludicrously large bullshit army. No, you can't have thousands upon thousands of airships. If I were the OP, I would have taken one look at the French APP and instantly denied it, and Fantrum probably should have done the same; there's just so much shit wrong with it.

Nah. That's not me.

I merely propose to give myself the 900-aircraft air force that the Czechs had IRL by 1937.

EDIT: France's application overturned? Oh. Then there's no reason for me to touch anything. Never mind.
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Postby Fantrum » Thu Jul 23, 2015 8:16 pm

Plzen wrote:
Fascist Russian Empire wrote:I've seen this effect before, where one person has a bullshit number of whatever, so everyone else decides that they also want to have a ludicrously large bullshit army. No, you can't have thousands upon thousands of airships. If I were the OP, I would have taken one look at the French APP and instantly denied it, and Fantrum probably should have done the same; there's just so much shit wrong with it.

Nah. That's not me.

I merely propose to give myself the 900-aircraft air force that the Czechs had IRL by 1937.

EDIT: France's application overturned? Oh. Then there's no reason for me to touch anything. Never mind.

You know you can have airships right?
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Postby Soviet Chernarus » Thu Jul 23, 2015 8:22 pm

I will finish my app tomorrow morning, gotta go to sleep now. G'night all :)

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Postby Plzen » Thu Jul 23, 2015 8:23 pm

Fantrum wrote:
Plzen wrote:Nah. That's not me.

I merely propose to give myself the 900-aircraft air force that the Czechs had IRL by 1937.

EDIT: France's application overturned? Oh. Then there's no reason for me to touch anything. Never mind.

You know you can have airships right?

Airships are a type of aircraft... :p

I just went with the rule of thumb of "one-half of my RL 1937 military" in figuring out how much stuff I should have.

Since RL 1937 air force had 900 (fixed-winged) aircraft, I went ahead and gave myself 400 aircraft (airships).

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Postby Naval Monte » Thu Jul 23, 2015 8:31 pm

I don't think I can join in this one right now, sorry.
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