Quotes of People in Your Nation Mk. V

[Cumberlanda]

"Winners never quit, and quitters never win!"

-George Mays, relapsing alcoholic

[Auroya]

"It's really very questionable whether religious bigotry is entitled to any political representation at all."

--- Sir Whittle

[Ruridova]

"My opponent claims I stand for my principles too much. If I stand with my principles too much, I have one question for you. When did you last stand for your principles? You claim to stand for liberty, but you would have us sacrifice that in the name of security. You claim to stand for morality, but would ignore it when convenient, and claim some things must be brutal and ruthless and that we cannot try to change or mitigate that. You claim to stand for justice, but you would allow certain demographics to be treated unjustly to guarantee the continued dominance of others. You claim to stand for equality, but support a return to unbridled economic inequality and view large numbers of people as inherently threatening to groups you call more civilized. You seem perfectly willing to toss aside your principles; what exactly do you stand for, and when did you last stand for it at all?"
- then-Governor Sviatopolk Obrenovic in a televised debate; the specific opponent he is addressing was Libertarian candidate Roland Knight

[Auzkhia]

"Money is too important to be left to the banks."
-Alex Kirschbaum

[Nova Rossiya]

"Money is too important to be left to the banks."
-Alex Kirschbaum

"That's why we leave it in the banks of a country in the middle of the alps which will never ever fight in a war."
-Anon

[Auroya]

"Politicians and civilians know nothing of the realities of war... only military men can possibly have that experience and that knowledge. Why, then, should politicians and civilians have so much jurisdiction over the armed forces? We guard them and ensure their safety; they should not proceed to question - or at least should have far more limited ability to intervene in - the means by which we do so."

-- Alexander Lockridge-Calliwell, Chief of Staff

[Bourbon Francia]

"Patriotism is when love of your own people comes first; nationalism, when hate for people other than your own comes first."
-Former Prime Minister Charles De Gaulle 1969 on leaving his premiership

[Bereia]

"It's really very questionable whether religious bigotry is entitled to any political representation at all."

--- Sir Whittle

"Of course, because you know so much better, so why should anybody who questions your incalculable wisdom even be allowed a voice? Today it's people you see as religious bigots. Tomorrow it's likely some other bunch. Supporters of opposing economic models, perhaps?"

-- Julissa Hickman, Citizen.

[Saurisisia]

"Those who have never tasted the fury of war should not govern how we wage war."
~ Flavius Bassetti, 18th century Saurian general and politician

[Ruridova]

"My favorite thing about Islamists and Islamophobes is that they both make the same argument- that the West and Islam are inherently incompatible and must be in a state of perpetual war."
- fmr. Prime Minister Madeleine l'Petain

"It's really very questionable whether religious bigotry is entitled to any political representation at all."

--- Sir Whittle

"Of course, because you know so much better, so why should anybody who questions your incalculable wisdom even be allowed a voice? Today it's people you see as religious bigots. Tomorrow it's likely some other bunch. Supporters of opposing economic models, perhaps?"

-- Julissa Hickman, Citizen.

"If my memory serves me correctly, you view Muslims having sex as a threat to Western society, believe that unemployment benefits will lead us into an orwellian nightmare, and have only ever used ad hominems and fallacies when arguing against people on the other side of the spectrum. I don't think you get to talk about bigotry or logic, at least not without looking hypocritical."
- Leopold Dietkrech

[Great Eldaria]

Making a better today, tomorrow!
- Lazy Great Eldarian teacher

[Bereia]

"If my memory serves me correctly, you view Muslims having sex as a threat to Western society, believe that unemployment benefits will lead us into an orwellian nightmare, and have only ever used ad hominems and fallacies when arguing against people on the other side of the spectrum. I don't think you get to talk about bigotry or logic, at least not without looking hypocritical."
- Leopold Dietkrech

"You do not recall correctly, to say the least. Where you got the idea about the Muslims is beyond me. I have never said welfare is entirely bad as a rule, though no doubt you have believed that is how I feel because it helps you to feel superior, and on that last one, I am perhaps tired of reasoning with fools. I don't think that decision is truly yours to make."

-- Julissa Hickman, Citizen.

[The Yorkshire Commonwealth]

"If my memory serves me correctly, you view Muslims having sex as a threat to Western society, believe that unemployment benefits will lead us into an orwellian nightmare, and have only ever used ad hominems and fallacies when arguing against people on the other side of the spectrum. I don't think you get to talk about bigotry or logic, at least not without looking hypocritical."
- Leopold Dietkrech

"You do not recall correctly, to say the least. Where you got the idea about the Muslims is beyond me."

-- Julissa Hickman, Citizen.

Probably here:

"Does the Bible command Christians to subjugate, eradicate, and torment non-Christians? Anywhere? It does not. Instances of Christians doing so were perversions of their faith. Does the Qur'an instruct Muslims to subjugate, eradicate, and torment non-Muslims? It does. ISIS are simply being proper Muslims."

-- Julissa Hickman, Citizen.

And here:

"We need to tolerate Muslims in this country today so that one day, when we are the minorities, they will tolerate us."

"Except they won't. They will exterminate you like vermin. Have you ever actually read the Qur'an? In an Islamic society all non-Muslims are killed, or forced to live as second class citizens because it says in the book that you should be one."

-- Secretary of State Amaya Tagliaferro, in conversation with a European diplomat.

Not only do you have a very warped opinion of Islam, you have evidentially not read the Bible... Or have read a very edited version.

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"No one has yet been able to give me a good justification for why people who believe in UFOs, laylines, faeries, ghosts or sorcery are universally derided as loons, whereas people who place just as baseless a belief in God are not... They have the same level of evidence to support their believes: None. And only the Godbotherers use their superstitions to justify discrimination."

-Prime Minister Florimel 'Flossy' Gardner

[Sekuo]

If you fail to accept yourself and your ideals, you will never understand the world that exists beyons your body.

Deny your hypocrisy, you deny the reality and the world itself.

—Bāuvākhōn Daišēmbhy, householder of Wāt Prācikhām

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Those who are obsessed with truth will not find it here.Truth is a matter of perception, and such perceptions are flawed both in a biological sense and a psychological sense.

But please, do enlighten of what it is true and absolute. Go on now, tell me what you have found as of the present...

—Māyā Sōnghātapūrī, widow and householder of Wāt Veāng

[Cumberlanda]

"No no, you have it all wrong. You shouldn't bar people from having a voice. EVER. No matter what magical being you do or do not believe in."

-President Balboa Samuelsson, when being proposed a bill banning high school dropouts from voting.

[Ruridova]

"You do not recall correctly, to say the least. Where you got the idea about the Muslims is beyond me."

-- Julissa Hickman, Citizen.

Probably here:

"Does the Bible command Christians to subjugate, eradicate, and torment non-Christians? Anywhere? It does not. Instances of Christians doing so were perversions of their faith. Does the Qur'an instruct Muslims to subjugate, eradicate, and torment non-Muslims? It does. ISIS are simply being proper Muslims."

-- Julissa Hickman, Citizen.

And here:

"We need to tolerate Muslims in this country today so that one day, when we are the minorities, they will tolerate us."

"Except they won't. They will exterminate you like vermin. Have you ever actually read the Qur'an? In an Islamic society all non-Muslims are killed, or forced to live as second class citizens because it says in the book that you should be one."

-- Secretary of State Amaya Tagliaferro, in conversation with a European diplomat.

Not only do you have a very warped opinion of Islam, you have evidentially not read the Bible... Or have read a very edited version.

Also I recall a conversation where the argument was made that Muslims were going to out-unprotected-sex white people, radicalize their children, and declare a eurocaliphate, or something utterly fantastical and absurd along those lines.

"If my memory serves me correctly, you view Muslims having sex as a threat to Western society, believe that unemployment benefits will lead us into an orwellian nightmare, and have only ever used ad hominems and fallacies when arguing against people on the other side of the spectrum. I don't think you get to talk about bigotry or logic, at least not without looking hypocritical."
- Leopold Dietkrech

"You do not recall correctly, to say the least. Where you got the idea about the Muslims is beyond me. I have never said welfare is entirely bad as a rule, though no doubt you have believed that is how I feel because it helps you to feel superior, and on that last one, I am perhaps tired of reasoning with fools. I don't think that decision is truly yours to make."

-- Julissa Hickman, Citizen.

"You've argued that giving money to the poor and healthcare to the sick is going to turn Ruridova into Oceania, because the government offering aid is obviously the same as spying on the people continuously. Also, the fact that most your 'argument' of here is ad hominems and insults really helps my argument that they make up a fair amount of your arsenal."
- Leopold Dietkrech

[Auroya]

"...Up to 41 celsius now. It's meant to still be around thirty in the late evening."

"Today is a really great day not to go outside, I reckon."

"The observatory will wait but the clouds won't, you know."

--- Lady Langley a. Arneth and Evangeline Monty

[Gorgashia]

I think this is the part where you take the argument to TG, if you don't mind me saying.

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"Surprise; one's greatest ally and most bitter foe in battle."

- Gorgashian proverb.

[The Nexus of Man]

This is why ED notices us, because y'all won't stop bickering.

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<sup>"It is good to be back."

"Be back where?"

"Nevermind."</sup>

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• anon.

[Bereia]

I think this is the part where you take the argument to TG, if you don't mind me saying.

(OOC: Already intending to, though Francis and I don't usually end arguments conclusively, so if he doesn't mind it can just die here.)

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"If the shoulder rig for the pistol you want to carry doesn't leave it pointing straight down, don't use it. Carry a different piece, or use a hip rig. If it's pointing back behind you, it's pointing at the individual behind you, whoever that happens to be. Unless you are comfortable with the idea of shooting that person, that is not okay."

-- Julissa Hickman, Citizen, acting in her role as a purveyor of firearms and firearm accessories.

[Ruridova]

I think this is the part where you take the argument to TG, if you don't mind me saying.

(OOC: Already intending to, though Francis and I don't usually end arguments conclusively, so if he doesn't mind it can just die here.)

...have we ever ended an argument conclusively? I don't recall that ever happening.

Regardless, we've inconclusively argued this for some time now and I now have a mod for EU4 that makes all the flags Polandballs so I'm going to be focusing on that.

"So when a pre-Columbian New World nation reaches military tech level seven... they invent the horse?"
- ATGNSMM, slightly confused

[Anatoliki Romi (Ancient)]

(OOC: Already intending to, though Francis and I don't usually end arguments conclusively, so if he doesn't mind it can just die here.)

...have we ever ended an argument conclusively? I don't recall that ever happening.

Regardless, we've inconclusively argued this for some time now and I now have a mod for EU4 that makes all the flags Polandballs so I'm going to be focusing on that.

"So when a pre-Columbian New World nation reaches military tech level seven... they invent the horse?"
- ATGNSMM, slightly confused

"I like to think they start riding Llamas into war."
-Romulus Caligulus, Author avatar and frequent player of Paradox games.

[Bereia]

...have we ever ended an argument conclusively? I don't recall that ever happening.

(OOC: Eh, once in a while. Now go Polandball.)

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"In the Bible, it is clearly stated that God perceives time differently than ourselves. Thus, six days by God's time is not six days by ours, and the reverse."

-- Father Nathan Cathcart.

[Auroya]

"ENLIST - CRUSH THE COMMUNISTS WITH YOUR MIND"

-- 'Department of Psy Ops' poster, 1981

[Ruridova]

...have we ever ended an argument conclusively? I don't recall that ever happening.

Regardless, we've inconclusively argued this for some time now and I now have a mod for EU4 that makes all the flags Polandballs so I'm going to be focusing on that.

"So when a pre-Columbian New World nation reaches military tech level seven... they invent the horse?"
- ATGNSMM, slightly confused

"I like to think they start riding Llamas into war."
-Romulus Caligulus, Author avatar and frequent player of Paradox games.

"I'm the Iriquois. Llamas are Andean. Slight problem."
- ATGNSMM