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Postby Kassaran » Mon Jun 22, 2015 8:20 pm

perhaps a combined dual-engine single exhaust platform is possible?
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Postby United RussoAsia » Mon Jun 22, 2015 8:21 pm

Kassaran wrote:perhaps a combined dual-engine single exhaust platform is possible?

Eeeeeeh.
MAYBE, but I don't think that it's a great idea.
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Postby Kassaran » Mon Jun 22, 2015 8:34 pm

United RussoAsia wrote:
Kassaran wrote:perhaps a combined dual-engine single exhaust platform is possible?

Eeeeeeh.
MAYBE, but I don't think that it's a great idea.

Or perhaps close enough exhaust nozzles to make it look like a single, but it's a double?
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Postby United RussoAsia » Mon Jun 22, 2015 8:37 pm

Kassaran wrote:
United RussoAsia wrote:Eeeeeeh.
MAYBE, but I don't think that it's a great idea.

Or perhaps close enough exhaust nozzles to make it look like a single, but it's a double?

I mean, I guess you could. Why you would, I'm not sure.
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Postby Vladivoseoul » Mon Jun 22, 2015 8:41 pm

Just a Thought, put your intakes and engines on top instead of protruding from the rear, do it like the B-2.



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Postby United RussoAsia » Mon Jun 22, 2015 8:43 pm

Vladivoseoul wrote:Just a Thought, put your intakes and engines on top instead of protruding from the rear, do it like the B-2.



Also, United RussoAsia I love your flag.

Thanks.
It was made by hariko, and I'm quite fond of it myself.
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Postby Vladivoseoul » Mon Jun 22, 2015 8:46 pm

I made my own but i do not like how the red of my yin-yang blends with the red of my flag. I may have t red it some time.

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Postby Kassaran » Mon Jun 22, 2015 8:47 pm

Vladivoseoul wrote:Just a Thought, put your intakes and engines on top instead of protruding from the rear, do it like the B-2.



Also, United RussoAsia I love your flag.

Hmm, I've noted your suggestion. It shall be highly considered for coolness points.
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Postby Vladivoseoul » Mon Jun 22, 2015 8:56 pm

Kassaran wrote:
Vladivoseoul wrote:Just a Thought, put your intakes and engines on top instead of protruding from the rear, do it like the B-2.



Also, United RussoAsia I love your flag.

Hmm, I've noted your suggestion. It shall be highly considered for coolness points.


coolness factor aside, it also hides the IR of those engines well

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Postby Iltica » Tue Jun 23, 2015 12:00 am

We've been over the intakes on the top, It's not a good idea for any fighter that wants to have much in the way of angle of attack. Besides, the YF-23-esque exhausts you were already using will make it very difficult to spot the IR emissions from the ground.
But why do you need a single exhaust?
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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Tue Jun 23, 2015 8:46 am

@Kassaran

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Ame ... 108_Rapier

This is what a cranked delta looks like done right. Just raptorize an XF-108 if you want a workable stelf fighter with lots of gottagofast on the side.
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Postby United RussoAsia » Tue Jun 23, 2015 8:53 am

Alright.

I want to make some kind of VTOL gunship, maybe a three person crew, with front armament, air-to-air and air-to-surface missiles, and a turret.
...useful at all? Practical? Doable? Insane?
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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Tue Jun 23, 2015 8:53 am

United RussoAsia wrote:Alright.

I want to make some kind of VTOL gunship

It's called an Apache.
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Postby Husseinarti » Tue Jun 23, 2015 8:56 am

United RussoAsia wrote:Alright.

I want to make some kind of VTOL gunship, maybe a three person crew, with front armament, air-to-air and air-to-surface missiles, and a turret.
...useful at all? Practical? Doable? Insane?


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Postby Vladivoseoul » Tue Jun 23, 2015 9:36 am

I imagine when he says VTOL he means a tilt rotor like the osprey, otherwise he would have just said helicopter.

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Postby United RussoAsia » Tue Jun 23, 2015 9:40 am

Vladivoseoul wrote:I imagine when he says VTOL he means a tilt rotor like the osprey, otherwise he would have just said helicopter.

Tilt rotor or tilt engine, yes.

I want more durability than a heli.
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Postby Miklania » Tue Jun 23, 2015 9:59 am

Paragania wrote:Just use the A-164 Wipeout from ArmA 3. :)

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Yeah, that thing is really cool, although it really isn't stealthy, as the fan blades are still exposed.

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Postby Miklania » Tue Jun 23, 2015 10:03 am

United RussoAsia wrote:Alright.

I want to make some kind of VTOL gunship, maybe a three person crew, with front armament, air-to-air and air-to-surface missiles, and a turret.
...useful at all? Practical? Doable? Insane?

Perhaps this?

http://bellv280.com/

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On NSG: I believe the technical term for you people is "malformed conscience".

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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Tue Jun 23, 2015 10:08 am

It's just an Osprey.
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Postby Miklania » Tue Jun 23, 2015 10:16 am

Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:It's just an Osprey.

Nein. It is smaller. More like tilt-rotor blackhawk than an osprey. The osprey has large door in the back, this has side doors.

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Postby United RussoAsia » Tue Jun 23, 2015 10:23 am

Miklania wrote:
United RussoAsia wrote:Alright.

I want to make some kind of VTOL gunship, maybe a three person crew, with front armament, air-to-air and air-to-surface missiles, and a turret.
...useful at all? Practical? Doable? Insane?

Perhaps this?

http://bellv280.com/

Pretty much, although smaller if at all possible, and with more emphasis on the gunship factor than the dropship factor.
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Postby Miklania » Tue Jun 23, 2015 10:29 am

United RussoAsia wrote:
Miklania wrote:Perhaps this?

http://bellv280.com/

Pretty much, although smaller if at all possible, and with more emphasis on the gunship factor than the dropship factor.

You no see variant with chain gun and rocket pods and hellfires in doors?

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Postby United RussoAsia » Tue Jun 23, 2015 11:28 am

Miklania wrote:
United RussoAsia wrote:Pretty much, although smaller if at all possible, and with more emphasis on the gunship factor than the dropship factor.

You no see variant with chain gun and rocket pods and hellfires in doors?

On closer inspection, I do.

Like that.
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Postby Crookfur » Tue Jun 23, 2015 1:26 pm

United RussoAsia wrote:
Vladivoseoul wrote:I imagine when he says VTOL he means a tilt rotor like the osprey, otherwise he would have just said helicopter.

Tilt rotor or tilt engine, yes.

I want more durability than a heli.


Neither gives you more durability.

You want something faster than a helicopter, more survivable, that has similarly good hover performance and control and doesn't have hideous instadeath areas of its flight envelope? Then you need a compound gyrodyne, preferably of the rotodyne genus.
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Postby The Kievan People » Tue Jun 23, 2015 3:09 pm

United RussoAsia wrote:Alright.

I want to make some kind of VTOL gunship, maybe a three person crew, with front armament, air-to-air and air-to-surface missiles, and a turret.
...useful at all? Practical? Doable? Insane?


Doable but fairly worthless. Tilt rotors gigantic podded engines will make then extremely vulnerable to battle damage, and if they are damaged below flight speed they will crash catastrophically.
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