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Postby Bodobol » Thu May 14, 2015 12:33 pm

Ameriganastan wrote:The hell is Djent?


Meshuggah, After the Burial, Periphery, etc. Bands that mostly use seven/eight string guitars and have werd time signatures and stuff. There's a couple decent djenty bands, but most are pretty unoriginal and boring.
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Postby The New Sea Territory » Thu May 14, 2015 12:40 pm

Ameriganastan wrote:The hell is Djent?


Djent is a strange style of progressive metal, though it usually gets associated with a metalcore fanbase. The word comes from the sound of high-gain palm-muting.

Ameriganastan wrote:
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0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-1-1-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0

Uh...okay?


It's poking fun at the guitar tabs for some djent bands, which really do look like that.

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"Djen-djen" SKIP
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NOPE NOPE NOPE


Djent. The most hilariously awful of all Metal Genres.


Besides glam "metal".
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Postby Rob Halfordia » Thu May 14, 2015 12:41 pm

The New Sea Territory wrote:
Ameriganastan wrote:The hell is Djent?


Djent is a strange style of progressive metal, though it usually gets associated with a metalcore fanbase. The word comes from the sound of high-gain palm-muting.

Ameriganastan wrote:Uh...okay?


It's poking fun at the guitar tabs for some djent bands, which really do look like that.

Rob Halfordia wrote:
Djent. The most hilariously awful of all Metal Genres.


Besides glam "metal".


>ignores great glam metal like Yngwie Malmsteen's Odyssey
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Postby NeuPolska » Thu May 14, 2015 1:11 pm

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NeuPolska wrote:Sabaton is power metal, by the way :p

Sabaton is goddamn Battle Metal. They transcend Power Metal.

That's not what the Encyclopedia Metallum says :p

They're Power Metal. But I could see Battle Metal fitting them.

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Postby Landenburg » Thu May 14, 2015 2:09 pm

Dunno if anyone is into them here but I've been getting into Persefone rather recently.

Really don't like death metal but I'm loving this band.
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Postby Revanchism » Thu May 14, 2015 5:03 pm

Aw, guys, can't you see the diversity of djent?
Why, here, I'll name the Big Four of Djent:
Djentallica, Djenthrax, Djenter, Megadjent
Meshuggah, NotMeshuggah, TotallyNotMeshuggah, ISwearWe'reNotMeshuggahGuys
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Postby Edward Richtofen » Thu May 14, 2015 5:39 pm

speaking of Big Fours
I'm upset we never had a Death Metal Big Four
Imagine DEATH, Morbid Angel, Deicide and Obituary all on the same stage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__j5Z_WcVgE
doing something like this

though realistically unlike The Big Four the lineup of bands would be way different
THE Big Four: Metallica, coin toss between Slayer and Megadeth, Motorhead, and Venom
Death Metal Big Four: DEATH, Bolt Thrower, Cannibal Corpse, Carcass
Black Metal Big Four: 2 Homicides, Several Church Burnings, Oh Shit Here We Go Again With These Fucking Norwegian Teenagers, and Immortal
(points if you can name the third band)
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Postby Revanchism » Thu May 14, 2015 6:24 pm

It's gotta be either Darkthrone or Taake.
Gotta be.
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Norstal wrote:You ever watched a bad movie that is so bad, that it's enlightening? Like, you start asking yourself, "why did I watched this movie. What is the meaning of life after I watched this movie."
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:Excuse me, I believe that the proper term is Satanic-American.
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Postby Edward Richtofen » Thu May 14, 2015 6:36 pm

Revanchism wrote:It's gotta be either Darkthrone or Taake.
Gotta be.

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-Communists are big fans of capitalism
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-Vegans fucking love to eat meat.
-Christians actually worship Satan.
-Homosexual men all like to sleep with women.

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Postby Rob Halfordia » Thu May 14, 2015 6:46 pm

Edward Richtofen wrote:speaking of Big Fours
I'm upset we never had a Death Metal Big Four
Imagine DEATH, Morbid Angel, Deicide and Obituary all on the same stage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__j5Z_WcVgE
doing something like this

though realistically unlike The Big Four the lineup of bands would be way different
THE Big Four: Metallica, coin toss between Slayer and Megadeth, Motorhead, and Venom
Death Metal Big Four: DEATH, Bolt Thrower, Cannibal Corpse, probably Morbid Angel
Black Metal Big Four: 2 Homicides, Several Church Burnings, Oh Shit Here We Go Again With These Fucking Norwegian Teenagers, and Immortal
(points if you can name the third band)

I can't name whatever band you're talking about, but if it's not Darkthrone or Bathory, then it's wrong anyways.
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Postby Edward Richtofen » Thu May 14, 2015 6:47 pm

Rob Halfordia wrote:
Edward Richtofen wrote:speaking of Big Fours
I'm upset we never had a Death Metal Big Four
Imagine DEATH, Morbid Angel, Deicide and Obituary all on the same stage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__j5Z_WcVgE
doing something like this

though realistically unlike The Big Four the lineup of bands would be way different
THE Big Four: Metallica, coin toss between Slayer and Megadeth, Motorhead, and Venom
Death Metal Big Four: DEATH, Bolt Thrower, Cannibal Corpse, probably Morbid Angel
Black Metal Big Four: 2 Homicides, Several Church Burnings, Oh Shit Here We Go Again With These Fucking Norwegian Teenagers, and Immortal
(points if you can name the third band)

Bathory

Ding? I guess.
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-Communists are big fans of capitalism
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-Homosexual men all like to sleep with women.

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Postby Hurdegaryp » Thu May 14, 2015 6:48 pm

NeuPolska wrote:
Rob Halfordia wrote:Sabaton is goddamn Battle Metal. They transcend Power Metal.

That's not what the Encyclopedia Metallum says :p

They're Power Metal. But I could see Battle Metal fitting them.

There is something called war metal, but that's pretty much invented and perfected by Bolt Thrower. Sabaton is pretty much the band for those who don't want to be known as yet another Iron Maiden fanboy/girl, but they also fear the churning darkness of death/black metal and grindcore.
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Postby Edward Richtofen » Thu May 14, 2015 6:51 pm

Hurdegaryp wrote:
NeuPolska wrote:That's not what the Encyclopedia Metallum says :p

They're Power Metal. But I could see Battle Metal fitting them.

There is something called war metal, but that's pretty much invented and perfected by Bolt Thrower. Sabaton is pretty much the band for those who don't want to be known as yet another Iron Maiden fanboy/girl, but they also fear the churning darkness of death/black metal and grindcore.

Try early Sodom, early Sepultura, Zyklon-B, and early Autopsy instead of Bolt Thrower
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-Communists are big fans of capitalism
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-Vegans fucking love to eat meat.
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-Homosexual men all like to sleep with women.

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Postby Hurdegaryp » Thu May 14, 2015 7:06 pm

Edward Richtofen wrote:
Hurdegaryp wrote:There is something called war metal, but that's pretty much invented and perfected by Bolt Thrower. Sabaton is pretty much the band for those who don't want to be known as yet another Iron Maiden fanboy/girl, but they also fear the churning darkness of death/black metal and grindcore.

Try early Sodom, early Sepultura, Zyklon-B, and early Autopsy instead of Bolt Thrower

No, I'm pretty much going to repeat that it's all about Bolt Thrower, if only because I've been into this kind of music a bit longer than you are. Feel free to accuse me of ageism. You know you want to.
CVT Temp wrote:I mean, we can actually create a mathematical definition for evolution in terms of the evolutionary algorithm and then write code to deal with abstract instances of evolution, which basically equates to mathematical proof that evolution works. All that remains is to show that biological systems replicate in such a way as to satisfy the minimal criteria required for evolution to apply to them, something which has already been adequately shown time and again. At this point, we've pretty much proven that not only can evolution happen, it pretty much must happen since it's basically impossible to prevent it from happening.

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Postby Edward Richtofen » Thu May 14, 2015 7:13 pm

Hurdegaryp wrote:
Edward Richtofen wrote:Try early Sodom, early Sepultura, Zyklon-B, and early Autopsy instead of Bolt Thrower

No, I'm pretty much going to repeat that it's all about Bolt Thrower, if only because I've been into this kind of music a bit longer than you are. Feel free to accuse me of ageism. You know you want to.

Bolt Thrower is Death Metal
War Metal is a "sub-genre" of Black Metal
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-Communists are big fans of capitalism
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-Christians actually worship Satan.
-Homosexual men all like to sleep with women.

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Postby Hurdegaryp » Thu May 14, 2015 7:15 pm

Edward Richtofen wrote:
Hurdegaryp wrote:No, I'm pretty much going to repeat that it's all about Bolt Thrower, if only because I've been into this kind of music a bit longer than you are. Feel free to accuse me of ageism. You know you want to.

Bolt Thrower is Death Metal
War Metal is a "sub-genre" of Black Metal

Cool story, bro. You're wrong, though.
CVT Temp wrote:I mean, we can actually create a mathematical definition for evolution in terms of the evolutionary algorithm and then write code to deal with abstract instances of evolution, which basically equates to mathematical proof that evolution works. All that remains is to show that biological systems replicate in such a way as to satisfy the minimal criteria required for evolution to apply to them, something which has already been adequately shown time and again. At this point, we've pretty much proven that not only can evolution happen, it pretty much must happen since it's basically impossible to prevent it from happening.

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Postby Edward Richtofen » Thu May 14, 2015 7:20 pm

Hurdegaryp wrote:
Edward Richtofen wrote:Bolt Thrower is Death Metal
War Metal is a "sub-genre" of Black Metal

Cool story, bro. You're wrong, though.

care to elaborate or just act upon an elevated horse?
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Postby Hurdegaryp » Thu May 14, 2015 7:24 pm

Edward Richtofen wrote:
Hurdegaryp wrote:Cool story, bro. You're wrong, though.

care to elaborate or just act upon an elevated horse?

You got your 'opinion' from a segment from a specific segment of a certain Wikipedia article, said segment was based solely upon the personal opinion of one German journalist, and one only. I, however, actually listened to the music before internet was even a thing. If that does make me an old hipster, so be it.
CVT Temp wrote:I mean, we can actually create a mathematical definition for evolution in terms of the evolutionary algorithm and then write code to deal with abstract instances of evolution, which basically equates to mathematical proof that evolution works. All that remains is to show that biological systems replicate in such a way as to satisfy the minimal criteria required for evolution to apply to them, something which has already been adequately shown time and again. At this point, we've pretty much proven that not only can evolution happen, it pretty much must happen since it's basically impossible to prevent it from happening.

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Postby Edward Richtofen » Thu May 14, 2015 7:27 pm

Hurdegaryp wrote:
Edward Richtofen wrote:care to elaborate or just act upon an elevated horse?

You got your 'opinion' from a segment from a specific segment of a certain Wikipedia article, said segment was based solely upon the personal opinion of one German journalist, and one only. I, however, actually listened to the music before internet was even a thing. If that does make me an old hipster, so be it.

by that logic I listen to Amon Amarth the greatest Pop Punk band in the world
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Postby Hurdegaryp » Thu May 14, 2015 7:32 pm

Edward Richtofen wrote:
Hurdegaryp wrote:You got your 'opinion' from a segment from a specific segment of a certain Wikipedia article, said segment was based solely upon the personal opinion of one German journalist, and one only. I, however, actually listened to the music before internet was even a thing. If that does make me an old hipster, so be it.

by that logic I listen to Amon Amarth the greatest Pop Punk band in the world

More like a decidedly more melodic development from the concept pioneered by Stockholm death metal stalwarts Unleashed, even though you could also mention Bathory when it comes to the whole Norse/Viking aspect.
CVT Temp wrote:I mean, we can actually create a mathematical definition for evolution in terms of the evolutionary algorithm and then write code to deal with abstract instances of evolution, which basically equates to mathematical proof that evolution works. All that remains is to show that biological systems replicate in such a way as to satisfy the minimal criteria required for evolution to apply to them, something which has already been adequately shown time and again. At this point, we've pretty much proven that not only can evolution happen, it pretty much must happen since it's basically impossible to prevent it from happening.

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Postby Edward Richtofen » Thu May 14, 2015 7:34 pm

Hurdegaryp wrote:
Edward Richtofen wrote:by that logic I listen to Amon Amarth the greatest Pop Punk band in the world

More like a decidedly more melodic development from the concept pioneered by Stockholm death metal stalwarts Unleashed, even though you could also mention Bathory when it comes to the whole Norse/Viking aspect.

If you missed the point even further you'd be batting for the Mets
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-Communists are big fans of capitalism
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-Christians actually worship Satan.
-Homosexual men all like to sleep with women.

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Postby Hurdegaryp » Thu May 14, 2015 7:37 pm

Edward Richtofen wrote:
Hurdegaryp wrote:More like a decidedly more melodic development from the concept pioneered by Stockholm death metal stalwarts Unleashed, even though you could also mention Bathory when it comes to the whole Norse/Viking aspect.

If you missed the point even further you'd be batting for the Mets

An organized sports reference, and an organized sports reference carefully worded to be utterly irrelevant for any European. Carry on, good sir.
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Postby Edward Richtofen » Thu May 14, 2015 7:41 pm

Hurdegaryp wrote:
Edward Richtofen wrote:If you missed the point even further you'd be batting for the Mets

An organized sports reference, and an organized sports reference carefully worded to be utterly irrelevant for any European. Carry on, good sir.

Oh European? I got you
You're a Manchester U fan.

Just because you listened to something before it was cool does not give you the right to dictate what genre that band is. Nowhere on the internet does Bolt Thrower show up as War Metal but plenty of Black Metal bands show up.
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-Communists are big fans of capitalism
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-Christians actually worship Satan.
-Homosexual men all like to sleep with women.

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Postby Hurdegaryp » Thu May 14, 2015 7:46 pm

Edward Richtofen wrote:
Hurdegaryp wrote:An organized sports reference, and an organized sports reference carefully worded to be utterly irrelevant for any European. Carry on, good sir.

Oh European? I got you
You're a Manchester U fan.

Just because you listened to something before it was cool does not give you the right to dictate what genre that band is. Nowhere on the internet does Bolt Thrower show up as War Metal but plenty of Black Metal bands show up.

"BOLT THROWER's sound, for the uninitiated, is a finely-honed, majestic brand of war metal, which has evolved from the chaotic In Battle There Is No Law into modern-day metal classics like War Master and For Victory, heavy on the mid-tempo, double-bass drums thundering, creating a supremely heavy, doomy, epic quality to their martial songs of battle and warfare. The band's years of experience show in their songwriting, where every harmonic guitar run, every drum fill, is a necessary part, each song rolling forth with the lumbering grace of a Sherman tank, oblivious to trends or commercial concerns."

And that quote came from here, because I actually mention my sources.
CVT Temp wrote:I mean, we can actually create a mathematical definition for evolution in terms of the evolutionary algorithm and then write code to deal with abstract instances of evolution, which basically equates to mathematical proof that evolution works. All that remains is to show that biological systems replicate in such a way as to satisfy the minimal criteria required for evolution to apply to them, something which has already been adequately shown time and again. At this point, we've pretty much proven that not only can evolution happen, it pretty much must happen since it's basically impossible to prevent it from happening.

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Postby Edward Richtofen » Thu May 14, 2015 7:48 pm

Hurdegaryp wrote:
Edward Richtofen wrote:Oh European? I got you
You're a Manchester U fan.

Just because you listened to something before it was cool does not give you the right to dictate what genre that band is. Nowhere on the internet does Bolt Thrower show up as War Metal but plenty of Black Metal bands show up.

"BOLT THROWER's sound, for the uninitiated, is a finely-honed, majestic brand of war metal, which has evolved from the chaotic In Battle There Is No Law into modern-day metal classics like War Master and For Victory, heavy on the mid-tempo, double-bass drums thundering, creating a supremely heavy, doomy, epic quality to their martial songs of battle and warfare. The band's years of experience show in their songwriting, where every harmonic guitar run, every drum fill, is a necessary part, each song rolling forth with the lumbering grace of a Sherman tank, oblivious to trends or commercial concerns."

And that quote came from here, because I actually mention my sources.

ah yes let's just ask one journalist to define a band's genre
like you didn't just shoot that idea down in flames
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-Communists are big fans of capitalism
-Anarchists believe in the necessity of the state
-Vegans fucking love to eat meat.
-Christians actually worship Satan.
-Homosexual men all like to sleep with women.

Rob Halfordia wrote:Poduck, Kentucky?

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