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by The Rejected Times » Wed May 13, 2015 8:57 pm
by Zacherie » Wed May 13, 2015 9:04 pm
by Zombie Venico » Wed May 13, 2015 10:00 pm
by Great Brigantia » Wed May 13, 2015 11:00 pm
Zombie Venico wrote:No shit Elu and Flem would support a measure of declaring missions before hand. It's an inherently defender proposal. A defense/liberation while sometimes benefits from stealth most of the time doesn't use it or need it. Hell they're going out and asking as many people as possible for help. On the other hand, a raid is always about stealth/secrecy. Making the NPA propose an attack plan every time they want to raid would absolutely cripple its offensive capabilities...and they know that. It's why they support it.
by Guy » Thu May 14, 2015 12:14 am
Great Brigantia wrote:There are so many appalling inaccuracies in this article that it's mind boggling, and I've no intention of addressing them all. I do have a couple of points though:
1. The recent controversy has nothing -- I repeat: nothing -- whatsoever to do with military alignment. The military alignment of The North Pacific is independent and that is not remotely in question. The recent controversy has to do with transparency, oversight, free speech, and equal treatment. It has nothing at all to do with petty raider-defender squabbles, with raiders and defenders coming down on both sides of these issues. It's remarkable how Unibot is still, after all this time, unable to think outside his neat raider-defender box or recognize that others may do so.
Great Brigantia wrote:2. The really remarkable thing, though, is just how much the Delegate of The Rejected Realms knows about what is going on in the private forum of the Regional Assembly of The North Pacific. On the other hand, this is hardly the first time that Unibot has used espionage in The North Pacific to advance his ideological crusade. It is, however, the first time that we know of that he's done it as Delegate of The Rejected Realms and not merely the dictator of the UDL. Do the citizens of The Rejected Realms support their Delegate engaging in espionage against The North Pacific?
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by Great Brigantia » Thu May 14, 2015 12:19 am
Guy wrote:To be fair, I could see most of what had been discussed in the article on TNP's forum, and I'm not a citizen. I think only the reason for the resignation was in a private board, but it had been discussed extensively by other persons, in the public sphere, that it's fair for the Times to report on it. While clarifying that may have been best, it's not really a matter of espionage.
by The Rejected Realms Issue Committee » Thu May 14, 2015 4:25 am
by Arctriul » Thu May 14, 2015 4:44 am
The Rejected Realms Issue Committee wrote:UPDATE:Gradea have also announced their candidacy.
by Canton Empire » Thu May 14, 2015 6:27 am
by Punk Daddy » Thu May 14, 2015 9:38 am
Generally speaking, I think the North Pacific is moving towards a crossroads where it has to find a new ‘centre’ (the new ‘reasonable’) – because the old independent compromise (‘raid a lot, defend a bit, justify the imbalance as in our interests’) isn’t holding water anymore and hasn't for many citizens in the North Pacific who are looking for a military which broadly represents them
by Trick Shot » Thu May 14, 2015 11:30 am
Marelius wrote:You got Festavo'd
Revall wrote:Festavo is an off his rocker cowboy capable of anything at the drop of a hat
Nuke wrote:But can you really be more dangerous than Festavo? Now that guy is a real fucking OG.
Valrifell wrote:God dammit Fest, you think too much!
by Glen-Rhodes » Thu May 14, 2015 1:47 pm
by Great Brigantia » Thu May 14, 2015 1:59 pm
Glen-Rhodes wrote:2. Can we stop calling "espionage" every time Unibot writes something? That goes along with the dumb old "TRR Delegate Unibot" trope.
by Old Hope » Thu May 14, 2015 2:22 pm
Great Brigantia wrote:Glen-Rhodes wrote:2. Can we stop calling "espionage" every time Unibot writes something? That goes along with the dumb old "TRR Delegate Unibot" trope.
On which other occasions has someone called espionage when Unibot has written anything? As far as I know, the last time he was accused of espionage was in 2013 when a UDL Lieutenant, y'know, committed espionage and Unibot attempted to use it to the UDL's political and military benefit.
Do you have another word for the Delegate of a foreign region soliciting secret information from the private subforum of the Regional Assembly of The North Pacific, then publishing it?
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by Great Brigantia » Thu May 14, 2015 2:25 pm
Old Hope wrote:Actually...
Unibot is not only Delegate of TRR, but also head of the TRT. If someone leaked it to him in that capacity- well, you have a newspaper yourself, what would you have done?
by Zemnaya Svoboda » Thu May 14, 2015 3:12 pm
Zombie Venico wrote:No shit Elu and Flem would support a measure of declaring missions before hand. It's an inherently defender proposal. A defense/liberation while sometimes benefits from stealth most of the time doesn't use it or need it. Hell they're going out and asking as many people as possible for help. On the other hand, a raid is always about stealth/secrecy. Making the NPA propose an attack plan every time they want to raid would absolutely cripple its offensive capabilities...and they know that. It's why they support it.
Either way, I hope Tomb is ok and I wish my best to TNP. I hope you guys get a sound and reasonable delegate out of this and that your delegacy remains stable for awhile.
by Glen-Rhodes » Thu May 14, 2015 3:24 pm
by Great Brigantia » Thu May 14, 2015 3:29 pm
Glen-Rhodes wrote:Calling anything in that article espionage is a crying wolf situation.
by Frances Francis the First of France » Thu May 14, 2015 3:46 pm
The Rejected Realms Media Corporation wrote:This week has been a rough week for the re-electee; although being soundly re-elected, he did face controversy when Cascadia announced prematurely that he had been appointed as Culture Minister, despite the fact that the (popular) sitting Culture Minister, Lord Lore hadn't been told first that he would be shuffled to the Entertainment Ministry.
by The Church of Satan » Thu May 14, 2015 5:32 pm
by Great Brigantia » Thu May 14, 2015 7:47 pm
The Church of Satan wrote:Right...because the possibility that someone in TNP blabbed just isn't possible. Chances are, it did happen. Just because you don't like the information being out there, doesn't mean espionage was involved. NS is full of gossip and TNP is no exception. Get over it.
by Arctriul » Thu May 14, 2015 8:07 pm
by Sovreignry » Thu May 14, 2015 9:23 pm
Great Brigantia wrote:The Church of Satan wrote:Right...because the possibility that someone in TNP blabbed just isn't possible. Chances are, it did happen. Just because you don't like the information being out there, doesn't mean espionage was involved. NS is full of gossip and TNP is no exception. Get over it.
I'm sure someone in TNP did blab; that's the only way he could get the information. That doesn't make it any less espionage.
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