by Golgothastan » Wed May 06, 2015 6:16 am
by Mallorea and Riva » Fri May 08, 2015 5:58 pm
by Omigodtheykilledkenny » Fri May 08, 2015 6:52 pm
by Mallorea and Riva » Fri May 08, 2015 6:53 pm
Omigodtheykilledkenny wrote:Another drawback: there would still have to be rules about what content can be incorporated into proposals, and enforcement of those rules may prove even more difficult and likely to breed dispute than the current category system. I recall one proposal about nuclear energy that included a completely non-germane clause about nuclear disarmament. Wouldn't proposals still have to be moderated to assure that proposals do not contain non-germane language - for example, an international toy drive that included a clause to remove all barriers on trade?
by Omigodtheykilledkenny » Fri May 08, 2015 6:56 pm
by Mallorea and Riva » Fri May 08, 2015 7:00 pm
Omigodtheykilledkenny wrote:So there's nothing wrong with a proposal to protect endangered species that also includes a clause that states by the way, all third-trimester abortions are banned? I'm not sure even the US Congress allows those types of shenanigans. What useful purpose would legalizing that sort of bullshit possibly serve?
by Flibbleites » Fri May 08, 2015 7:05 pm
by Omigodtheykilledkenny » Fri May 08, 2015 7:06 pm
Mallorea and Riva wrote:Omigodtheykilledkenny wrote:So there's nothing wrong with a proposal to protect endangered species that also includes a clause that states by the way, all third-trimester abortions are banned? I'm not sure even the US Congress allows those types of shenanigans. What useful purpose would legalizing that sort of bullshit possibly serve?
The US Congress absolutely allows those types of shenanigans.
by Mallorea and Riva » Fri May 08, 2015 7:15 pm
Omigodtheykilledkenny wrote:Mallorea and Riva wrote:The US Congress absolutely allows those types of shenanigans.
Not Really, but your point about it being more fun is well taken. A lot of the fun has been sucked out of the GA lately.
by The Dark Star Republic » Sat May 09, 2015 12:50 am
Omigodtheykilledkenny wrote:I recall one proposal about nuclear energy that included a completely non-germane clause about nuclear disarmament. (Don't remember who it was - LAE? Could it have been that far back? Ye Gods.)
by Old Hope » Sat May 09, 2015 5:20 am
Imperium Anglorum wrote:The format wars are a waste of time.
by Mousebumples » Sat May 09, 2015 8:09 am
by The Dark Star Republic » Sat May 09, 2015 8:31 am
Mousebumples wrote:I know I haven't been authoring much recently, but I know that when I was a more active author, I liked the existing category system because it helped me focus my ideas and thoughts and write what I felt were more effective proposals.
Personally, I have no interest in issue authoring because I haven't the faintest clue where to even start with coming up with an idea. I think this sort of change would make the general assembly into more of "international issue authoring" rather than resolution writing. I don't want to speak for more active authors, but I don't know that that would engage my interest as much if I was just getting into this side of the game.
by Omigodtheykilledkenny » Sat May 09, 2015 9:22 am
The Dark Star Republic wrote:But - that proposal wasn't declared illegal under the old system, either.
by Ainocra » Sat May 09, 2015 12:32 pm
by Old Hope » Sat May 09, 2015 1:15 pm
Ainocra wrote:I really don't think we should get rid of categories, and I definitely wouldn't want to see riders.
would we also be able to attach riders to Repeals?
It would be more fluid, but in the end I think it's gonna create too much work.
Whose for a repeal of Napa that declares James Brown to be the godfather of all soul in perpetuity?
Imperium Anglorum wrote:The format wars are a waste of time.
by Ainocra » Sat May 09, 2015 5:41 pm
by Flibbleites » Sat May 09, 2015 5:56 pm
by Jean Pierre Trudeau » Sat May 09, 2015 9:29 pm
Mousebumples wrote: I think this sort of change would make the general assembly into more of "international issue authoring" rather than resolution writing. I don't want to speak for more active authors, but I don't know that that would engage my interest as much if I was just getting into this side of the game.
by Old Hope » Sun May 10, 2015 12:39 am
Jean Pierre Trudeau wrote:Mousebumples wrote: I think this sort of change would make the general assembly into more of "international issue authoring" rather than resolution writing. I don't want to speak for more active authors, but I don't know that that would engage my interest as much if I was just getting into this side of the game.
I agree.
Imperium Anglorum wrote:The format wars are a waste of time.
by Railana » Sun May 10, 2015 7:18 am
Mousebumples wrote:I liked the existing category system because it helped me focus my ideas and thoughts and write what I felt were more effective proposals.
Mousebumples wrote:I think this sort of change would make the general assembly into more of "international issue authoring" rather than resolution writing. I don't want to speak for more active authors, but I don't know that that would engage my interest as much if I was just getting into this side of the game.
by Charlotte Ryberg » Sun May 10, 2015 11:49 am
by The Dark Star Republic » Sun May 10, 2015 11:52 am
Charlotte Ryberg wrote:Proposal riding is not my cup of tea for sake of simplicity: by all means the stats system gets my support, but proposal authors should then be asked to keep to the topic and not be misleading.
by Knootoss » Sun May 10, 2015 10:57 pm
by Reploid Productions » Sun May 10, 2015 11:05 pm
[violet] wrote:Maybe we could power our new search engine from the sexual tension between you two.
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