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by Arumdaum » Wed May 06, 2015 10:01 pm
by Arumdaum » Wed May 06, 2015 10:32 pm
Sabara wrote:Yay for worldbuilding!
(And I'm guessing Jeongmi is on the same status in Tiandi as 'murica?)
by Arumdaum » Thu May 07, 2015 1:19 am
by Toishima » Thu May 07, 2015 1:51 am
by Arumdaum » Thu May 07, 2015 6:11 am
by Sabara » Thu May 07, 2015 4:48 pm
Arumdaum wrote:http://i.imgur.com/gtNzIip.png
^ Made a map for continent names.
Qiongzhou 窮州/穷州
Zhongzhou 中州
Youzhou 優州/优州
Yongzhou 永州
Qingzhou 清州
Thoughts?
Toishima wrote:Toishima could be one of those nations nobody likes but everyone has to work with because of their control over the Sea of Toishima (Needs a more neutral name) and military power. Our past as rampaging imperialists would definitely play a major role in straining ties.
Another idea I had was that at a time the Greater Empire encompassed a massive area worldwide and was itself the world superpower, the downfall being similar to the fall of the British Empire after WW2, allowing Jeongmi and the other (now larger) nations to claim the top spots in recent centuries.
by Arumdaum » Thu May 07, 2015 5:13 pm
Toishima wrote:Kibetsu and I have come to an agreement that modern Kibetsu was indeed a former Toishiman colony, with independence granted through a Japonic-only referendum that left it as a constitutional monarchy, though later this would be overturned for them to become the republic they are today.
Korean dialects in Chosen should not be a major problem because for the past century they were not allowed to speak or write the language, and only in recent times these laws were repealed, so the main language would be Japanese/Toishiman. Chosen would be something like the theoretical outcome of a successful Japanese invasion of Korea and subsequent Japanese control for centuries, though on a smaller scale. This of course would cause problems with Jeongmi, and perhaps pressure in modern times was what led to the repealing of those archaic laws.
Toishima could be one of those nations nobody likes but everyone has to work with because of their control over the Sea of Toishima (Needs a more neutral name) and military power. Our past as rampaging imperialists would definitely play a major role in straining ties.
Another idea I had was that at a time the Greater Empire encompassed a massive area worldwide and was itself the world superpower, the downfall being similar to the fall of the British Empire after WW2, allowing Jeongmi and the other (now larger) nations to claim the top spots in recent centuries.
Sabara wrote:I like it! It further cements the authenticity of an Asian centered region, unlike Lucerna where all the different continents were named a bit haphazardly.
I'm also thinking that Shenguo would be the somewhat more liberal counterpart of Jeongmi, with a smaller military and more pacifist leanings. (Basically relying on the larger and more powerful nation for protection from undesirables like Toishima, and Zhouran depending on how he forms the politics of his nation).
by Arumdaum » Thu May 07, 2015 5:19 pm
Sabara wrote:Toishima wrote:Toishima could be one of those nations nobody likes but everyone has to work with because of their control over the Sea of Toishima (Needs a more neutral name) and military power. Our past as rampaging imperialists would definitely play a major role in straining ties.
Another idea I had was that at a time the Greater Empire encompassed a massive area worldwide and was itself the world superpower, the downfall being similar to the fall of the British Empire after WW2, allowing Jeongmi and the other (now larger) nations to claim the top spots in recent centuries.
@Toishima, would your nation contest my chain of islands in the Sea of _?
I'm thinking that this region would be considered a sore-point in a heavily contested rivalry between the two colonial powers.
by Sabara » Thu May 07, 2015 5:26 pm
by Arumdaum » Thu May 07, 2015 11:11 pm
by Toishima » Fri May 08, 2015 2:20 am
by Arumdaum » Fri May 08, 2015 4:52 am
by Zhouran » Fri May 08, 2015 5:05 am
Arumdaum wrote:I think Arumdaum would have been heavily interested historically - my north is blocked by ice and I need to pass the area if I want to access the rest of the world by sea.
SO MAKE THAT THREE
Toishima wrote:There will definitely be many island disputes; I accept them all.
by Arumdaum » Fri May 08, 2015 5:09 am
Zhouran wrote:So wait, are you saying that my nation's coast is surrounded by frozen water?
I actually approve of that. As for the Sea of ___, my nation wouldn't have much of an interest until the industrialization age. So make that four I guess...
by Arumdaum » Fri May 08, 2015 5:22 am
Zhouran wrote:Arum, I saw your thread at the offsite forum.
Is Jeongmi the America of Tiandi? Also, how did Jeongmi secure its position as a superpower?
by Zhouran » Fri May 08, 2015 5:27 am
Arumdaum wrote:Zhouran wrote:Arum, I saw your thread at the offsite forum.
Is Jeongmi the America of Tiandi? Also, how did Jeongmi secure its position as a superpower?
I was thinking that Jeongmi would possess influence on a level similar to that of the United States'.
Probably a good amount of human and mineral resources, a favorable geography, leeching off the blood of colonies, and $$$$$$$. Of course, the region was really created only a few days ago, so not much has been fleshed out yet. I still need to work out specifics.
by Arumdaum » Fri May 08, 2015 5:32 am
Zhouran wrote:Arumdaum wrote:I was thinking that Jeongmi would possess influence on a level similar to that of the United States'.
Probably a good amount of human and mineral resources, a favorable geography, leeching off the blood of colonies, and $$$$$$$. Of course, the region was really created only a few days ago, so not much has been fleshed out yet. I still need to work out specifics.
Ok.
Hey, do you think Jeongmi and Zhouran had been trading with each other since early times? Our nations aren't really far apart. This early trade would shape the relations between the two.
by Zhouran » Fri May 08, 2015 5:37 am
Arumdaum wrote:We're around 1500 km apart, so a lot of it may be indirect, but I still think that we would have done a significant amount of trade from early on. What have you thought Zhouran's history would be like so far?
by Zhouran » Fri May 08, 2015 5:39 am
Arumdaum wrote:What is Zhouran like in the 21st century, though?
by Arumdaum » Fri May 08, 2015 5:40 am
Zhouran wrote:Arumdaum wrote:We're around 1500 km apart, so a lot of it may be indirect, but I still think that we would have done a significant amount of trade from early on. What have you thought Zhouran's history would be like so far?
Mmmmhhh.... I'm not fully sure yet. All I have in mind is Zhouran's early start and industrialization age.
Also, I was thinking of having our own version of the Silk Road that goes from your nation to my nation. The only thing is that we need more nations between us.
Yeah! That seems alright. People could apply to join the region on the NS forums, and then apply for a map position here.
I'm just worried that it might bother people to have to make two applications just to join a region.
However, what would we ask from people? RP and Wiki examples?
edit: Actually, I think I have an idea. We could have people make applications for nations on the NS forums, but require them to repost them here, so we can easily check who's been accepted with what stats.
edit2: I remember that me running RP regions began with my Alternate World/History RPs in 2011. I made RPs in F7 (back when PT2M didn't exist), and after talking about making a region, people followed me there.
Unfortunately, the problem is that nowadays everyone is making those kinds of RPs instead of just me, and we won't get that much attention. It'd also further detract attention from this RP region.
by Toishima » Fri May 08, 2015 5:59 am
Zhouran wrote:I actually approve of that. As for the Sea of ___, my nation wouldn't have much of an interest until the industrialization age. So make that four I guess...
Zhouran wrote:Is it just territorial disputes or does it involved resources?
by Zhouran » Fri May 08, 2015 6:28 am
Toishima wrote:Zhouran wrote:I actually approve of that. As for the Sea of ___, my nation wouldn't have much of an interest until the industrialization age. So make that four I guess...
All aboard the Sea of Toishima train~
Water guns on Coast Guard ships loaded and ready!Zhouran wrote:Is it just territorial disputes or does it involved resources?
Territory, mostly, though perhaps there could be gas or oil reserved below some of the islands, plus ever-present fishing grounds. Either way we can expect a South China Sea situation but with strong powers facing off instead of smaller countries vs PRChina.
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