Illegal Script Usage

[Amuaplye]

Following recent reports, investigations have revealed that both The Black Riders and The Land Of Kings And Emperors have been using an illegal recruitment script, and as such both regions have been banned from all telegram recruiting for 3 months.

Telegram recruiting offers recruiters three channels: TG Stamps (which you have to buy), API (which you can use scripts for), and Manual (sending 1-to-1 TGs in-game, with or without a TG template). These are balanced so that Manual recruiters aren't squeezed out by Stamp buyers and API bots: in practical terms, this means that recruitment messages sent Manually tend arrive a bit faster than via Stamps and the API, because there are fewer of them.

It is absolutely prohibited by the Script Rules to use a script to fake manual recruitment, and the only reason for doing so is to cheat the game and disadvantage legitimate recruiters.

Both The Black Riders and The Land of Kings and Emperors have been using an illegal script that faked Manual recruitment for a sustained period of time. This script was developed with the DOS player Anur-Sanur/Frak.

As punishment, both The Black Riders and The Land of Kings and Emperors have been banned from all telegram recruiting for a period of 3 months. This includes recruiting via API, manual telegrams and stamps*. The punishment has been enacted already by the administrators and starts today. Any attempt to evade this block (for example by recruiting for 'proxy regions') will result in an extension of the block by 1 month per attempt, as well as severe punishment for all players involved.

The player 'Bob Moran' has had all his nations deleted as punishment for using this script and for working with the DOS player Anur-Sanur/Frak, and we are currently considering DOS status for him as well. Bob Moran is recommended to contact us as soon as possible to explain his actions, and to post a public apology for his rules violations, or he will not be allowed to continue to use this site.

If you have questions, they may be asked in this thread. As ever, gloating is prohibited and will result in warnings.

*The Black Riders currently have a Stamp recruitment TG in the queue; this will be allowed to run its course, which should be done in approximately 2-3 days.

What did the script do?

[Arctriul]

How many young nations affected by their tag raiding are going to be done for gloating? A lot. Moderation team will be taking this into consideration - right?

I never thought I'd see this - although I am in no way upset to see this happen. Of course I'm upset seeing the home of one of my favourite people on this site now hanging in the balance however other then that - this is good.

[Voltrovia]

Maybe the ensuing chaos and possible destruction of the region in its present form might give some of TBR's members an inkling of what they've done to others on hundreds of occasions. It might even make some people think.

Noting here that we speak now about one region, not the organisation, regions can be created and destroyed within seconds, but organisations behind them not. This might even make some people think.

Hundreds and thousand regions will fall anyway.

No doubt.

I take it, in that case, that The Black Riders, who have treasured trophy acquisitions for so long, would hardly care if the home region was lost. That seems a somewhat convoluted rationale, to say the least.

[Reddit Gold]

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What did the script do?

I wish it prevented people from quoting entire OPs.

[Bhang Bhang Duc]

Excuse my ignorance folks, but are Bob and Halcones the same person? I only ask because Bob is cited here while Sedge cites Halcones for the same offence in the "Treason in TBR" thread.

[King Alexander]

This is extremely disheartening. Finding out that the LKE is being punished for something that they had no knowledge of it very sickening. If there were any justice, the Mod team would have contacted the founder nation and government to find out of Bob was acting alone or not. Such a sad day indeed.

[Rhoderberg]

That explains how they got into Sapphire.

Good riddance to scum, I guess.

[Sedgistan]

That explains how they got into Sapphire.

Good riddance to scum, I guess.

*** Warned for trolling/gloating ***

[Imperializt Russia]

That explains how they got into Sapphire.

Good riddance to scum, I guess.

Wasn't Mall heading up that particular operation?

[Sedgistan]

Excuse my ignorance folks, but are Bob and Halcones the same person? I only ask because Bob is cited here while Sedge cites Halcones for the same offence in the "Treason in TBR" thread.

Different people, though the offences are similar. Bob Moran was specifically responsible for operating the illegal script, which is why he is mentioned here and Halcones elsewhere.

[King Alexander]

Excuse my ignorance folks, but are Bob and Halcones the same person? I only ask because Bob is cited here while Sedge cites Halcones for the same offence in the "Treason in TBR" thread.

Different people, though the offences are similar. Bob Moran was specifically responsible for operating the illegal script, which is why he is mentioned here and Halcones elsewhere.

Might I ask why a region is being punished that had no knowledge of this?

[Rhoderberg]

That explains how they got into Sapphire.

Good riddance to scum, I guess.

Wasn't Mall heading up that particular operation?

Yeah.

I can't remember if he was a mod at the time, though.

[Imperializt Russia]

No, it was a bit before.
I remember because I went apoplectic when he got modship.

[Rhoderberg]

No, it was a bit before.
I remember because I went apoplectic when he got modship.

I can't blame you, I felt the same way.

I still don't agree with his modship, but that's neither here nor there.

[Sedgistan]

Different people, though the offences are similar. Bob Moran was specifically responsible for operating the illegal script, which is why he is mentioned here and Halcones elsewhere.

Might I ask why a region is being punished that had no knowledge of this?

The region has benefited from tens of thousands of recruitment telegrams being sent out illegally over a sustained period of time. That is why it is being punished.

[Sedgistan]

No, it was a bit before.
I remember because I went apoplectic when he got modship.

I can't blame you, I felt the same way.

I still don't agree with his modship, but that's neither here nor there.

That discussion is not relevant to this thread; please do not discuss it further here.

[-vak]

If working with a DOS player is such a grand offense, why were no punishments handed out in the Osiris coup attempt a couple of years ago, when Aeazer was knowingly invited in by Nev?

[Rhoderberg]

I can't blame you, I felt the same way.

I still don't agree with his modship, but that's neither here nor there.

That discussion is not relevant to this thread; please do not discuss it further here.

If you insist.

[Sedgistan]

If working with a DOS player is such a grand offense, why were no punishments handed out in the Osiris coup attempt a couple of years ago, when Aeazer was knowingly invited in by Nev?

I'm not aware of us having been informed of this.

[King Alexander]

Might I ask why a region is being punished that had no knowledge of this?

The region has benefited from tens of thousands of recruitment telegrams being sent out illegally over a sustained period of time. That is why it is being punished.

I still don't think it right. For a region to be punished for something they had no knowledge of and did not approve of seems rather harsh don't ya think?

[-vak]

If working with a DOS player is such a grand offense, why were no punishments handed out in the Osiris coup attempt a couple of years ago, when Aeazer was knowingly invited in by Nev?

I'm not aware of us having been informed of this.

Large-scale discussion was very prevalent of the topic in the Osiris coup threads, which I thought you were part of. Aeazer's nation was deleted, but that's it.

[Sedgistan]

I'm not aware of us having been informed of this.

Large-scale discussion was very prevalent of the topic in the Osiris coup threads, which I thought you were part of. Aeazer's nation was deleted, but that's it.

I do vaguely recall that, but I don't remember anyone reporting a regular player for inviting him onto the site. If they had, we certainly would've looked into that.

[-vak]

The region has benefited from tens of thousands of recruitment telegrams being sent out illegally over a sustained period of time. That is why it is being punished.

I still don't think it right. For a region to be punished for something they had no knowledge of and did not approve of seems rather harsh don't ya think?

Must say I agree: benefitting from crime is not the same as committing it. A person who owed a murder victim money would not be punished for his death, if they were innocent.

[Imperializt Russia]

I still don't think it right. For a region to be punished for something they had no knowledge of and did not approve of seems rather harsh don't ya think?

Must say I agree: benefitting from crime is not the same as committing it. A person who owed a murder victim money would not be punished for his death, if they were innocent.

That's a very poor analogy.
It would be more correct to suggest that a person's will had been changed to benefit a person, by a third party, then killed by that third party.

[-vak]

Large-scale discussion was very prevalent of the topic in the Osiris coup threads, which I thought you were part of. Aeazer's nation was deleted, but that's it.

I do vaguely recall that, but I don't remember anyone reporting a regular player for inviting him onto the site. If they had, we certainly would've looked into that.

I don't think it was ever an official mod report, however I do think that their were alegations from many in the region that Nev invited Aeazer into the region. However, I think a lot of the newer players were actually somewhat unsure of the fact he was DOS, (thanks to the fact that the mods had allowed him to attain a pop in excess of 8 billion), so many may have worked with him unknowingly.