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Who would you vote for?

Labour
342
20%
Conservatives
346
20%
Ukip
394
23%
Greens
246
14%
Liberal Democrats
149
9%
SNP
77
5%
Plaid Cymru
32
2%
Respect
35
2%
Other (please state)
79
5%
 
Total votes : 1700

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Arkolon
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Founded: May 04, 2013
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Postby Arkolon » Thu Apr 16, 2015 2:53 pm

Imperializt Russia wrote:I probably should be, and I should have watched the last debate.

But all it will do is make me angry.
I'm fully committed in who I will vote for. I see no need to get angry over what is, for me, a forgone conclusion.
That said, I spend my life on NSG so I guess I'm a hypocrite.

And who will you be voting for?
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Imperializt Russia
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Founded: Jun 03, 2011
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Thu Apr 16, 2015 2:57 pm

Labour.

I'm ideologically opposed to the Conservatives and in FPTP, voting for anyone but those two is broadly a waste.
Applied for a postal vote today, too.
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Pesda
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Founded: Jun 26, 2010
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Postby Pesda » Thu Apr 16, 2015 3:09 pm

Imperializt Russia wrote:Labour.

I'm ideologically opposed to the Conservatives and in FPTP, voting for anyone but those two is broadly a waste.
Applied for a postal vote today, too.

If you keep voting labour cause they aren't Tories they'll take you for granted like for the last 80 years.
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So does semen.
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thats cool i like ireland
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Green Ham wrote:
Pesda wrote:Making someone happy.

I advise lubricant if that's your objective. Or spit.
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Left -5.75 Lib -6.05
Why I voted for Plaid Cymru
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Alyakia
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 18422
Founded: Jul 12, 2011
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Postby Alyakia » Thu Apr 16, 2015 3:11 pm

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Pesda wrote:During when he was accusing the BBC of bias by getting an audience that seemed not to be so pro ukip.

This doesn't really suggest he's insulting the audience.
It sounds like either fishing for a paper-worthy soundbyte of establishment bias or a persecution complex.


he said they don't understand the issues and are a bunch of lefties. that's pretty insulting which is why everyone booed and the guys with the little pads measuring their reactions all pressed 1 for "fuck you"
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Imperializt Russia
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Founded: Jun 03, 2011
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Thu Apr 16, 2015 3:11 pm

Pesda wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:Labour.

I'm ideologically opposed to the Conservatives and in FPTP, voting for anyone but those two is broadly a waste.
Applied for a postal vote today, too.

If you keep voting labour cause they aren't Tories they'll take you for granted like for the last 80 years.

Well so long as we have FPTP there isn't an alternative to that.
Nuclear power maximalist, radiation specialist. Now, I didn't say expert, did I?
Cat dad, socialist, angry man. Playing a game of Pong (1972) between the left-auth and left-lib quadrants of the Political Compass. ex-Samozaryadnyastan.

Angry at the world and highly depressed about it. It's a cruel, dark, cold place.
Lamadia wrote:dangerous socialist attitude
Also,
Imperializt Russia wrote:I'm English, you tit.

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Greater vakolicci haven
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Posts: 18668
Founded: May 09, 2014
Anarchy

Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Thu Apr 16, 2015 3:15 pm

Even UKIP realise Nigel did badly.

After the last debate (and I mean within 5 minutes), they sent out a message to all their members asking what they thought. Nothing like that this time.
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Pesda
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Founded: Jun 26, 2010
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Postby Pesda » Thu Apr 16, 2015 3:15 pm

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Pesda wrote:If you keep voting labour cause they aren't Tories they'll take you for granted like for the last 80 years.

Well so long as we have FPTP there isn't an alternative to that.

We do here in Wales and you in England could too.
St George of England wrote:
Pesda wrote:Alchohol has a funny taste
So does semen.
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Neo-Sincostan wrote:Nah mate I live in Scotland. Or, as I dislike relating it to, the UK.
thats cool i like ireland
Interstellar Britannia wrote:And indeed, cavemen are fully capable of writing books. Have you heard of the Communist Manifesto perchance?
Green Ham wrote:
Pesda wrote:Making someone happy.

I advise lubricant if that's your objective. Or spit.
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Why I voted for Plaid Cymru
Now a student... In England

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Imperializt Russia
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Founded: Jun 03, 2011
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Thu Apr 16, 2015 3:21 pm

Pesda wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:Well so long as we have FPTP there isn't an alternative to that.

We do here in Wales and you in England could too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kin ... 28Wales%29
Apparently totally not.
Nuclear power maximalist, radiation specialist. Now, I didn't say expert, did I?
Cat dad, socialist, angry man. Playing a game of Pong (1972) between the left-auth and left-lib quadrants of the Political Compass. ex-Samozaryadnyastan.

Angry at the world and highly depressed about it. It's a cruel, dark, cold place.
Lamadia wrote:dangerous socialist attitude
Also,
Imperializt Russia wrote:I'm English, you tit.

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Malgrave
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Founded: Mar 29, 2011
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Postby Malgrave » Thu Apr 16, 2015 3:22 pm

I'd like Natalie Bennett to be more assertive in future debates but I think she got across the anti-austerity plan of the party reasonably well. I'm pleased she was able to get across the parties plan on re-nationalising the health service, creating energy efficiency and well-insulated social housing and wiping student debt + scrapping the tuition fee during the course of the debate and the SNP and Plaid managed to work with Bennett to push the anti-austerity and anti-trident message forward.

I also enjoyed watching Farage getting destroyed after insulting the audience so I am a very happy Green tonight.
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Pesda
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Founded: Jun 26, 2010
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Postby Pesda » Thu Apr 16, 2015 3:26 pm

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Pesda wrote:We do here in Wales and you in England could too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kin ... 28Wales%29
Apparently totally not.

Three plaid cymru seats. We don't need labour to stop the Tories
St George of England wrote:
Pesda wrote:Alchohol has a funny taste
So does semen.
Professional Leaders wrote:
Neo-Sincostan wrote:Nah mate I live in Scotland. Or, as I dislike relating it to, the UK.
thats cool i like ireland
Interstellar Britannia wrote:And indeed, cavemen are fully capable of writing books. Have you heard of the Communist Manifesto perchance?
Green Ham wrote:
Pesda wrote:Making someone happy.

I advise lubricant if that's your objective. Or spit.
Kheil HaAvir wrote:i sleep with a poster above
Welsh speaking Plaid Cymru and SNP supporter.
Left -5.75 Lib -6.05
Why I voted for Plaid Cymru
Now a student... In England

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Caltarania
Postmaster-General
 
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Founded: Feb 01, 2013
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Postby Caltarania » Thu Apr 16, 2015 3:26 pm

I'M FROM KYLARIS, AND I'M HERE TO HELP!

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Imperializt Russia
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Founded: Jun 03, 2011
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Thu Apr 16, 2015 3:27 pm

Pesda wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kin ... 28Wales%29
Apparently totally not.

Three plaid cymru seats. We don't need labour to stop the Tories

Because Labour took 26 of the forty seats.
Nuclear power maximalist, radiation specialist. Now, I didn't say expert, did I?
Cat dad, socialist, angry man. Playing a game of Pong (1972) between the left-auth and left-lib quadrants of the Political Compass. ex-Samozaryadnyastan.

Angry at the world and highly depressed about it. It's a cruel, dark, cold place.
Lamadia wrote:dangerous socialist attitude
Also,
Imperializt Russia wrote:I'm English, you tit.

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Pesda
Minister
 
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Founded: Jun 26, 2010
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Postby Pesda » Thu Apr 16, 2015 3:31 pm

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Pesda wrote:Three plaid cymru seats. We don't need labour to stop the Tories

Because Labour took 26 of the forty seats.

What's that to do with the fact that we have an alternative to the labour and Tories?
St George of England wrote:
Pesda wrote:Alchohol has a funny taste
So does semen.
Professional Leaders wrote:
Neo-Sincostan wrote:Nah mate I live in Scotland. Or, as I dislike relating it to, the UK.
thats cool i like ireland
Interstellar Britannia wrote:And indeed, cavemen are fully capable of writing books. Have you heard of the Communist Manifesto perchance?
Green Ham wrote:
Pesda wrote:Making someone happy.

I advise lubricant if that's your objective. Or spit.
Kheil HaAvir wrote:i sleep with a poster above
Welsh speaking Plaid Cymru and SNP supporter.
Left -5.75 Lib -6.05
Why I voted for Plaid Cymru
Now a student... In England

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Britanno 2
Diplomat
 
Posts: 611
Founded: Apr 08, 2015
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Postby Britanno 2 » Thu Apr 16, 2015 3:31 pm

Malgrave wrote: re-nationalising the health service

When 6% of the NHS is to do (didn't know how to put it) with private involvement (% more than 2010), how is not nationalised.
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Imperializt Russia
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Founded: Jun 03, 2011
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Thu Apr 16, 2015 3:33 pm

Pesda wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:Because Labour took 26 of the forty seats.

What's that to do with the fact that we have an alternative to the labour and Tories?

I thought you meant an alternative that mattered.
Nuclear power maximalist, radiation specialist. Now, I didn't say expert, did I?
Cat dad, socialist, angry man. Playing a game of Pong (1972) between the left-auth and left-lib quadrants of the Political Compass. ex-Samozaryadnyastan.

Angry at the world and highly depressed about it. It's a cruel, dark, cold place.
Lamadia wrote:dangerous socialist attitude
Also,
Imperializt Russia wrote:I'm English, you tit.

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Pesda
Minister
 
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Founded: Jun 26, 2010
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Postby Pesda » Thu Apr 16, 2015 3:36 pm

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Pesda wrote:What's that to do with the fact that we have an alternative to the labour and Tories?

I thought you meant an alternative that mattered.

What's your idea of "matter?"
St George of England wrote:
Pesda wrote:Alchohol has a funny taste
So does semen.
Professional Leaders wrote:
Neo-Sincostan wrote:Nah mate I live in Scotland. Or, as I dislike relating it to, the UK.
thats cool i like ireland
Interstellar Britannia wrote:And indeed, cavemen are fully capable of writing books. Have you heard of the Communist Manifesto perchance?
Green Ham wrote:
Pesda wrote:Making someone happy.

I advise lubricant if that's your objective. Or spit.
Kheil HaAvir wrote:i sleep with a poster above
Welsh speaking Plaid Cymru and SNP supporter.
Left -5.75 Lib -6.05
Why I voted for Plaid Cymru
Now a student... In England

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Malgrave
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Founded: Mar 29, 2011
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Postby Malgrave » Thu Apr 16, 2015 3:38 pm

Britanno 2 wrote:
Malgrave wrote: re-nationalising the health service

When 6% of the NHS is to do (didn't know how to put it) with private involvement (% more than 2010), how is not nationalised.


I'm supportive of efforts to remove this private involvement from the NHS entirely and I constitute that to be a re-nationalisation of the NHS.
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Imperializt Russia
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Thu Apr 16, 2015 3:38 pm

Pesda wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:I thought you meant an alternative that mattered.

What's your idea of "matter?"

A third party that can actually challenge the two main parties.
Under FPTP, that doesn't exist.

On the basis that 86 of the 650 seats were not won by either the Conservatives or Labour at the last election, you could suggest I have an alternative. I don't.
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Cat dad, socialist, angry man. Playing a game of Pong (1972) between the left-auth and left-lib quadrants of the Political Compass. ex-Samozaryadnyastan.

Angry at the world and highly depressed about it. It's a cruel, dark, cold place.
Lamadia wrote:dangerous socialist attitude
Also,
Imperializt Russia wrote:I'm English, you tit.

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Dejanic
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Postby Dejanic » Thu Apr 16, 2015 3:40 pm

I love seeing UKIP slowly wither and die. Farage lashing out at the audience in an extremely paranoid and almost manic fashion was simply beautiful. UKIP and Farage are getting desperate, and I hope their activists and less well mannered supporters get more and more loud and angry as their party continues to drown in the ocean of democracy.
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Pesda
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Postby Pesda » Thu Apr 16, 2015 3:41 pm

"We have no alternative" doesn't make sense if you got a party that got 11%. Not that much but it exists and will get stronger unless you allow labour to take your vote for granted.
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Pesda wrote:Alchohol has a funny taste
So does semen.
Professional Leaders wrote:
Neo-Sincostan wrote:Nah mate I live in Scotland. Or, as I dislike relating it to, the UK.
thats cool i like ireland
Interstellar Britannia wrote:And indeed, cavemen are fully capable of writing books. Have you heard of the Communist Manifesto perchance?
Green Ham wrote:
Pesda wrote:Making someone happy.

I advise lubricant if that's your objective. Or spit.
Kheil HaAvir wrote:i sleep with a poster above
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Left -5.75 Lib -6.05
Why I voted for Plaid Cymru
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Imperializt Russia
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Thu Apr 16, 2015 3:43 pm

Pesda wrote:"We have no alternative" doesn't make sense if you got a party that got 11%. Not that much but it exists and will get stronger unless you allow labour to take your vote for granted.

The three parties ahead of it got 20, 26 and 36% of the vote respectively.

It's not a viable alternative.
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Angry at the world and highly depressed about it. It's a cruel, dark, cold place.
Lamadia wrote:dangerous socialist attitude
Also,
Imperializt Russia wrote:I'm English, you tit.

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Paper Sprite
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Founded: Apr 14, 2015
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Postby Paper Sprite » Thu Apr 16, 2015 3:43 pm

Nicola Sturgeon is still on top form. God I love that woman haha

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Pesda
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Postby Pesda » Thu Apr 16, 2015 3:46 pm

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Pesda wrote:What's your idea of "matter?"

A third party that can actually challenge the two main parties.
Under FPTP, that doesn't exist.

On the basis that 86 of the 650 seats were not won by either the Conservatives or Labour at the last election, you could suggest I have an alternative. I don't.

I said we have an alternative in Wales, where in many parts we have more support than at least one of the two" main" parties. You can only have an alternative I'd you build one.
St George of England wrote:
Pesda wrote:Alchohol has a funny taste
So does semen.
Professional Leaders wrote:
Neo-Sincostan wrote:Nah mate I live in Scotland. Or, as I dislike relating it to, the UK.
thats cool i like ireland
Interstellar Britannia wrote:And indeed, cavemen are fully capable of writing books. Have you heard of the Communist Manifesto perchance?
Green Ham wrote:
Pesda wrote:Making someone happy.

I advise lubricant if that's your objective. Or spit.
Kheil HaAvir wrote:i sleep with a poster above
Welsh speaking Plaid Cymru and SNP supporter.
Left -5.75 Lib -6.05
Why I voted for Plaid Cymru
Now a student... In England

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Atlanticatia
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Postby Atlanticatia » Thu Apr 16, 2015 3:47 pm

Dejanic wrote:I love seeing UKIP slowly wither and die. Farage lashing out at the audience in an extremely paranoid and almost manic fashion was simply beautiful. UKIP and Farage are getting desperate, and I hope their activists and less well mannered supporters get more and more loud and angry as their party continues to drown in the ocean of democracy.


I like how almost no one claps after he goes on some manic rant about too many Poles and brown people invading the country.
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Thu Apr 16, 2015 3:49 pm

Dejanic wrote:I love seeing UKIP slowly wither and die. Farage lashing out at the audience in an extremely paranoid and almost manic fashion was simply beautiful. UKIP and Farage are getting desperate, and I hope their activists and less well mannered supporters get more and more loud and angry as their party continues to drown in the ocean of democracy.

Ukip activists are not all like the people you see on the TV.
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