Drop Your Pants wrote:I thought i'd care more about waking up in TRR. But I don't give a rats arse. I'm just disappointed with Feux.
Yo Stu don't waste my fucking time brah undo that shite
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by A mean old man » Sat Apr 11, 2015 8:33 pm
Drop Your Pants wrote:I thought i'd care more about waking up in TRR. But I don't give a rats arse. I'm just disappointed with Feux.
by Christian Democrats » Sat Apr 11, 2015 8:38 pm
Leo Tolstoy wrote:Wrong does not cease to be wrong because the majority share in it.
by Neo Kervoskia » Sat Apr 11, 2015 8:51 pm
Punk Daddy wrote:The implications of AMOM's OP are quite disturbing for the rest of the world. AMOM said:If you think for yourself and avoid the bias of organizations that view the NPO as a threat to their capacity to control other regions from afar you would realize that no, this is not at all hypocrisy. This is not backpedaling on the NPO's ideal of sovereignty and productivity within the GCRs. This is a step forward and a step towards a new age of GCR power and prosperity. Let me show you how.
The Persona of the Modern NPO; A Reintroduction
I abandoned my position as an NPO Senator for the sake of my dedication to The East Pacific, but let's face it: I'm NPO through and through. I always was, I still am, and I always will be. Everything I ever did in my career and in The East Pacific, even, was in the spirit of The New Pacific Order. I was NPO before I knew it even existed. And I may be able to leave the Senate but I cannot dissolve the friendships that emerged during my time therein between myself and like-minded individuals. I cannot deny the outlook of NS politics that was reinforced within my persona during that time.
You might ask: how is this possible? How could I be NPO before I knew what it was? You might accuse me of feigning loyalty to TEP or pulling a stunt by leaving the Senate in The Pacific yet remaining "loyal to the NPO;" fear not, for your cynical gut reaction misguides you. The modern NPO is less of a centralized government than it is a mindset: a fundamental, guiding view on the realities of Nationstates politics that regional allegiance cannot ignore.
Emphasis added. It appears that we're all NPO we just don't know it until the NPO either tells us or we ourselves are enlightened to see that the NPO's ideology is the ideology we should all follow. Excuse me while I throw away my vomit bag.
What we have learned from AMOM's statement about the NPO is that they are seeking to exert as much influence as they can within GCR's. GCR sovereignty for the NPO means nothing, yes I said means nothing. Why? From AMOM's comments you can see that the NPO will use any justification to pursue any goal it so desires, Francoist ideology be damned.
That's a scary thought for the rest of us.
by Lazmac » Sat Apr 11, 2015 9:21 pm
Yao wrote:It's not wholly surprising that the most vocal of the opposition consists of players who seldom contributed to Laz, like Cameron Romefeller.
by The South Polish Union » Sat Apr 11, 2015 9:29 pm
Neo Kervoskia wrote:Punk Daddy wrote:The implications of AMOM's OP are quite disturbing for the rest of the world. AMOM said:
Emphasis added. It appears that we're all NPO we just don't know it until the NPO either tells us or we ourselves are enlightened to see that the NPO's ideology is the ideology we should all follow. Excuse me while I throw away my vomit bag.
What we have learned from AMOM's statement about the NPO is that they are seeking to exert as much influence as they can within GCR's. GCR sovereignty for the NPO means nothing, yes I said means nothing. Why? From AMOM's comments you can see that the NPO will use any justification to pursue any goal it so desires, Francoist ideology be damned.
That's a scary thought for the rest of us.
This is perfectly in keeping with Francoism.
At the heart of Francoism is the class struggle between Feederites and Userites. The only way to empower the Feederites is through perpetual revolution. First, though, there must be class consciousness. Userites are everywhere and if regions are not conscious of the struggle before them, Userites will infiltrate every level of society and bend it to their will. When a government fails to keep the revolution alive, they have failed the people and instantly obliterate whatever mandate they may have believed they had. When that happens the Feederite class must rise against them and that's what's happened in Lazarus. There is a new vanguard party to defend the revolution and the Feederite class.
by Waldeck-Pyrmont » Sat Apr 11, 2015 10:41 pm
Neo Kervoskia wrote:Punk Daddy wrote:The implications of AMOM's OP are quite disturbing for the rest of the world. AMOM said:
Emphasis added. It appears that we're all NPO we just don't know it until the NPO either tells us or we ourselves are enlightened to see that the NPO's ideology is the ideology we should all follow. Excuse me while I throw away my vomit bag.
What we have learned from AMOM's statement about the NPO is that they are seeking to exert as much influence as they can within GCR's. GCR sovereignty for the NPO means nothing, yes I said means nothing. Why? From AMOM's comments you can see that the NPO will use any justification to pursue any goal it so desires, Francoist ideology be damned.
That's a scary thought for the rest of us.
This is perfectly in keeping with Francoism.
At the heart of Francoism is the class struggle between Feederites and Userites. The only way to empower the Feederites is through perpetual revolution. First, though, there must be class consciousness. Userites are everywhere and if regions are not conscious of the struggle before them, Userites will infiltrate every level of society and bend it to their will. When a government fails to keep the revolution alive, they have failed the people and instantly obliterate whatever mandate they may have believed they had. When that happens the Feederite class must rise against them and that's what's happened in Lazarus. There is a new vanguard party to defend the revolution and the Feederite class.
by Klaus Devestatorie » Sun Apr 12, 2015 12:17 am
A mean old man wrote:The participation of 94 Block in the recent festivities has generated concern among the general public; while 94 Block did indeed shut down Grand Central's forums during a period of inactivity therein (with back-ups of this forum on hand and a naïve plan for regional revival through scaring his regionmates back into activity), he has since apologized profusely for his mistake and moved forward in an honest career in Nationstates. Many who are currently flaunting his "forum destruction" (committed with differing intent from the stereotypical, malicious forum destroyer) are petty enemies of the NPO and/or of 94 Block's personally and are simply using menacing vibrations to twist others' opinions for underhanded purposes. Any who do not fit this mold are simply getting hung up on arbitrary formalities and should strongly consider revising their stance on the individual.
I'm sure that the reasonable people of the world will be able to forgive 94 Block for an offense committed in ignorance 3 years ago and acknowledge that he is not, in reality, a destructive influence but has an honest will to contribute and to build Lazarus into a successful and productive entity (and he does). Treaties like COPS were created for an honorable purpose; however, exceptions must be made for individuals who have changed their paths and proven their worth through years of good behavior. Let us take, for example, the exception made by Osiris for "Sector ZYX," who destroyed a colony of Unknown's forum six years ago. You don't see anyone chirping about that.
For the sake of arbitrary formalities, however, I suppose he can step outside and wait until a reasonable discussion can be had regarding his status. He's a good sport.
<Cormac> I'll take that as a no and proceed with my original plan to ignore you due to your absolute and total irrelevance.
<Cormac> Tell Unknown I hope it's enjoying its prolonged nap.
by Feux » Sun Apr 12, 2015 12:24 am
TheBestDudeInHistory wrote:Feux is what would happen if I had my shitposting physically removed, isolated, and permitted to become sentient on its own. And I mean that in the best way possible. Clearly I need to marry Feux.
by Gradea IV » Sun Apr 12, 2015 12:25 am
Caraani wrote:This is disgusting. I have seen a man puke and then lick his own puke to puke again, and it was less disgusting then this thing.
by Consular » Sun Apr 12, 2015 1:39 am
Lazmac wrote:Yao wrote:It's not wholly surprising that the most vocal of the opposition consists of players who seldom contributed to Laz, like Cameron Romefeller.
It's not wholly surprising that you're once again betraying a regional community that placed its trust in you, either, and a community that you largely were responsible for recruiting though you want to throw them under the bus as inactive non-contributors now, so I guess today is just full of non-surprises.
by RiderSyl » Sun Apr 12, 2015 2:33 am
by Frattastan II » Sun Apr 12, 2015 2:37 am
Ridersyl wrote:All of us would be generally better off right now if every member of the New Pacific Order was born into a life where they could have never accessed the internet.
<@Guy> well done, fuckhead.
* @Guy claps for frattastan
by Lazmac » Sun Apr 12, 2015 3:14 am
Klaus Devestatorie wrote:When I called bullshit on his lack of knowledge due to a very recent incident where Osiris closed relations with Ainur over 94 Block's presence, during which time we had an identical discussion, I recieved this reply;<Cormac> I'll take that as a no and proceed with my original plan to ignore you due to your absolute and total irrelevance.
<Cormac> Tell Unknown I hope it's enjoying its prolonged nap.
I congratulate the New Pacific Order for not backing down against moral outrage from hypocrites- the continued Stujenske-lead government in Lazarus has my endorsement and support.
by Pergamon » Sun Apr 12, 2015 3:55 am
by Drop Your Pants » Sun Apr 12, 2015 5:24 am
Pergamon wrote:You will be surprised even more. That's a promise.
by Frattastan II » Sun Apr 12, 2015 5:26 am
Neo Kervoskia wrote:This is perfectly in keeping with Francoism.
At the heart of Francoism is the class struggle between Feederites and Userites. The only way to empower the Feederites is through perpetual revolution. First, though, there must be class consciousness. Userites are everywhere and if regions are not conscious of the struggle before them, Userites will infiltrate every level of society and bend it to their will. When a government fails to keep the revolution alive, they have failed the people and instantly obliterate whatever mandate they may have believed they had. When that happens the Feederite class must rise against them and that's what's happened in Lazarus. There is a new vanguard party to defend the revolution and the Feederite class.
<@Guy> well done, fuckhead.
* @Guy claps for frattastan
by Klaus Devestatorie » Sun Apr 12, 2015 5:50 am
Lazmac wrote:Klaus Devestatorie wrote:When I called bullshit on his lack of knowledge due to a very recent incident where Osiris closed relations with Ainur over 94 Block's presence, during which time we had an identical discussion, I recieved this reply;
I congratulate the New Pacific Order for not backing down against moral outrage from hypocrites- the continued Stujenske-lead government in Lazarus has my endorsement and support.
Blah, blah, blah. Out of context quote is out of context, and you know it.
Speaking of forum destruction, will the Lazarus forum maintained by Senator Feux be turned back on at some point, or will it remain permanently inaccessible to the community in violation of the COPS treaty?
by Todd McCloud » Sun Apr 12, 2015 5:59 am
The two classes recognised by Francoist Thought are the Feederites, who are the nations of their respective Pacific and seek to harness and work with the means of production (namely the Pacific region itself), and the Userites, who seek to exploit its fruits; by exploiting both the nations of the Pacific and the political structure set up within it to further their own political, military and social power.
Userite regions infiltrate and infect the Pacific, corrupting Feederites into puppets to the point that the Pacific is nothing on its own, with no power or will of its own; becoming a slave to the Userite region it entered into contact with the contrary intention of furthering its own power and influence.
by Nephmir » Sun Apr 12, 2015 6:00 am
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by Lazmac » Sun Apr 12, 2015 6:00 am
Klaus Devestatorie wrote:The quote is well within context and I've got the logs to prove it.
Klaus Devestatorie wrote:Turning off the w11/Lazarus/ forums is a grey area- COPS is too poorly written to rule definitively on the matter without an answer to the question of who the real Lazarene government is, and the Zetaboards terms of use are friendly to Feux, not you.
by Frattastan II » Sun Apr 12, 2015 6:08 am
Todd McCloud wrote:Essentially, the NPO has become their own enemy in this instance. They have become the "Userites" they sought to fight.
<@Guy> well done, fuckhead.
* @Guy claps for frattastan
by Punk Daddy » Sun Apr 12, 2015 6:10 am
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