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Postby Fionnuala_Saoirse » Thu Mar 26, 2015 1:58 pm

Conscentia wrote:
Fionnuala_Saoirse wrote:whine whine whine.
"It's not my fault I made assertions of fact without any foundation to them"
Toddle on.

Insulting people is against forum rules.


Take it to the mods if you felt insulted.
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Postby Napkiraly » Thu Mar 26, 2015 2:01 pm

Fionnuala_Saoirse wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:Or maybe it's just a mistake that was made? I know completely shocking. Truly, very shocking.


I'm sorry I didn't realise you had a second account, Conscentia. I'll stick to speaking with the Conscentia one.

Free forum lass, I'm allowed to butt in and point out doing the whole "snarky sarcastic" schtick upon someone recognising their error and changing their stance is the sign of being a child.

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Postby Benian Republic » Thu Mar 26, 2015 2:02 pm

Napkiraly wrote:
Fionnuala_Saoirse wrote:
I'm sorry I didn't realise you had a second account, Conscentia. I'll stick to speaking with the Conscentia one.

Free forum lass, I'm allowed to butt in and point out doing the whole "snarky sarcastic" schtick upon someone recognising their error and changing their stance is the sign of being a child.

Please continue.
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Postby Fionnuala_Saoirse » Thu Mar 26, 2015 2:02 pm

Napkiraly wrote:
Fionnuala_Saoirse wrote:
I'm sorry I didn't realise you had a second account, Conscentia. I'll stick to speaking with the Conscentia one.

Free forum lass, I'm allowed to butt in and point out doing the whole "snarky sarcastic" schtick upon someone recognising their error and changing their stance is the sign of being a child.


You wound me.
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Postby Napkiraly » Thu Mar 26, 2015 2:14 pm

Fionnuala_Saoirse wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:Free forum lass, I'm allowed to butt in and point out doing the whole "snarky sarcastic" schtick upon someone recognising their error and changing their stance is the sign of being a child.


You wound me.

We'll call it the Sarcastic Thursday Agreement.

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Postby British Home Counties » Thu Mar 26, 2015 2:19 pm

Libacur wrote:Should the British Government allow a referendum like one in Scotland but by Sinn Fein for a United Ireland??? I'm sure a lot of Irish in the North and South want to see a united nation, instead of one ruled by the Brits.

Should Sinn Fein be allowed to be the SNP in an Irish Referendum?


More people have voted to stay with the UK in Northern Ireland than Falklanders decided to stay with the UK.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Thu Mar 26, 2015 2:21 pm

British Home Counties wrote:
Libacur wrote:Should the British Government allow a referendum like one in Scotland but by Sinn Fein for a United Ireland??? I'm sure a lot of Irish in the North and South want to see a united nation, instead of one ruled by the Brits.

Should Sinn Fein be allowed to be the SNP in an Irish Referendum?


More people have voted to stay with the UK in Northern Ireland than Falklanders decided to stay with the UK.

Because there are 2913 people on the Falklands compared to the 1.9 million people in Northern Ireland.

Obviously there are going to be more people here voting to stay apart of the UK than the falklands.
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Postby Napkiraly » Thu Mar 26, 2015 2:24 pm

British Home Counties wrote:
Libacur wrote:Should the British Government allow a referendum like one in Scotland but by Sinn Fein for a United Ireland??? I'm sure a lot of Irish in the North and South want to see a united nation, instead of one ruled by the Brits.

Should Sinn Fein be allowed to be the SNP in an Irish Referendum?


More people have voted to stay with the UK in Northern Ireland than Falklanders decided to stay with the UK.

That's because NI has more people. Percentage wise it'd be a different case.

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Postby British Home Counties » Thu Mar 26, 2015 2:24 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
British Home Counties wrote:
More people have voted to stay with the UK in Northern Ireland than Falklanders decided to stay with the UK.

Because there are 2913 people on the Falklands compared to the 1.9 million people in Northern Ireland.

Obviously there are going to be more people here voting to stay apart of the UK than the falklands.


In proportion not in absolute numbers obviously.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Thu Mar 26, 2015 2:25 pm

British Home Counties wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Because there are 2913 people on the Falklands compared to the 1.9 million people in Northern Ireland.

Obviously there are going to be more people here voting to stay apart of the UK than the falklands.


In proportion not in absolute numbers obviously.

In which case it would be the falklands considering all but two of them voted to stay in the UK last referendum.
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Postby Napkiraly » Thu Mar 26, 2015 2:26 pm

British Home Counties wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Because there are 2913 people on the Falklands compared to the 1.9 million people in Northern Ireland.

Obviously there are going to be more people here voting to stay apart of the UK than the falklands.


In proportion not in absolute numbers obviously.

Only 58.66% of the NI population voted in that referendum however.

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Postby Dragonir » Thu Mar 26, 2015 2:27 pm

Perhaps put all of the Catholic counties to Ireland and the protestant uns to the uk

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Thu Mar 26, 2015 2:28 pm

Dragonir wrote:Perhaps put all of the Catholic counties to Ireland and the protestant uns to the uk

They are all mixed.

There are not solely catholic or protestant counties.

And not all catholics are nationalists and in favour of joining the south and not all protestants are in favour of being in the uk or unionist.
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Postby Fionnuala_Saoirse » Thu Mar 26, 2015 2:34 pm

Dragonir wrote:Perhaps put all of the Catholic counties to Ireland and the protestant uns to the uk


Would have been great at the inception of the country and would have saved a lot of trouble.
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Postby Marcurix » Thu Mar 26, 2015 2:34 pm

Put it to a vote or leave it alone.
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Postby Benian Republic » Thu Mar 26, 2015 2:36 pm

Marcurix wrote:Put it to a vote or leave it alone.

Except for some of us don't think that those with more British than Irish heritage should be able take part in said vote.
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Postby Marcurix » Thu Mar 26, 2015 2:38 pm

Benian Republic wrote:
Marcurix wrote:Put it to a vote or leave it alone.

Except for some of us don't think that those with more British than Irish heritage should be able take part in said vote.


Well, to put it bluntly, it doesn't matter what you think.

There are already mechanisms in place for how to managing this sort of thing. You don't get to pick and choose.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Thu Mar 26, 2015 2:41 pm

Benian Republic wrote:
Marcurix wrote:Put it to a vote or leave it alone.

Except for some of us don't think that those with more British than Irish heritage should be able take part in said vote.

Well then those people are narrow minded and bigoted and only cause more issues.

You don't get to pick and choose who votes and who doesn't.

This is a DEMOCRACY. EVERYONE can vote and all voices will be heard.
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Postby Napkiraly » Thu Mar 26, 2015 2:41 pm

Benian Republic wrote:
Marcurix wrote:Put it to a vote or leave it alone.

Except for some of us don't think that those with more British than Irish heritage should be able take part in said vote.

Should people with more non-British heritage not be allowed to partake in referendums in the UK? Which would include those of Irish heritage. Not being able to vote on an issue where their home is.

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Postby Napkiraly » Thu Mar 26, 2015 2:42 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Benian Republic wrote:Except for some of us don't think that those with more British than Irish heritage should be able take part in said vote.

Well then those people are narrow minded and bigoted and only cause more issues.

You don't get to pick and choose who votes and who doesn't.

This is a DEMOCRACY. EVERYONE can vote and all voices will be heard.

It'd also a great way to piss off a lot of the Unionist block considering their own heritage. And where would the cutoff be? 19th century? 18th? 17th?

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Postby Fionnuala_Saoirse » Thu Mar 26, 2015 2:44 pm

Napkiraly wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Well then those people are narrow minded and bigoted and only cause more issues.

You don't get to pick and choose who votes and who doesn't.

This is a DEMOCRACY. EVERYONE can vote and all voices will be heard.

It'd also a great way to piss off a lot of the Unionist block considering their own heritage. And where would the cutoff be? 19th century? 18th? 17th?


Sure did you not know that the protestant people of Northern Ireland are the natives of the area oppressed by the evil Irish. That's the recent DUP spiel anyway.
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Postby Benian Republic » Thu Mar 26, 2015 2:46 pm

Fionnuala_Saoirse wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:It'd also a great way to piss off a lot of the Unionist block considering their own heritage. And where would the cutoff be? 19th century? 18th? 17th?


Sure did you not know that the protestant people of Northern Ireland are the natives of the area oppressed by the evil Irish. That's the recent DUP spiel anyway.

Im protestant.
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Postby Fionnuala_Saoirse » Thu Mar 26, 2015 2:47 pm

Benian Republic wrote:
Fionnuala_Saoirse wrote:
Sure did you not know that the protestant people of Northern Ireland are the natives of the area oppressed by the evil Irish. That's the recent DUP spiel anyway.

Im protestant.


Well isn't that great for you. I like apples.

When did you convert?

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Postby Busen » Thu Mar 26, 2015 2:47 pm

Libacur wrote:Should the British Government allow a referendum like one in Scotland but by Sinn Fein for a United Ireland??? I'm sure a lot of Irish in the North and South want to see a united nation, instead of one ruled by the Brits.

Should Sinn Fein be allowed to be the SNP in an Irish Referendum?

Yes but only when the Irish-Catholics became the demographic majority there. Before that there is no reason to make the referendum.
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Postby Napkiraly » Thu Mar 26, 2015 2:47 pm

Fionnuala_Saoirse wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:It'd also a great way to piss off a lot of the Unionist block considering their own heritage. And where would the cutoff be? 19th century? 18th? 17th?


Sure did you not know that the protestant people of Northern Ireland are the natives of the area oppressed by the evil Irish. That's the recent DUP spiel anyway.

Not what I'm saying. Doing such a thing for a referendum would piss off a lot of people considering a lot of Unionists are descendants of non-native Irish people, at least in part. It'd would probably not end up creating a good situation for everyone. It's also very, very dirty politics.

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