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Postby Ivo Mullur » Tue Mar 10, 2015 3:46 pm

Benevolent Thomas wrote:One of those rare moments where defenderum seems more unified than invaderdom. Let us enjoy this fleeting moment for as long as it lasts.

Aye, I don't particularly see a use for this thread. If a couple raider-noobs contact TBR's GS for help raiding a region, I highly doubt anything's going to happen.

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Postby Ambroscus Koth » Tue Mar 10, 2015 3:50 pm

Nephmir wrote:This, and the thread it was inspired by, just contributes further to defining the term "Defender" and "Raider" and expanding the shadow to discourage and kill off new groups with a different idea. Fresh ideas are what Gameplay needs, not a directory of regions with a defined black-and-white alignment. A list of Invader and Defender regions are already available here and here, while all known active Gameplay regions are listed here with their own custom description.


The Invader and Defender tags mean nothing, especially since TBR tags most hits with the Invader tag, and there are regions like The Communist Bloc that have both tags. The thread you linked is massively out of date.
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Postby Cormac Stark » Tue Mar 10, 2015 4:06 pm

Trick Shot wrote:
Christopher Bishop wrote:Just for the record, I probably won't help you if you aren't in one the UIAF affiliated militaries or with a region we have worked with before.

This was made purely for fairness since there is another thread just like this for Defenders

In other words, raiding doesn't get enough daily attention in Gameplay so Festavo felt the need to do exactly what I'm doing in a way that has put raider disunity on display. 10/10. :P

Nephmir wrote:This, and the thread it was inspired by, just contributes further to defining the term "Defender" and "Raider" and expanding the shadow to discourage and kill off new groups with a different idea. Fresh ideas are what Gameplay needs, not a directory of regions with a defined black-and-white alignment. A list of Invader and Defender regions are already available here and here, while all known active Gameplay regions are listed here with their own custom description.

Those who don't define as raider or defender -- neutrals, independents, imperialists, etc. -- are free to make their own directory. No reason for either defenders or raiders to do it for them. I felt defending doesn't get enough publicity and too few people know how to reach defenders to find out about it, so I made a directory. Festavo apparently felt that any tiny bit of attention to defending must be accompanied by yet more attention paid to raiding, and he made a directory. Feel free to make a different one, but complaining about these is silly.
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Postby Rifty » Tue Mar 10, 2015 4:17 pm

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Postby Rifty » Tue Mar 10, 2015 4:19 pm

And TCB raids a fair bit I believe - I've seen their tags plastered a couple times
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Postby KaelThas Quilor » Tue Mar 10, 2015 4:20 pm

Defending doesn't get publicity because the whole point of defending is to have no raidiological footprint, as it were. :p
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Postby Consular » Tue Mar 10, 2015 4:24 pm

Valrifell wrote:Technically speaking, the UIAF is NOT a political identity or body all it's own (I.E. region), rather it's a tool used by Albion, The New Inquisition, and Land of Kings and Emperors. It should also be noted that all three of those regions have their own armed forces that don't always act under the UIAF.

Indeed. It would be more appropriate to list the independent constituent regions. Mind you, the UIAF regions are not "raiders" strictly speaking anyway so it might be better to not list us at all. Our allies already know how to request our support if needed, and as Christopher noted we aren't really in the business of giving support to random non allies who TG us.

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Postby Victor Savage » Tue Mar 10, 2015 5:06 pm

Benevolent Thomas wrote:One of those rare moments where defenderum seems more unified than invaderdom. Let us enjoy this fleeting moment for as long as it lasts.


Why must you turn this topic into a house of lies?

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Postby RiderSyl » Tue Mar 10, 2015 5:58 pm

Cormac Stark wrote:I felt defending doesn't get enough publicity and too few people know how to reach defenders to find out about it, so I made a directory. Festavo apparently felt that any tiny bit of attention to defending must be accompanied by yet more attention paid to raiding, and he made a directory.


Heh. Not even directory threads are safe from being put in the Cormac Controversy Creator™.

You're absolutely right, Cormac. This thread was clearly created as a conspiracy to smother any attention that defenders could get.
I was in on it, ALL the imperialists were in on it, and even Tim's alter raiding ego "Mit" was in on it.

Damn it, can you stop using your mystifying detective powers to bust up our fabulous raider schemes?!
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Postby Cormac Stark » Tue Mar 10, 2015 6:16 pm

Ridersyl wrote:
Cormac Stark wrote:I felt defending doesn't get enough publicity and too few people know how to reach defenders to find out about it, so I made a directory. Festavo apparently felt that any tiny bit of attention to defending must be accompanied by yet more attention paid to raiding, and he made a directory.


Heh. Not even directory threads are safe from being put in the Cormac Controversy Creator™.

You're absolutely right, Cormac. This thread was clearly created as a conspiracy to smother any attention that defenders could get.
I was in on it, ALL the imperialists were in on it, and even Tim's alter raiding ego "Mit" was in on it.

Damn it, can you stop using your mystifying detective powers to bust up our fabulous raider schemes?!

A couple things:

1. Didn't say what you're saying I said.
2. I wasn't being entirely serious with my snark, in any case.

But just for the record, this thread was in fact created to balance the defender thread I made first:

Trick Shot wrote:Helpful thread and dispatch for people looking to defend. Maybe I will make one for raiders out of fairness

Trick Shot wrote:
Christopher Bishop wrote:Just for the record, I probably won't help you if you aren't in one the UIAF affiliated militaries or with a region we have worked with before.

This was made purely for fairness since there is another thread just like this for Defenders
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Postby RiderSyl » Tue Mar 10, 2015 6:30 pm

Oh yeah, it was absolutely made for the sake of balance. Not to snuff out and/or grab attention, though.

Also, you say not all of your snark was serious. Well, same here. :p
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Postby Getti » Tue Mar 10, 2015 6:50 pm

Despite the fact that a Defender Index had just been created, I can assure all that a grand organization of Raiderdom was going to take place eventually, and it just so happens that it has occurred today.
What is so bad about having two similar referral threads for the two major spectrums of gaming? It will provide new players with an easy go to sheet on raider or defender groups they can join, and will provide quick reference as to the list of raider and defender regions.

Although I am solemn to see DEN and Unknown was not included.
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Postby Pollaetorian » Tue Mar 10, 2015 9:25 pm

Pft, only includes raiders who seize WA delegates. There's us Poll Raiders too! *paging Pollat* :P
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Postby Zaolat » Tue Mar 10, 2015 10:35 pm

Pollaetorian wrote:Pft, only includes raiders who seize WA delegates. There's us Poll Raiders too! *paging Pollat* :P

What?
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Postby Drop Your Pants » Wed Mar 11, 2015 2:55 am

Getti wrote:Although I am solemn to see DEN and Unknown was not included.

Why would you include 2 dead regions?
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Postby Ever-Wandering Souls » Wed Mar 11, 2015 3:00 am

During my time in Sicarus, I received pilers from both of those orgs. That's recorded here. viewtopic.php?f=24&t=318768&hilit=islam
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Postby Drop Your Pants » Wed Mar 11, 2015 3:32 am

Ever-Wandering Souls wrote:During my time in Sicarus, I received pilers from both of those orgs. That's recorded here. https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopi ... ilit=islam

Last november is the best they have? :P They could go into the support section.
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Postby Getti » Wed Mar 11, 2015 3:59 am

Drop Your Pants wrote:
Getti wrote:Although I am solemn to see DEN and Unknown was not included.

Why would you include 2 dead regions?

If you are going by that logic, then why include LWU?
Unknown is not dead. On the contrary, it is just starting up again. DEN is still around, kind of, just not on the public front of gameplay.
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Postby Drop Your Pants » Wed Mar 11, 2015 6:46 am

Getti wrote:If you are going by that logic, then why include LWU?

Because i've already tried calling LWU dead and EW hasn't shut up since :P
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Postby Shadoke » Wed Mar 11, 2015 9:36 am

I think a spiritual version of DEN exists in Ile De France, and as far as I know they are somewhat active.
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Postby Evil Wolf » Wed Mar 11, 2015 9:55 am

Drop Your Pants wrote:
Getti wrote:If you are going by that logic, then why include LWU?

Because i've already tried calling LWU dead and EW hasn't shut up since :P


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Postby Klaus Devestatorie » Wed Mar 11, 2015 7:12 pm

Drop Your Pants wrote:
Getti wrote:Although I am solemn to see DEN and Unknown was not included.

Why would you include 2 dead regions?

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Postby Iskodra » Thu Feb 28, 2019 10:54 am

The Grey Wolves are an Inter-Raider organisation.

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