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Age Poll, February 2015

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Your age during this poll

Poll ended at Sat Feb 21, 2015 7:34 am

13-14
45
10%
15
69
15%
16
44
10%
17
53
12%
18
40
9%
19-20
69
15%
21-22
30
7%
23-29
55
12%
30-40
22
5%
41 or older
21
5%
 
Total votes : 448

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Ifreann
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Founded: Aug 07, 2005
Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Ifreann » Sat Feb 07, 2015 6:40 pm

Ailiailia wrote:It looks to me like some players are puppet voting in options #2 and #6.

Which of course renders the poll meaningless. I could ask a Mod to investigate, but I doubt they'd make the effort since puppet voting on a poll isn't a forum offense.

Really bloody annoying though.

Jamjai wrote:we are winning


... and here's a suspect.

"I know, I'll use puppets to make this poll less accurate! Truly it shall be the most whimsical jape of the season!" - Someone, apparently.
He/Him
We are born of the salt, we are children of the sea
We don't bend our knee to no king or country
So we hoist the Jolly Roger, the colours of the free
And if we hit the gallows that's the way that it must be

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United Russian Soviet States
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Founded: Jan 07, 2015
Ex-Nation

Postby United Russian Soviet States » Sat Feb 07, 2015 6:51 pm

Forsher wrote:
United Russian Soviet States wrote:I wonder what drove them to this site.


What drew you to this site?

Ailiailia wrote:
Perhaps there aren't many debate forums which are so easy to register on and have an age as low as 13 to start.

That wouldn't really explain the bulge at 15 or 16 years though. It's not just this thread, every age poll on General has shown more mid-teens than early-teens.

So maybe it's the game (or games, there being more than one way to 'play Nationstates') which attracts early teens, but doesn't entirely captivate them. How much better the world would be if I called the shots, this is great, oh wait. There are all these other players trying to rule the world, and they have more practice than I do. I'll just chill out for a while in one of these "discussion" forums.

And they get stuck on the forums, like mice in a glue trap. Stuck here until they finally knaw their own leg off to escape. :evil:


For sake of argument, let's say that 13 and 14 year olds aren't, in general, particularly politically active/aware. As a consequence, we should expect that NSG draws from a smaller pool and so there should be fewer of them in NSG (as we see). However, after one or two years mixing with older teens and stuff, the number of teens to whom a game like NS would appeal increases. As a result, we should see more of these.

Furthermore, the forums are populated by people who are young. This has two effects. Firstly, it doesn't discourage other younger people. Secondly, it probably does discourage at least some older members (especially if they get headhunted, as it were.

If we then argue that the forum model or the relative inaction of the game or both lead to a relatively low retention rate of players so that many make it a few years then tail off (if not months or weeks). This would help explain the bulges, I think.

I wanted to play a political simulation game after I had been playing a life simulation game called Stick RPG.
This nation does not represent my views.
I stand with Rand.
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Opplandia
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Ex-Nation

Postby Opplandia » Sat Feb 07, 2015 6:54 pm

25 and lovig it :D
NS-stats are not used

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The Eastern Antarctic State
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Posts: 3182
Founded: Jun 06, 2014
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby The Eastern Antarctic State » Sat Feb 07, 2015 6:55 pm

I am fifteen years old, turned so in January
This ensues
The Republic of Eastern Antarctica is a country located on the Eastern portion of the Antarctic Continent, Has leftist policies, but is still capitalist.

NOTE: I am an Australian.
I enjoy playing/watching Cricket and Rugby League every now and then. Love me some history and paradox games. Studying at University. Catholic. You can call me TEAS or EAS

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Imyoji
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Founded: Oct 22, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby Imyoji » Sat Feb 07, 2015 6:57 pm

18 years young.
The Republic of Imyoji ― Emüryürü-ju Miinju
The Harmonious Northern Island


What do you get when you combine pursuits of technological advancements, an appreciation and strong conservation of the natural environment, and a harmony between altruistic communitarianism and state sponsored capitalism?
i am the globalization shill the left and the right warned you about

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Forsher
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Posts: 23237
Founded: Jan 30, 2012
New York Times Democracy

Postby Forsher » Sun Feb 08, 2015 3:05 am

United Russian Soviet States wrote:
Forsher wrote:
What drew you to this site?



For sake of argument, let's say that 13 and 14 year olds aren't, in general, particularly politically active/aware. As a consequence, we should expect that NSG draws from a smaller pool and so there should be fewer of them in NSG (as we see). However, after one or two years mixing with older teens and stuff, the number of teens to whom a game like NS would appeal increases. As a result, we should see more of these.

Furthermore, the forums are populated by people who are young. This has two effects. Firstly, it doesn't discourage other younger people. Secondly, it probably does discourage at least some older members (especially if they get headhunted, as it were.

If we then argue that the forum model or the relative inaction of the game or both lead to a relatively low retention rate of players so that many make it a few years then tail off (if not months or weeks). This would help explain the bulges, I think.

I wanted to play a political simulation game after I had been playing a life simulation game called Stick RPG.


Probably something similar, then. I suppose it's possible that the forum attracts some people but the idea of the game is probably the big draw, I reckon it was for me. Mind you, I cannot remember how I found the site but I do know that the idea was appealing (even if the game itself never really grabbed me). On the other hand, I was also 16 when I found NS.
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That it Could be What it Is, Is What it Is

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The normie life is heteronormie

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Dumb Ideologies
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Founded: Sep 30, 2007
Mother Knows Best State

Postby Dumb Ideologies » Sun Feb 08, 2015 3:08 am

Ifreann wrote:
Ailiailia wrote:It looks to me like some players are puppet voting in options #2 and #6.

Which of course renders the poll meaningless. I could ask a Mod to investigate, but I doubt they'd make the effort since puppet voting on a poll isn't a forum offense.

Really bloody annoying though.



... and here's a suspect.

"I know, I'll use puppets to make this poll less accurate! Truly it shall be the most whimsical jape of the season!" - Someone, apparently.


Hohohoh such tomfoolery!
Furthermore, I consider that feminism must be destroyed.

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Jamjai
Minister
 
Posts: 2347
Founded: Jul 11, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Jamjai » Sun Feb 08, 2015 3:20 am

Ailiailia wrote:It looks to me like some players are puppet voting in options #2 and #6.

Which of course renders the poll meaningless. I could ask a Mod to investigate, but I doubt they'd make the effort since puppet voting on a poll isn't a forum offense.

Really bloody annoying though.

Jamjai wrote:we are winning


... and here's a suspect.

Conspiracy against me
RP: 34 million

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The Archregimancy
Senior Game Moderator
 
Posts: 34341
Founded: Aug 01, 2005
Democratic Socialists

Postby The Archregimancy » Sun Feb 08, 2015 3:24 am

Ifreann wrote:"I know, I'll use puppets to make this poll less accurate! Truly it shall be the most whimsical jape of the season!"


Why, that's precisely what I said to myself this afternoon while polishing my monocle, waiting for Jeeves to bring me my first G&T of the day, and desperately trying to pump up the number of respondents in the 41+ category.


More seriously:

Ailiailia wrote:It looks to me like some players are puppet voting in options #2 and #6.

Which of course renders the poll meaningless. I could ask a Mod to investigate, but I doubt they'd make the effort since puppet voting on a poll isn't a forum offense.


No, it isn't. There are very few situations where puppet abuse is actively actionable, and the only situation I can think of where puppet voting might be actionable is under the very specific rules governing the participation of puppets in certain events in the NS Sports sub-forum.

Sorry.

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Edgy Opinions
Senator
 
Posts: 4400
Founded: Dec 31, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby Edgy Opinions » Sun Feb 08, 2015 3:35 am

Forsher wrote:You're '94, yes?

At any rate, the 90s kid has more substantial memories rather than snatching ones (i.e. like you describe). But, at least, with '94 one has started school prior to 2000 (which is, obviously a Big Thing).

I'm from late December 1994.

Granted, I completed two grades in 2000 due to moving to a different city, so I always studied around older people (I was by far the youngest in class when I started high school). Started Jardim II in March, started Classe de Alfabetização (now 1º ano do ensino primário) in August. (And had the best grades, 100% 100%, until the third grade.)

Does kindergarten count as school? I took it as seriously. :unsure:
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Into: your gender, anarchism/communism, obliteration of kyriarchy, environment, other obvious '-10.00, -9.13 in political compass' stuff
Anti: your gender (undo it interacting with me), Born This Way (also medicalism/pathologization/eugenics), outer space, abuse/predation, owners, power, hierarchy, internalization/privilege goggles (essential to the continuity of identity with power/hierarchy systems), essentialism/determinism, nihilism/defeatism

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Katyuscha
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Posts: 22413
Founded: Sep 23, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Katyuscha » Sun Feb 08, 2015 7:04 am

Born July 12, 1995

I'm technically a 90's kid, but I was a child. I didn't even know what the 90's were, so whatever.
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Edgy Opinions
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Ex-Nation

Postby Edgy Opinions » Sun Feb 08, 2015 8:16 am

Katyuscha wrote:Born July 12, 1995

I'm technically a 90's kid, but I was a child. I didn't even know what the 90's were, so whatever.

I remember people saying that 2000/2001 were set to bring the Final Judgment lol.
Kotturheim's contagious despair.
100% self-impressed 20-year-old cadoneutrois-pangender imprigender genderblur fluidflux bi-pan/gray-ace/gray-aro Brazilian.
Into: your gender, anarchism/communism, obliteration of kyriarchy, environment, other obvious '-10.00, -9.13 in political compass' stuff
Anti: your gender (undo it interacting with me), Born This Way (also medicalism/pathologization/eugenics), outer space, abuse/predation, owners, power, hierarchy, internalization/privilege goggles (essential to the continuity of identity with power/hierarchy systems), essentialism/determinism, nihilism/defeatism

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CTALNH
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Founded: Jul 18, 2010
Ex-Nation

Postby CTALNH » Sun Feb 08, 2015 10:19 am

Ailiailia wrote:
CTALNH wrote:Here is a fun question how old am I?


You are 17.

20 actually.
"This guy is a State socialist, which doesn't so much mean mass murder and totalitarianism as it means trying to have a strong state to lead the way out of poverty and towards a bright future. Strict state control of the economy is necessary to make the great leap forward into that brighter future, and all elements of society must be sure to contribute or else."
Economic Left/Right: -9.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 3.64
Lawful Neutral/Lawful Evil half and half.
Authoritarian Extreme Leftist because fuck pre-existing Ideologies.
"Epicus Doomicus Metallicus"
Radical Anti-Radical Feminist Feminist
S.W.I.F: Sex Worker Inclusionary Feminist.
T.I.F: Trans Inclusionary Feminist

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Bacopa
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Founded: Jan 09, 2012
Authoritarian Democracy

Postby Bacopa » Sun Feb 08, 2015 10:45 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:I turned 20 in December.

Man i feel old saying that.



Relax, I turned twenty twenty-nine years ago
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Soldati Senza Confini
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Founded: Mar 11, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sun Feb 08, 2015 10:45 am

Edgy Opinions wrote:
Forsher wrote:You're '94, yes?

At any rate, the 90s kid has more substantial memories rather than snatching ones (i.e. like you describe). But, at least, with '94 one has started school prior to 2000 (which is, obviously a Big Thing).

I'm from late December 1994.

Granted, I completed two grades in 2000 due to moving to a different city, so I always studied around older people (I was by far the youngest in class when I started high school). Started Jardim II in March, started Classe de Alfabetização (now 1º ano do ensino primário) in August. (And had the best grades, 100% 100%, until the third grade.)

Does kindergarten count as school? I took it as seriously. :unsure:


I am from March 1989, what the fuck?!

Keep making me feel old, here.
Soldati senza confini: Better than an iPod in shuffle more with 20,000 songs.
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United Russian Soviet States
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Posts: 3327
Founded: Jan 07, 2015
Ex-Nation

Postby United Russian Soviet States » Sun Feb 08, 2015 12:38 pm

Forsher wrote:
United Russian Soviet States wrote:I wanted to play a political simulation game after I had been playing a life simulation game called Stick RPG.


Probably something similar, then. I suppose it's possible that the forum attracts some people but the idea of the game is probably the big draw, I reckon it was for me. Mind you, I cannot remember how I found the site but I do know that the idea was appealing (even if the game itself never really grabbed me). On the other hand, I was also 16 when I found NS.

I was 13 when I found this site.
This nation does not represent my views.
I stand with Rand.
_[' ]_
(-_Q) If you support Capitalism put this in your Sig.
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The Grey Wolf
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Founded: May 19, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby The Grey Wolf » Sun Feb 08, 2015 2:48 pm

Transyl wrote:I turned 17 last year in September. Turning 18 this year, cannot wait to finally be a legal adult.


Not much more to say than this.

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Forsher
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Posts: 23237
Founded: Jan 30, 2012
New York Times Democracy

Postby Forsher » Sun Feb 08, 2015 7:47 pm

Edgy Opinions wrote:
Forsher wrote:You're '94, yes?

At any rate, the 90s kid has more substantial memories rather than snatching ones (i.e. like you describe). But, at least, with '94 one has started school prior to 2000 (which is, obviously a Big Thing).

I'm from late December 1994.

Granted, I completed two grades in 2000 due to moving to a different city, so I always studied around older people (I was by far the youngest in class when I started high school). Started Jardim II in March, started Classe de Alfabetização (now 1º ano do ensino primário) in August. (And had the best grades, 100% 100%, until the third grade.)

Does kindergarten count as school? I took it as seriously. :unsure:


Depends. If you mean kindergarten like in Kindergarten Cop, kind of because it's the K in K-12 and, therefore, is the same as new entrants (but, apparently, way more focussed on playing... but, then, I am literally using what happens in kindergarten cop to describe this). If you mean proper kindergarten (a kind of pre-school option), then no.

Katyuscha wrote:Born July 12, 1995

I'm technically a 90's kid, but I was a child. I didn't even know what the 90's were, so whatever.


You should've been in my core class. We'd have had 12, 13 and 14. But, that would've killed the nice pattern of sorts with 13, 14, 22, 30, and 31.

But, yeah, I reject the idea of 1995 being included in the 90s kid thing because it's just too young to have meaningful memories of the 90s. If you want to talk about children's programming from the 90s... yes a lot of it ran into the 2000s (and therefore within the child period of a 1995 child) but parents were also likely to select the films of the 90s and late 80s for such children to watch, as well as more recent things.
That it Could be What it Is, Is What it Is

Stop making shit up, though. Links, or it's a God-damn lie and you know it.

The normie life is heteronormie

We won't know until 2053 when it'll be really obvious what he should've done. [...] We have no option but to guess.

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Fonidia and Osteyon
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Ex-Nation

Postby Fonidia and Osteyon » Sun Feb 08, 2015 7:55 pm

I'm turning 18 next month, and even though most of the people here are around 15-19, I still feel like a kid.
The demonym of my country is Ostidian.
My country can be referred to as Fonidia and Osteyon or F&O. Fonidia, Osteyon, "Ostidia", the Union or the Great Union are also acceptable terms.
Full name: The Great Union of Fonidia and Osteyon. RP population: ~74 million. Most of the time, this nation reflects my political and social views
Male, 19 years old, Mexican with Italian heritage, Catholic, centrist, heterosexual. I'm also known as 'szmty'.
Football (soccer), drawing, rock music, video games (top 3: Pokémon, FIFA, GTA). I watch a little anime too (NGE is my favourite).
SJWs, In-your-face bronies, racists, homophobia, anti-theism and anti-religious people, any other stereotype related to neckbeards/fedoras

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Ykrovjnge Krjvwic
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Ex-Nation

Postby Ykrovjnge Krjvwic » Sun Feb 08, 2015 8:36 pm

18 in 9 days. Wouldn't mind being 6 or 7 or 8 again, though.

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Oceasia
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Posts: 8305
Founded: Dec 21, 2012
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Oceasia » Sun Feb 08, 2015 9:38 pm

Bunkeranlage wrote:
Oceasia wrote:I turned 13 last September.


I must say, you're a pretty decent writer for your age.

Thanks for the kind gratitude, sir Bunk! ;)

Bunkeranlage wrote:One more year for me, and then it's wine time. ;)

I drank wine once. It tastes horrible.

Fesconia wrote:I'm 13, turning 14 in October.

Now i know I'm not the youngest person here.
..()_()
.(o - o) /\
...|.....\/...\
...|......\vvv\
...|.)|.)(..)===<<<
Economic Left/Right= -3.0
Social Liberal/Authoritarian= -4.41
You are 2.8% Evil.
You are 17.9% Lawful.
Alignment: True Neutral
Jurassic World has announced a new attraction coming this June. No other details were given.

No, my nation isn't ruled by dinosaurs

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Sebastianbourg
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Posts: 5646
Founded: Apr 06, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Sebastianbourg » Sun Feb 08, 2015 9:38 pm

Oceasia wrote:
Bunkeranlage wrote:One more year for me, and then it's wine time. ;)

I drank wine once. It tastes horrible.

Blasphemy.

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Oceasia
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 8305
Founded: Dec 21, 2012
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Oceasia » Sun Feb 08, 2015 9:50 pm

Sebastianbourg wrote:
Oceasia wrote:I drank wine once. It tastes horrible.

Blasphemy.

Nope.
..()_()
.(o - o) /\
...|.....\/...\
...|......\vvv\
...|.)|.)(..)===<<<
Economic Left/Right= -3.0
Social Liberal/Authoritarian= -4.41
You are 2.8% Evil.
You are 17.9% Lawful.
Alignment: True Neutral
Jurassic World has announced a new attraction coming this June. No other details were given.

No, my nation isn't ruled by dinosaurs

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United Russian Soviet States
Minister
 
Posts: 3327
Founded: Jan 07, 2015
Ex-Nation

Postby United Russian Soviet States » Sun Feb 08, 2015 9:51 pm

Oceasia wrote:
Bunkeranlage wrote:
I must say, you're a pretty decent writer for your age.

Thanks for the kind gratitude, sir Bunk! ;)

Bunkeranlage wrote:One more year for me, and then it's wine time. ;)

I drank wine once. It tastes horrible.

Fesconia wrote:I'm 13, turning 14 in October.

Now i know I'm not the youngest person here.

I thought alcohol was prohibited in Islam.
This nation does not represent my views.
I stand with Rand.
_[' ]_
(-_Q) If you support Capitalism put this in your Sig.
:Member of the United National Group:

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The Grey Wolf
Post Czar
 
Posts: 32675
Founded: May 19, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby The Grey Wolf » Sun Feb 08, 2015 9:54 pm

Ykrovjnge Krjvwic wrote:18 in 9 days. Wouldn't mind being 6 or 7 or 8 again, though.


I would. It sucked.

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