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by Amerique » Mon Dec 29, 2014 9:57 am
by Beddgelert » Mon Dec 29, 2014 3:17 pm
Hibernordia wrote:And I'm not going to hurl Bibles over the Alps to Beddgelert. We know how that ended last time.
@Beddgelert: Some Pearl Harbor-ish kind of thing? That's be a great casus belli for the then-neutral Confederation to declare war. With Africa and the islands remaining free, the Chrinnies might have retreated across the Strait of Gibraltar in a Dunkirk-esque evacuation. I'm not sure whether there was an army that liberated peninsular Italy, or whether the rebelling armed population/militia in the mainland simply wore the occupiers off. Probably the latter, unless faraway allies chose Italy over Iberia for another front, if another front opens at all. But I'm sure the demographers would point out the Occupation as the one that caused severe population decline in the mainland (as opposed to emigration IRL Italy).
EDIT: BONUS! A preview of the Confederation!
by Chrinthanium » Mon Dec 29, 2014 4:47 pm
Beddgelert wrote:Hibernordia wrote:And I'm not going to hurl Bibles over the Alps to Beddgelert. We know how that ended last time.
@Beddgelert: Some Pearl Harbor-ish kind of thing? That's be a great casus belli for the then-neutral Confederation to declare war. With Africa and the islands remaining free, the Chrinnies might have retreated across the Strait of Gibraltar in a Dunkirk-esque evacuation. I'm not sure whether there was an army that liberated peninsular Italy, or whether the rebelling armed population/militia in the mainland simply wore the occupiers off. Probably the latter, unless faraway allies chose Italy over Iberia for another front, if another front opens at all. But I'm sure the demographers would point out the Occupation as the one that caused severe population decline in the mainland (as opposed to emigration IRL Italy).
EDIT: BONUS! A preview of the Confederation!
Very pretty, that.The Great War is in large part a desperate Geletian conspiracy to stave off the decline of the >2,000 year old Triarchy, which is struggling to adapt in the industrial, market-driven age. After thrashing Tsalland and Byzantium in the 1915/16 Saimonan War, conquering the former (Slovenia, Bosnia & Herzegovina, Croatia, Montenegro) entirely and seizing the Peloponnese and western Constantinople from the latter, the Geletians sparked a bit of an arms race, as our machine-guns, tanks, blind artillery, telecommunications, rail transport, mechanisation of artillery batteries, repeating rifles, long-range torpedoes, and air-ships wrought havoc with the essentially C19th militaries opposing us.
The Tsag Arch Duke fled abroad (if you like, to one of the Italian states) and set-up a government-in-exile, indirectly commanding a partisan army fighting the occupation through the 1920s and '30s, receiving support from some foreign powers... I can maybe imagine some Italians fighting as volunteers or mercenaries even if the Confederation stays neutral? Eventually there's a Papal Bull calling on Catholics to cease trade in strategic materials with Geletia, and the creation of the Aventine Alliance, allying the government-in-exile with Byzantium, Swabia, and formerly the Roman Empire, against the Triarchy. Not sure if the Confederation would want to remain neutral or get in on the alliance, but to me the latter seems more likely, with the aim being the maintenance of regional stability by dissuading further Geletian aggression. Possibly Chrinthanium also gets on board, but they may have less direct interest so I'm not sure now.
In response, Geletia secretly convenes the Pact of Oak, allying with Cassanos, Bohemia, Valendia, and the Shield. The first two are perhaps natural allies to a degree, but the Shield is a traditional enemy and a Catholic state -some Shieldians may well even be fighting the Triarchy with the international brigades in Tsalland-, turned against the Pope and others after the last Shieldo-Geletian war, which concluded with other European powers brokering a peace the Shieldians thought unfair in an effort to placate the Geletian beast. Valendia and Geletia, meanwhile, convinced everyone that they were at odds over Geletian support of (a barely existent) Breton nationalist movement.
So, in 1939, Valendia invades Chrinthanium and launches spoiling attacks into Swabia and Italy (probably with a heavy focus on hitting the formidable Italian fleet unawares), Geletia launches an air attack on Taranto and similar strikes against Byzantium and also takes part in the multi-fronted attack on Swabia and prepares amphibious and over-land attacks on Italy and a crossing of the Bosporus, Bohemia also invades Swabia, the Shield invades Gandvik and launches spoiling attacks in the Caucasus against Byzantium, and Cassanos sends forces on to the Shield to aid in the attack on Gandvik and (British) Amberland (IRL East Prussia) which happens to be in the way, all simultaneously and much to the surprise of the rest of the world.
It's a matter of quick victories early on, attempting to knock several enemies out of the war in 1939 so that the Oakists, who know they're out-gunned, have a chance in the long-term.
Unfortunately for them, the fall of Amberland and Valendian cross-channel bombing and commerce-raiding doesn't convince the British to give-up and accept a major shift in the balance of power on the continent, and ends up dragging America and California into the war on the Aventine side; the Shieldian army proves a hopeless liability and serves to do little more than choke the dubious Gandvian roads with mule-trains and corpses; the Chrinthani keep fighting from their large colonies and their fleet joins the British and Americans to defeat the combined Valendo-Geletian fleets, cutting off the Geletian colony of Congo (inherited from Tsalland) and the various Valendian colonies around the globe; Byzantium easily halts the Shieldian offensive in the Caucasus and re-directs the bulk of its forces against the Geletians in Anatolia, helped by massive material aid from the Americas, shipped in by the Royal Merchant Marine; and so on and so forth.
I think we should have the Italian partisans liberate parts of Italy -especially, as you say, mountainous areas with low populations-, which create footholds for the Allies to land troops in virtually uncontested, at which point the Geletians would probably withdraw rapidly to defensive positions in the Alps et cetera. I think Valendia should invade North Africa at some point, but not have much success against re-organised Italian and -as per your suggestion- evacuated Chrinthani troops, again possibly re-supplied by the British, Americans, and Californians. Gives you and Chrin some conventional victories to celebrate instead of relying on resistance fighters and allies to get all the glory. Also, Somua S35s and AMC tanks fighting Carro Armatos in the desert. Fun!
by Great Italy » Tue Dec 30, 2014 6:20 am
Amerique wrote:The barbarians were generally of the Arian Christian religion before even crossing into the Roman Empire, while some went Nicene (Catholic/Orthodox). Carthage and North Africa, especially the Punic population, were the center of early Christianity which can be seen in examples such as St. Augustine and Lactantius.
As far as Egypt goes, I'd recommend the canal region being taken later on in history (such as the 18th or 19th century as historical with the Suez Canal territory) as Egypt being Muslim allows for the existence of Saladin during the Crusades and other important figures.
by Chrinthanium » Tue Dec 30, 2014 6:46 am
Great Italy wrote:Amerique wrote:The barbarians were generally of the Arian Christian religion before even crossing into the Roman Empire, while some went Nicene (Catholic/Orthodox). Carthage and North Africa, especially the Punic population, were the center of early Christianity which can be seen in examples such as St. Augustine and Lactantius.
As far as Egypt goes, I'd recommend the canal region being taken later on in history (such as the 18th or 19th century as historical with the Suez Canal territory) as Egypt being Muslim allows for the existence of Saladin during the Crusades and other important figures.
Thanks for the info! Although it would've meant that Arianism would've been extirpated from North Africa then.
Depends on the person who'll claim Egypt; Sinai was a Venetian ex-Colony arising from the trade post of Port Said (Porto San Marco in this timeline), the actual formation is still not set in stone. But definitely, yes, the Canal would've been built only in the 1800s, despite longtime Venetian dreams.
Oh also, this is Hibernordia/Kyle, and I've brought the Great War discussion to the Discussion thread.
Also, we're supposed to post factbooks as a thread in this forum?
by Nilosahara » Tue Dec 30, 2014 4:22 pm
by United Kongo » Tue Dec 30, 2014 9:09 pm
by The Crooked Beat » Wed Dec 31, 2014 5:06 pm
Beddgelert wrote:Hibernordia wrote:And I'm not going to hurl Bibles over the Alps to Beddgelert. We know how that ended last time.
@Beddgelert: Some Pearl Harbor-ish kind of thing? That's be a great casus belli for the then-neutral Confederation to declare war. With Africa and the islands remaining free, the Chrinnies might have retreated across the Strait of Gibraltar in a Dunkirk-esque evacuation. I'm not sure whether there was an army that liberated peninsular Italy, or whether the rebelling armed population/militia in the mainland simply wore the occupiers off. Probably the latter, unless faraway allies chose Italy over Iberia for another front, if another front opens at all. But I'm sure the demographers would point out the Occupation as the one that caused severe population decline in the mainland (as opposed to emigration IRL Italy).
EDIT: BONUS! A preview of the Confederation!
Very pretty, that.The Great War is in large part a desperate Geletian conspiracy to stave off the decline of the >2,000 year old Triarchy, which is struggling to adapt in the industrial, market-driven age. After thrashing Tsalland and Byzantium in the 1915/16 Saimonan War, conquering the former (Slovenia, Bosnia & Herzegovina, Croatia, Montenegro) entirely and seizing the Peloponnese and western Constantinople from the latter, the Geletians sparked a bit of an arms race, as our machine-guns, tanks, blind artillery, telecommunications, rail transport, mechanisation of artillery batteries, repeating rifles, long-range torpedoes, and air-ships wrought havoc with the essentially C19th militaries opposing us.
The Tsag Arch Duke fled abroad (if you like, to one of the Italian states) and set-up a government-in-exile, indirectly commanding a partisan army fighting the occupation through the 1920s and '30s, receiving support from some foreign powers... I can maybe imagine some Italians fighting as volunteers or mercenaries even if the Confederation stays neutral? Eventually there's a Papal Bull calling on Catholics to cease trade in strategic materials with Geletia, and the creation of the Aventine Alliance, allying the government-in-exile with Byzantium, Swabia, and formerly the Roman Empire, against the Triarchy. Not sure if the Confederation would want to remain neutral or get in on the alliance, but to me the latter seems more likely, with the aim being the maintenance of regional stability by dissuading further Geletian aggression. Possibly Chrinthanium also gets on board, but they may have less direct interest so I'm not sure now.
In response, Geletia secretly convenes the Pact of Oak, allying with Cassanos, Bohemia, Valendia, and the Shield. The first two are perhaps natural allies to a degree, but the Shield is a traditional enemy and a Catholic state -some Shieldians may well even be fighting the Triarchy with the international brigades in Tsalland-, turned against the Pope and others after the last Shieldo-Geletian war, which concluded with other European powers brokering a peace the Shieldians thought unfair in an effort to placate the Geletian beast. Valendia and Geletia, meanwhile, convinced everyone that they were at odds over Geletian support of (a barely existent) Breton nationalist movement.
So, in 1939, Valendia invades Chrinthanium and launches spoiling attacks into Swabia and Italy (probably with a heavy focus on hitting the formidable Italian fleet unawares), Geletia launches an air attack on Taranto and similar strikes against Byzantium and also takes part in the multi-fronted attack on Swabia and prepares amphibious and over-land attacks on Italy and a crossing of the Bosporus, Bohemia also invades Swabia, the Shield invades Gandvik and launches spoiling attacks in the Caucasus against Byzantium, and Cassanos sends forces on to the Shield to aid in the attack on Gandvik and (British) Amberland (IRL East Prussia) which happens to be in the way, all simultaneously and much to the surprise of the rest of the world.
It's a matter of quick victories early on, attempting to knock several enemies out of the war in 1939 so that the Oakists, who know they're out-gunned, have a chance in the long-term.
Unfortunately for them, the fall of Amberland and Valendian cross-channel bombing and commerce-raiding doesn't convince the British to give-up and accept a major shift in the balance of power on the continent, and ends up dragging America and California into the war on the Aventine side; the Shieldian army proves a hopeless liability and serves to do little more than choke the dubious Gandvian roads with mule-trains and corpses; the Chrinthani keep fighting from their large colonies and their fleet joins the British and Americans to defeat the combined Valendo-Geletian fleets, cutting off the Geletian colony of Congo (inherited from Tsalland) and the various Valendian colonies around the globe; Byzantium easily halts the Shieldian offensive in the Caucasus and re-directs the bulk of its forces against the Geletians in Anatolia, helped by massive material aid from the Americas, shipped in by the Royal Merchant Marine; and so on and so forth.
I think we should have the Italian partisans liberate parts of Italy -especially, as you say, mountainous areas with low populations-, which create footholds for the Allies to land troops in virtually uncontested, at which point the Geletians would probably withdraw rapidly to defensive positions in the Alps et cetera. I think Valendia should invade North Africa at some point, but not have much success against re-organised Italian and -as per your suggestion- evacuated Chrinthani troops, again possibly re-supplied by the British, Americans, and Californians. Gives you and Chrin some conventional victories to celebrate instead of relying on resistance fighters and allies to get all the glory. Also, Somua S35s and AMC tanks fighting Carro Armatos in the desert. Fun!
by Chrinthanium » Thu Jan 01, 2015 3:04 am
The Crooked Beat wrote:Beddgelert wrote:
Very pretty, that.The Great War is in large part a desperate Geletian conspiracy to stave off the decline of the >2,000 year old Triarchy, which is struggling to adapt in the industrial, market-driven age. After thrashing Tsalland and Byzantium in the 1915/16 Saimonan War, conquering the former (Slovenia, Bosnia & Herzegovina, Croatia, Montenegro) entirely and seizing the Peloponnese and western Constantinople from the latter, the Geletians sparked a bit of an arms race, as our machine-guns, tanks, blind artillery, telecommunications, rail transport, mechanisation of artillery batteries, repeating rifles, long-range torpedoes, and air-ships wrought havoc with the essentially C19th militaries opposing us.
The Tsag Arch Duke fled abroad (if you like, to one of the Italian states) and set-up a government-in-exile, indirectly commanding a partisan army fighting the occupation through the 1920s and '30s, receiving support from some foreign powers... I can maybe imagine some Italians fighting as volunteers or mercenaries even if the Confederation stays neutral? Eventually there's a Papal Bull calling on Catholics to cease trade in strategic materials with Geletia, and the creation of the Aventine Alliance, allying the government-in-exile with Byzantium, Swabia, and formerly the Roman Empire, against the Triarchy. Not sure if the Confederation would want to remain neutral or get in on the alliance, but to me the latter seems more likely, with the aim being the maintenance of regional stability by dissuading further Geletian aggression. Possibly Chrinthanium also gets on board, but they may have less direct interest so I'm not sure now.
In response, Geletia secretly convenes the Pact of Oak, allying with Cassanos, Bohemia, Valendia, and the Shield. The first two are perhaps natural allies to a degree, but the Shield is a traditional enemy and a Catholic state -some Shieldians may well even be fighting the Triarchy with the international brigades in Tsalland-, turned against the Pope and others after the last Shieldo-Geletian war, which concluded with other European powers brokering a peace the Shieldians thought unfair in an effort to placate the Geletian beast. Valendia and Geletia, meanwhile, convinced everyone that they were at odds over Geletian support of (a barely existent) Breton nationalist movement.
So, in 1939, Valendia invades Chrinthanium and launches spoiling attacks into Swabia and Italy (probably with a heavy focus on hitting the formidable Italian fleet unawares), Geletia launches an air attack on Taranto and similar strikes against Byzantium and also takes part in the multi-fronted attack on Swabia and prepares amphibious and over-land attacks on Italy and a crossing of the Bosporus, Bohemia also invades Swabia, the Shield invades Gandvik and launches spoiling attacks in the Caucasus against Byzantium, and Cassanos sends forces on to the Shield to aid in the attack on Gandvik and (British) Amberland (IRL East Prussia) which happens to be in the way, all simultaneously and much to the surprise of the rest of the world.
It's a matter of quick victories early on, attempting to knock several enemies out of the war in 1939 so that the Oakists, who know they're out-gunned, have a chance in the long-term.
Unfortunately for them, the fall of Amberland and Valendian cross-channel bombing and commerce-raiding doesn't convince the British to give-up and accept a major shift in the balance of power on the continent, and ends up dragging America and California into the war on the Aventine side; the Shieldian army proves a hopeless liability and serves to do little more than choke the dubious Gandvian roads with mule-trains and corpses; the Chrinthani keep fighting from their large colonies and their fleet joins the British and Americans to defeat the combined Valendo-Geletian fleets, cutting off the Geletian colony of Congo (inherited from Tsalland) and the various Valendian colonies around the globe; Byzantium easily halts the Shieldian offensive in the Caucasus and re-directs the bulk of its forces against the Geletians in Anatolia, helped by massive material aid from the Americas, shipped in by the Royal Merchant Marine; and so on and so forth.
I think we should have the Italian partisans liberate parts of Italy -especially, as you say, mountainous areas with low populations-, which create footholds for the Allies to land troops in virtually uncontested, at which point the Geletians would probably withdraw rapidly to defensive positions in the Alps et cetera. I think Valendia should invade North Africa at some point, but not have much success against re-organised Italian and -as per your suggestion- evacuated Chrinthani troops, again possibly re-supplied by the British, Americans, and Californians. Gives you and Chrin some conventional victories to celebrate instead of relying on resistance fighters and allies to get all the glory. Also, Somua S35s and AMC tanks fighting Carro Armatos in the desert. Fun!
Ha, Spain and Italy, the two armies which would probably have been blitzkrieg'd by France in RL! I mean, S35s could probably deal with Fiat-Ansaldos just by running them over.On a marginally more serious note, I wonder if the advantage held by Valendia as of 1939 would have been all that different from that which Napoleon held on the eve of his most famous conquests, namely a significant edge in resources that would have made Valendia, especially with industrial-powerhouse Belgium and a good portion of the Netherlands tacked-on, not much less of a continental superpower? Let's look at comparative populations for a second:
Valendia (France+Belgium+Switzerland): ~52 million
Metropolitan Chrinthania (Spain+Portugal): ~33 million
Metropolitan Italy: ~44 million
Geletia (Hungary+Romania+Yugoslavia*+Austria+Bulgaria: ~42 million (plus pieces of Yugoslavia which I'm too lazy to look at)
Byzantium (Turkey+Iraq+Syria+Lebanon): ~24 million
The Shield (Ukraine+Uzbekistan+Kazakhstan+Turkmenistan+Tajikistan+Georgia): ~57 million (potentially much higher, as I did not factor-in the pieces of Russia and Poland that also constitute/constituted the Shield)
So at least in the Southern European theater, the Oakists are definitely at no significant disadvantage to start with in simple population terms, and arguably possess, thanks to Valendia, significant superiority in terms of industry and military means. To my mind anyway, Valendia if left to deal with Chrinthania and Italy free from outside interference might well have enjoyed one gigantic, long-running Operation Compass, especially in Iberia where the terrain is more suitable for armored warfare, and while neither of those Aventine powers was totally un-industrialized, there would have been serious limitations, simply for want of the necessary industrial resources, coal and steel especially, on their ability to match Valendia in a war of production.
I'd imagine that a vital strategic priority for Valendia would have been to unite its Mediterranean and Atlantic Fleets, so in line with that, perhaps Valendia attempted to push straight across the Pillars of Hercules, and thereby involved itself in fighting on terrain that decidedly did not favor its own armored forces, while playing directly to the strengths of local Italian colonial troops? Perhaps the period 1940-1942 in North Africa is characterized by heavy Valendian exertion for relatively limited gain, before, once finally able to defeat Valendia's surface navy in the Atlantic, the arrival of significant Aventine reinforcements allows the Valendian bridgehead to be destroyed, and permits a counter-invasion of Iberia, leading to a second Peninsular War of about 1943-45? Meanwhile maybe Italy proper does a Yugoslavia, and as both Valendia and Geletia draw off more and more troops to fight on other fronts, leaving only a skeleton occupation force and unreliable collaborationist units, Italian partisans, generously supported from North Africa, gain control of larger and larger pieces of territory, eventually more or less liberating themselves with the exception of certain surrounded Oakist enclaves? Italian partisans by 1945 looking an awful lot like a regular army, and facilitating the seizure of power postwar by whatever faction or ideological movement is dominant in their ranks? Basically what's already been said, I suppose.
A brief aside on Eastern Europe, my feeling so far is that a considerably smaller (much of its present-day territory having been Shieldian at that time, thus further boosting Shieldian population numbers) and less-industrialized Gandvik faces conditions not altogether different from those confronting Chrinthania and Italy, though fundamentally different in that the Gandvian Royal Army is far and away better than the Shieldian Army, while Bohemia and Cassanos, in spite of their high industrialization and excellent militaries, lack the population base to sustain a long-running war of attrition, being particularly short on infantry. I also imagine the Oakist alliance being pulled in a lot of different directions by competing interests, Valendia perhaps being prevailed-upon by its allies to back them up with troops and materiel and thereby finding its once-preponderant strength diluted, Cassanos and Bohemia possibly alarmed at the prospect of an excessively powerful Shield and failing to back Ianapalis fully, maybe even reverting to a defensive policy after 1943 or so and signing a separate peace some time in late 1944 or early 1945. Meanwhile, Amerique and Walmington are able to bring their hugely powerful industrial economies to bear, and once masters of the Atlantic are able to pour resources into the European war at a rate which no other power can match. Still, however, diverging interests, particularly as Gandvik attempts to eat-up the entire Shield, coupled with the mounting human toll in Iberia, a conflict which maybe doesn't enjoy universal popularity in either Amerique or Walmington, eventually prompt the Aventines to stop short of total victory, and establish a peace that sets-up Europe as we know it today.
by Nilosahara » Mon Jan 05, 2015 2:01 pm
by Chrinthanium » Mon Jan 05, 2015 9:53 pm
Nilosahara wrote:So....am I in now?
Walmington, I would especially appreciate your thoughts and / or approval as so much of my history is based on interaction with your nation.
by Walmington on Sea » Fri Jan 23, 2015 9:20 pm
Nilosahara wrote:Claim Snip.
by Chrinthanium » Tue Jan 27, 2015 1:19 am
Nilosahara wrote:Claimed Areas
The eastern portion of Zambia (Eastern, Muchinga, Luapula, Northern)
Malawi
Northern portion of Mozambique (Cabo Delgado, Niassa)
by Pemba » Tue Jan 27, 2015 2:58 pm
by Kalvinka » Thu Jan 29, 2015 8:36 am
by Chrinthanium » Thu Jan 29, 2015 2:54 pm
Kalvinka wrote:Official Name: The Kalvinkan Socialist State
Claims: Norway, Sweden, Denmark, and Iceland
Demonym:
Capital: Kavikthad
Motto: Работники Knoew лучшее!
-Translation: The Workers Know Best!
Official Language: Kalvinkan (I use google translate Russian for them)
HistoryThe history of Kalvinka goes well into ancient times, but the national entity of Kalvinka only popped into existence in the year 1745. It was that year that the various warring kingdoms were unified under a single banner. The Kingdom of Kalvinka was a rather liberalistic monarchy that favored laissez faire economics, and supported a powerful aristocracy. Thanks to the policies of the Kingdom, Kalvinka was filled to the brim with poverty and a massive income gap.
All of that changed in 1923 when a Socialist Revolution took place all across the nation. Socialist forces almost immediately took down the monarchy, and executed most supporters of the old regime. The Kalvinkan Socialist State was soon established from the Socialist forces. The new regime heavily prioritized national defense and industry. Which led to the attitude we see in Kalvinka today. Eventually, the focus on industry shifted to a focus on law and order. Allowing the government of Kalvinka to establish the KBIA, and switch from a Socialist Democracy to a Socialist Oligarchy.
Thanks to the focus on controlling the populace, the nation quickly evolved into the form it is in today. Its recent history is rather uneventful due to it remaining unaffiliated with the world powers.
Government:The Government of Kalvinka is a Socialist Oligarchy that keeps a very close eye on its people. The government is ran by "The Kalvinkan People's Party" and in charge of all is the Politburo. The Politburo has control over all major organizations and government functions, excluding appointing new members for itself. The Party shows its control of the nation via the Kalvinkan Bureau of Internal Affairs, which serves as the managing entity for the national police force and as a secret police organization. The KBIA operates in every city and
The Government prioritizes the Military and Law & Order over most other things. The only department that gets close in funding is Education. Despite this massive unbalance in government spending, most programs actually get adequate funding for projects and management.
Members of the Politburo tend to live the most luxurious lives in the Kalvinkan State, and tend to keep their savings in foreign accounts. The reasons why this is so were stated to be "Securing disaster funds for the Kalvinkan Peoples." Despite the Politburo having the largest amount of power in the nation, the nation does have a de facto "ruler". Said "ruler" is KBIA Overseer Feodor Stavich, he maintains tabs on each member of the Politburo and the Communist party. If he wanted to, he could throw a bloodless coup d'etat and declare himself dictator of Kalvinka. However, he hasn't as of now and continues with his current duties.
The Kalvinkan Military is (despite what many would think) a professional force, which has around 53,200 active units. The national armed forces are completely devoted to self-defense, and have not partaken in any foreign conflict. Thanks to the large amounts of funding it receives, the military is modernized and trained. The military is currently expanding the naval areas in order to defend trade in the zones around the nation.
Society:Kalvinkan society is very stable due to the oppressive regime in place at the moment. With large amounts of patriotism shown in the populace due to government funded "Childhood Encouragement" programs being in every school. Overall, most of Kalvinkan society (62%) is very loyal to the nation and the government. Kalvinkan culture is very protected by the government, while other cultures are just tolerated (borderline separate but equal). Old relics from ancient Kalvinkans are found all throughout the Southern provinces, and are always placed under protection in order to preserve Kalvinkan heritage.
Kalvinka's cities are filled with monuments to the people, and old buildings built by older regimes in the nation. Large amounts of the old buildings tend to be old churches and other various places of worship. Some of these old areas are used as places of refuge for those being labeled "enemies of the state", and thanks to this, most old religious buildings are torn down if spotted. As a result of the constant tearing down of old buildings, many have expressed concern that Kalvinka is losing the idea of its cultural heritage. Thus leading to many protesting and petitioning for this behavior to stop. Of course, most people that have tried doing this have either disappeared or were sent to the prisons up North.
Religion in Kalvinka is in a very weakened state due to the State Atheist system being in place. 64.2% of the nation has been identified as "Irreligious", and 30% identified as "Agnostic". Religion is a highly frowned upon idea in the nation, as religious insitutions constantly find themselves in trouble with the Kalvinkan authorities. The religious population is made up mostly of Protestant and Orthodox christians, with a tiny population of Muslims. Thanks to the large amount of religious discrimination, most anti-government demonstrations are orchestrated by the small religious minority. Now of course, said demonstrations are dealt with swiftly and..... creatively.
Economy:The economy is rather mediocre due to the government not completely utilizing the oil reserves in the Northern territories, along with the misuse of other raw materials and opportunities. Trade is extremely vital to the Kalvinkan economy as 45% of income comes from trade along the Baltic and North sea. Programs are being put in place to have more factories placed across the nation in order to increase the amount of industrial revenue. A large portion of the national budget is used for defense and law and order. Large amounts of money are also spent on government programs to increase the amount of patriotism in the populace (See the Society area).
Large amounts of raw materials, if not traded, are used in order to develop the nation's infrastructure and agricultural developments. Kalvinka has large highways going from city to city and large farms in the southern regions due to this attitude with raw materials. The Island of Patroskavd, however, is highly undeveloped due to its distance from the mainland. Thanks to this, opportunities in developing tourism and geothermal power production are being left un-noticed.
Population: (After a good amount of estimating things) 21.2 Million
GDP (Nominal):
Total: $726 Billion
Per Capita: $23,123
Currency: Kalvinkan Ruble
I hope everything checks out! I look forward to being a part of your group!
by Beddgelert » Thu Jan 29, 2015 7:41 pm
by Chrinthanium » Thu Jan 29, 2015 10:04 pm
Beddgelert wrote:Aye, it's a bit simplistic, and there appear to be some mathematical errors (I think the population would be just under 20 million, no?), but I don't see any solid reason to oppose, and it'd be good to have some new blood.
Strikes me a little bit as Scandinavian-Socialists, and Socialists-are-Baddies, but that's fine, the CSR will just help them to wipe-out dissenters and then have the corrupt leadership assassinated, so it'll all work out.
Notably, two German states, just under 4.5 million people, will be left unclaimed, here. Whether they should remain Dragonland, join Nibelunc, or join the prospective new nation maybe should be addressed.
by Amerique » Fri Jan 30, 2015 12:29 am
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