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Coccygia
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Postby Coccygia » Sun Jan 25, 2015 2:05 pm

Sosi wrote:
Kenora County wrote:This is an English-speaking forum, buddy.

Those weren't arabic characters; you ought to be able to infer meaning from your knowledge of latin (a big part of english).

That was not Latin, either. Looks like the Exordium from the Koran, though.
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Postby Transoxthraxia » Sun Jan 25, 2015 2:06 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
-United Islamic Emirate- wrote:
I wouldn't have a hedonist friend in the first place.


Why not? We're the best :p

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Where must we go, we who wander this wasteland, in search for our better selves?
In Egypt's sandy silence, all alone,
Stands a gigantic Leg, which far off throws
The only shadow that the Desert knows:—
"I am great OZYMANDIAS," saith the stone,
"The King of Kings; this mighty City shows
"The wonders of my hand." The City's gone,
Nought but the Leg remaining to disclose
The site of this forgotten Babylon.

We wonder, and some Hunter may express
Wonder like ours, when thro' the wilderness
Where London stood, holding the Wolf in chace,
He meets some fragment huge, and stops to guess
What powerful but unrecorded race
Once dwelt in that annihilated place.
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Postby -United Islamic Emirate- » Sun Jan 25, 2015 2:06 pm

Transoxthraxia wrote:
-United Islamic Emirate- wrote:
I wouldn't have a hedonist friend in the first place.

Well, see, now you're being a bit hypocritical.


How? Islam says not to accociete your freindship with the non-believers.
نحن أبناء الإسلام التي أثارها الهدى والنور من الاسود مثل الشيخ أسامة ورفيقه أيمن مليئة شجاعة مثل أبو مصعب والأمير خطاب نموذجنا دور محمد الحبيب هو لدينا الضوء والمعلم ويترك كافة الأمر إلى الله
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Wolfmanne
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Postby Wolfmanne » Sun Jan 25, 2015 2:06 pm

Kenora County wrote:
Sosi wrote:Those weren't arabic characters; you ought to be able to infer meaning from your knowledge of latin (a big part of english).


Sorry but
You shouldn't babble a bunch of nonsense in a foreign language in an English forum
say what you have to say in Englosuj

Don't be a dick. It's Arabic for a common Islamic introduction. Treat it with respect.

Anyway, I'm a Catholic. Don't really have any strong opinions on Islam. To me it's just another religion. I do sympathise with the struggles that a Muslim has to go through (i.e. being called a terrorist etc) and I am strongly against Islamophobia, but I don't have much care for Islam itself. I'm just against discrimination.
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The Lotophagi
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Postby The Lotophagi » Sun Jan 25, 2015 2:06 pm

-United Islamic Emirate- wrote:
Transoxthraxia wrote:That he isn't.

Islam in the West should be the same as every other religion in the West, meaning that it shouldn't get any special treatment.

I never said it should. But we do need to he closer as a whole we are the Ummah's representation in the west outside the Ummah.

Ummah means the muslim's land or nation.


The West is already part of the Dar al-Islam.

Wikipedia wrote:Muslim scholars maintain and believe that the labeling of a country or place as being a part of Dar al-Islam revolves around the question of religious security. This means that if a Muslim practices Islam freely in his place of abode even though that place happens to be secular or un-Islamic, then he will be considered as living in the Dar al-Islam.

Dar al-Islam is also known and referred to as Dar al-Salam, or house/abode of Peace. The term appears in the Koran in 10.25 and 6.127 as a name of Paradise.[2]

According to Abu Hanifa, considered to be the originator of the concept, the two requirements for a country to be part of Dar al-Islam are:[3][4]

Muslims must be able to enjoy peace and security with and within this country.
It has common frontiers with some Muslim countries.


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Mike the Progressive
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Postby Mike the Progressive » Sun Jan 25, 2015 2:07 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Sosi wrote:Those weren't arabic characters; you ought to be able to infer meaning from your knowledge of latin (a big part of english).

Arabic and Latin have nothing to do with each other.


Except they both sound silly. Just like Vietnamese. Every time I hear it, I get flashbacks... to when I was a kid and saw all those Vietnam themed movies with the Sheen clan in them.

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Kenora County
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Postby Kenora County » Sun Jan 25, 2015 2:08 pm

Wolfmanne wrote:Don't be a dick. It's Arabic for a common Islamic introduction. Treat it with respect.


well maybe he should introduce himself like that in an arabic forum, ever thought of tht?
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Postby -United Islamic Emirate- » Sun Jan 25, 2015 2:08 pm

Wolfmanne wrote:
Kenora County wrote:
Sorry but
You shouldn't babble a bunch of nonsense in a foreign language in an English forum
say what you have to say in Englosuj

Don't be a dick. It's Arabic for a common Islamic introduction. Treat it with respect.

Anyway, I'm a Catholic. Don't really have any strong opinions on Islam. To me it's just another religion. I do sympathise with the struggles that a Muslim has to go through (i.e. being called a terrorist etc) and I am strongly against Islamophobia, but I don't have much care for Islam itself. I'm just against discrimination.


And for this I respect you.
نحن أبناء الإسلام التي أثارها الهدى والنور من الاسود مثل الشيخ أسامة ورفيقه أيمن مليئة شجاعة مثل أبو مصعب والأمير خطاب نموذجنا دور محمد الحبيب هو لدينا الضوء والمعلم ويترك كافة الأمر إلى الله
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Postby Transoxthraxia » Sun Jan 25, 2015 2:08 pm

-United Islamic Emirate- wrote:
Transoxthraxia wrote:Well, see, now you're being a bit hypocritical.


How? Islam says not to accociete your freindship with the non-believers.

Then I don't want you in my country. If you won't associate with me, I won't associate with you. I don't stone homosexuals to death because the Bible tells me to do so, you shouldn't take the Qur'an so literally.

I'm intolerant of intolerance.

>inb4 I get torn apart by the apologists on General.
Last edited by Transoxthraxia on Sun Jan 25, 2015 2:08 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Where must we go, we who wander this wasteland, in search for our better selves?
In Egypt's sandy silence, all alone,
Stands a gigantic Leg, which far off throws
The only shadow that the Desert knows:—
"I am great OZYMANDIAS," saith the stone,
"The King of Kings; this mighty City shows
"The wonders of my hand." The City's gone,
Nought but the Leg remaining to disclose
The site of this forgotten Babylon.

We wonder, and some Hunter may express
Wonder like ours, when thro' the wilderness
Where London stood, holding the Wolf in chace,
He meets some fragment huge, and stops to guess
What powerful but unrecorded race
Once dwelt in that annihilated place.
The Nuclear Fist wrote:Transoxthraxia confirmed for shit taste

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Postby Sosi » Sun Jan 25, 2015 2:08 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Sosi wrote:Those weren't arabic characters; you ought to be able to infer meaning from your knowledge of latin (a big part of english).

Arabic and Latin have nothing to do with each other.

Arabic and Latin are all one process to a turk.
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Postby Mike the Progressive » Sun Jan 25, 2015 2:08 pm

Wolfmanne wrote:
Kenora County wrote:
Sorry but
You shouldn't babble a bunch of nonsense in a foreign language in an English forum
say what you have to say in Englosuj

Don't be a dick. It's Arabic for a common Islamic introduction. Treat it with respect.

Anyway, I'm a Catholic. Don't really have any strong opinions on Islam. To me it's just another religion. I do sympathise with the struggles that a Muslim has to go through (i.e. being called a terrorist etc) and I am strongly against Islamophobia, but I don't have much care for Islam itself. I'm just against discrimination.


Ironically (well maybe not), the OP supports al Qaeda.

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Postby Wolfmanne » Sun Jan 25, 2015 2:09 pm

Mike the Progressive wrote:
Wolfmanne wrote:Don't be a dick. It's Arabic for a common Islamic introduction. Treat it with respect.

Anyway, I'm a Catholic. Don't really have any strong opinions on Islam. To me it's just another religion. I do sympathise with the struggles that a Muslim has to go through (i.e. being called a terrorist etc) and I am strongly against Islamophobia, but I don't have much care for Islam itself. I'm just against discrimination.


Ironically (well maybe not), the OP supports al Qaeda.

Please tell me you're joking?
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Postby Annihilators of Chan Island » Sun Jan 25, 2015 2:10 pm

-United Islamic Emirate- wrote:
Transoxthraxia wrote:Well, see, now you're being a bit hypocritical.


How? Islam says not to accociete your freindship with the non-believers.


Really? Come on....

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Postby Transoxthraxia » Sun Jan 25, 2015 2:10 pm

Wolfmanne wrote:
Mike the Progressive wrote:
Ironically (well maybe not), the OP supports al Qaeda.

Please tell me you're joking?

No, he does.
Where must we go, we who wander this wasteland, in search for our better selves?
In Egypt's sandy silence, all alone,
Stands a gigantic Leg, which far off throws
The only shadow that the Desert knows:—
"I am great OZYMANDIAS," saith the stone,
"The King of Kings; this mighty City shows
"The wonders of my hand." The City's gone,
Nought but the Leg remaining to disclose
The site of this forgotten Babylon.

We wonder, and some Hunter may express
Wonder like ours, when thro' the wilderness
Where London stood, holding the Wolf in chace,
He meets some fragment huge, and stops to guess
What powerful but unrecorded race
Once dwelt in that annihilated place.
The Nuclear Fist wrote:Transoxthraxia confirmed for shit taste

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Postby -United Islamic Emirate- » Sun Jan 25, 2015 2:10 pm

Transoxthraxia wrote:
-United Islamic Emirate- wrote:
How? Islam says not to accociete your freindship with the non-believers.

Then I don't want you in my country. If you won't associate with me, I won't associate with you. I don't stone homosexuals to death because the Bible tells me to do so, you shouldn't take the Qur'an so literally.

I'm intolerant of intolerance.

>inb4 I get torn apart by the apologists on General.

The Qu'uran not being taken seriously is a sin with it's self and Im not afraid of the blame of the blamers.
نحن أبناء الإسلام التي أثارها الهدى والنور من الاسود مثل الشيخ أسامة ورفيقه أيمن مليئة شجاعة مثل أبو مصعب والأمير خطاب نموذجنا دور محمد الحبيب هو لدينا الضوء والمعلم ويترك كافة الأمر إلى الله
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Postby Acro » Sun Jan 25, 2015 2:11 pm

Hello friend :)
Im Shia Muslims, though I am not very good with it. I do my prayers, and I intend to go to Mecca for the Hajj as soon as I am able. But I disregard many rules (pork for example) Im pretty liberal with my Islam, and I don't hide it, but I also don't go around "HEY IM MUSLIM" if someone asks I answer.
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Postby Macbeth » Sun Jan 25, 2015 2:11 pm

I welcome any person of the Muslim faith to Canada or the "West" as long as they wish to adhere to our values and principles and try not to press their beliefs on others, and I'd say that to a Christian, a Buddhist, an Atheist - anyone. Respect the beliefs of others, be tolerant, open, respectful, adhere to our laws and what not, and everyone should get along. (Emphasis on should - here's hoping.)

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Postby Mike the Progressive » Sun Jan 25, 2015 2:11 pm

Wolfmanne wrote:
Mike the Progressive wrote:
Ironically (well maybe not), the OP supports al Qaeda.

Please tell me you're joking?


Not something I'd joke about.

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Postby Transoxthraxia » Sun Jan 25, 2015 2:12 pm

-United Islamic Emirate- wrote:
Transoxthraxia wrote:Then I don't want you in my country. If you won't associate with me, I won't associate with you. I don't stone homosexuals to death because the Bible tells me to do so, you shouldn't take the Qur'an so literally.

I'm intolerant of intolerance.

>inb4 I get torn apart by the apologists on General.

The Qu'uran not being taken seriously is a sin with it's self and Im not afraid of the blame of the blamers.

Macbeth wrote:I welcome any person of the Muslim faith to Canada or the "West" as long as they wish to adhere to our values and principles and try not to press their beliefs on others, and I'd say that to a Christian, a Buddhist, an Atheist - anyone. Respect the beliefs of others, be tolerant, open, respectful, adhere to our laws and what not, and everyone should get along. (Emphasis on should - here's hoping.)


The irony is almost sickening.
Where must we go, we who wander this wasteland, in search for our better selves?
In Egypt's sandy silence, all alone,
Stands a gigantic Leg, which far off throws
The only shadow that the Desert knows:—
"I am great OZYMANDIAS," saith the stone,
"The King of Kings; this mighty City shows
"The wonders of my hand." The City's gone,
Nought but the Leg remaining to disclose
The site of this forgotten Babylon.

We wonder, and some Hunter may express
Wonder like ours, when thro' the wilderness
Where London stood, holding the Wolf in chace,
He meets some fragment huge, and stops to guess
What powerful but unrecorded race
Once dwelt in that annihilated place.
The Nuclear Fist wrote:Transoxthraxia confirmed for shit taste

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Postby Sosi » Sun Jan 25, 2015 2:12 pm

Kenora County wrote:
Sosi wrote:Then why the fuck is Lewis Carroll a renowned writer?


He was also a pedophile

He wasn't.
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Postby -United Islamic Emirate- » Sun Jan 25, 2015 2:12 pm

Acro wrote:Hello friend :)
Im Shia Muslims, though I am not very good with it. I do my prayers, and I intend to go to Mecca for the Hajj as soon as I am able. But I disregard many rules (pork for example) Im pretty liberal with my Islam, and I don't hide it, but I also don't go around "HEY IM MUSLIM" if someone asks I answer.


Why on earth would you consume pork?
نحن أبناء الإسلام التي أثارها الهدى والنور من الاسود مثل الشيخ أسامة ورفيقه أيمن مليئة شجاعة مثل أبو مصعب والأمير خطاب نموذجنا دور محمد الحبيب هو لدينا الضوء والمعلم ويترك كافة الأمر إلى الله
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun Jan 25, 2015 2:13 pm

-United Islamic Emirate- wrote:
Acro wrote:Hello friend :)
Im Shia Muslims, though I am not very good with it. I do my prayers, and I intend to go to Mecca for the Hajj as soon as I am able. But I disregard many rules (pork for example) Im pretty liberal with my Islam, and I don't hide it, but I also don't go around "HEY IM MUSLIM" if someone asks I answer.


Why on earth would you consume pork?


Because it's delicious.
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Postby Macbeth » Sun Jan 25, 2015 2:13 pm

Transoxthraxia wrote:
-United Islamic Emirate- wrote:The Qu'uran not being taken seriously is a sin with it's self and Im not afraid of the blame of the blamers.

Macbeth wrote:I welcome any person of the Muslim faith to Canada or the "West" as long as they wish to adhere to our values and principles and try not to press their beliefs on others, and I'd say that to a Christian, a Buddhist, an Atheist - anyone. Respect the beliefs of others, be tolerant, open, respectful, adhere to our laws and what not, and everyone should get along. (Emphasis on should - here's hoping.)


The irony is almost sickening.


I tried. *sigh*

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Postby Geilinor » Sun Jan 25, 2015 2:13 pm

-United Islamic Emirate- wrote:
Acro wrote:Hello friend :)
Im Shia Muslims, though I am not very good with it. I do my prayers, and I intend to go to Mecca for the Hajj as soon as I am able. But I disregard many rules (pork for example) Im pretty liberal with my Islam, and I don't hide it, but I also don't go around "HEY IM MUSLIM" if someone asks I answer.


Why on earth would you consume pork?

It's his choice.
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Postby Mike the Progressive » Sun Jan 25, 2015 2:14 pm

Sosi wrote:
Kenora County wrote:
He was also a pedophile

He wasn't.


Sure and Hans Anderson really just wanted shaving tips from Charles Dicken's son.

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