My suspicion was that it wasn't so much sarcasm as exaggeration to make a point, but again, I won't speak for Gauthier.
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by Yumyumsuppertime » Sat Dec 20, 2014 2:27 am
by Nazi Flower Power » Sat Dec 20, 2014 2:42 am
by Malavya » Sat Dec 20, 2014 2:55 am
by Tsaraine » Sat Dec 20, 2014 3:01 am
Myrensis wrote:
What do you mean too late? McCulloch knew about it.
He chose to present witnesses he knew, or strongly suspected, were lying anyway, because remember he wanted the Grand Jury to be 'fair'.
But remember kids, any suggestions that our judicial system could be flawed or biased in any way is just an excuse people use to avoid talking about the black culture of crime and violence.
by Yumyumsuppertime » Sat Dec 20, 2014 3:40 am
Tsaraine wrote:Myrensis wrote:
What do you mean too late? McCulloch knew about it.
He chose to present witnesses he knew, or strongly suspected, were lying anyway, because remember he wanted the Grand Jury to be 'fair'.
But remember kids, any suggestions that our judicial system could be flawed or biased in any way is just an excuse people use to avoid talking about the black culture of crime and violence.
Well, that's wonderful. I'm not up on the legal stuffs, I know people can't be tried for the same stuff twice, but is there any way in which a grand jury can be invalidated for egregious fuckups and get a do-over? Because it's looking a lot like this thing is an egregious fuckup. I'm hoping that the DOJ investigation won't end up being an egregious fuckup, whatever conclusion it comes to, but egregious fuckuppery seems to be contagious where this case is concerned.
by Ashmoria » Sat Dec 20, 2014 6:41 am
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:Tsaraine wrote:Well, that's wonderful. I'm not up on the legal stuffs, I know people can't be tried for the same stuff twice, but is there any way in which a grand jury can be invalidated for egregious fuckups and get a do-over? Because it's looking a lot like this thing is an egregious fuckup. I'm hoping that the DOJ investigation won't end up being an egregious fuckup, whatever conclusion it comes to, but egregious fuckuppery seems to be contagious where this case is concerned.
I believe that since the case never went to trial, double jeopardy wouldn't apply. However, I could be wrong, and will happily bow to those with greater legal knowledge than my own.
by Yumyumsuppertime » Sat Dec 20, 2014 6:43 am
Ashmoria wrote:Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
I believe that since the case never went to trial, double jeopardy wouldn't apply. However, I could be wrong, and will happily bow to those with greater legal knowledge than my own.
I am confident in saying that there is no double jeopardy.
and equally confident that the Missouri bar wont be investigating mcculloch for suborning perjury--putting a person on the stand who you know is going to lie is illegal.
by Ashmoria » Sat Dec 20, 2014 6:45 am
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:Ashmoria wrote:
I am confident in saying that there is no double jeopardy.
and equally confident that the Missouri bar wont be investigating mcculloch for suborning perjury--putting a person on the stand who you know is going to lie is illegal.
Yeah, once I remembered the phrase from endless Law & Order marathons, I looked it up, and that's almost certainly what he did...and he'll almost certainly get away with it, too.
by Yumyumsuppertime » Sat Dec 20, 2014 6:48 am
Ashmoria wrote:Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Yeah, once I remembered the phrase from endless Law & Order marathons, I looked it up, and that's almost certainly what he did...and he'll almost certainly get away with it, too.
it is so illegal, unethical, corrupt, etc that it is chilling to know that there is no chance that he will have to pay for it. he'll probably end up as governor of Missouri for the way he handled this case.
by Ashmoria » Sat Dec 20, 2014 6:55 am
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:Ashmoria wrote:it is so illegal, unethical, corrupt, etc that it is chilling to know that there is no chance that he will have to pay for it. he'll probably end up as governor of Missouri for the way he handled this case.
Yes, well, it was all in the name of defending our boys in blue, and what D.A. is going to want to take him on for that? He'll be a poor man's Oliver North, doing what was necessary to save the police from those filthycommiesniggersthugs.
by Des-Bal » Mon Dec 22, 2014 2:30 pm
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Yes, well, it was all in the name of defending our boys in blue, and what D.A. is going to want to take him on for that? He'll be a poor man's Oliver North, doing what was necessary to save the police from those filthycommiesniggersthugs.
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by Yumyumsuppertime » Mon Dec 22, 2014 2:37 pm
Des-Bal wrote:Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Yes, well, it was all in the name of defending our boys in blue, and what D.A. is going to want to take him on for that? He'll be a poor man's Oliver North, doing what was necessary to save the police from those filthycommiesniggersthugs.
Accusations of racism are great because they don't need to be steeped in reality.
by Yumyumsuppertime » Mon Dec 22, 2014 8:29 pm
Toronina wrote:It just seems the whole Grand Jury was trying to get him off, not caring if he was guilty or not
by Ravenflight » Wed Dec 24, 2014 5:19 am
by Ravenflight » Wed Dec 24, 2014 5:53 am
by -Ebola- » Wed Dec 24, 2014 6:07 am
Ravenflight wrote:As Jester would say, "Tango Down" http://www.channel4.com/news/police-sho ... y-ferguson
by Xerusia » Fri Dec 26, 2014 8:42 am
-Ebola- wrote:Ravenflight wrote:As Jester would say, "Tango Down" http://www.channel4.com/news/police-sho ... y-ferguson
Now I know why everyone has forgotten about me and decided to worry about police officers instead....
Stay classy, Missouri.
by Greed and Death » Sun Dec 28, 2014 10:58 pm
by Sebastianbourg » Mon Dec 29, 2014 12:39 am
-Ebola- wrote:Ravenflight wrote:As Jester would say, "Tango Down" http://www.channel4.com/news/police-sho ... y-ferguson
Now I know why everyone has forgotten about me and decided to worry about police officers instead....
Stay classy, Missouri.
by Big Jim P » Mon Dec 29, 2014 12:44 am
greed and death wrote:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/28/joshua-williams-charged-arson_n_6386694.html?utm_hp_ref=black-voices&ir=Black%20Voices
Wow. Protester who called fr peaceful demonstration is now being charged with arson.
That is a surprise.
by Fireye » Mon Dec 29, 2014 6:36 am
greed and death wrote:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/28/joshua-williams-charged-arson_n_6386694.html?utm_hp_ref=black-voices&ir=Black%20Voices
Wow. Protester who called fr peaceful demonstration is now being charged with arson.
That is a surprise.
by Liriena » Mon Dec 29, 2014 7:10 am
greed and death wrote:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/28/joshua-williams-charged-arson_n_6386694.html?utm_hp_ref=black-voices&ir=Black%20Voices
Wow. Protester who called fr peaceful demonstration is now being charged with arson.
That is a surprise.
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by Gauthier » Mon Dec 29, 2014 8:49 am
Liriena wrote:greed and death wrote:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/28/joshua-williams-charged-arson_n_6386694.html?utm_hp_ref=black-voices&ir=Black%20Voices
Wow. Protester who called fr peaceful demonstration is now being charged with arson.
That is a surprise.
If true, then this guy is remarkably despicable and dishonest, using a perfectly positive sentiment when in the spotlight, then betraying it when nobody is looking.
by Liriena » Mon Dec 29, 2014 9:05 am
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