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Postby Christmahanikwanzikah » Thu Jun 03, 2010 1:59 am

Win a soccer game by more than five points and you lose, Ottawa league says

National Post wrote:In yet another nod to the protection of fledgling self-esteem, an Ottawa children’s soccer league has introduced a rule that says any team that wins a game by more than five points will lose by default.

The Gloucester Dragons Recreational Soccer league’s newly implemented edict is intended to dissuade a runaway game in favour of sportsmanship. The rule replaces its five-point mercy regulation, whereby any points scored beyond a five-point differential would not be registered.

Kevin Cappon said he first heard about the rule on May 20 — right after he had scored his team’s last allowable goal. His team then tossed the ball around for fear of losing the game.

He said if anything, the league’s new rule will coddle sore losers.

“They should be saying anything is possible. If we can get five goals really fast, well, so can the other team,” said Kevin, 17, who has played in the league for five years. “People grow in adversity, they don’t really get worse…. I think you’ll see more leadership skills being used if a losing team tries to recuperate than if they never got into that situation at all.”


http://news.nationalpost.com/2010/06/01 ... ague-says/

As a competitor, I'm (naturally) disgusted. It's ridiculous to tell a competitor in any sport to let up because the other team can't beat you. Sure, you don't steal a base when you're up 10 runs, you don't throw deep passes when your American football team is up by 40 points, you don't keep sending through balls to your ace striker when your team is up 5 or 6 goals, and you don't dance your ass off if you're up big and do something to help your team go up more in any sport.

But this essentially tells someone that it's in bad taste to excel above your peers, that everyone will go easy on you when things get tough, that you needn't lose too badly, but only badly enough.

Personally, there's no better motivator for me to do better than when I get my ass handed to me when I feel like I'm more than prepared enough to achieve victory. Sometimes you even have to lose terribly to realize how much more you need to improve.

I feel that the only rule that could be any more gutless than this one is if both teams get a point for every goal scored. That way, no one wins.
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Postby Former Principalities » Thu Jun 03, 2010 2:04 am

What is this? Encouraging kids not to try their hardest? Sounds like a complete joke...

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Postby Sharfghotten » Thu Jun 03, 2010 2:07 am

They're eroding traditional American values of being better!

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Postby Equimanthon » Thu Jun 03, 2010 2:09 am

This is bloody stupid. How dare they limit the abilities of these children in such a way? Ridiculous.
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Postby Strathy » Thu Jun 03, 2010 2:12 am

Words cannot sufficiently describe just how stupid this is. If this were to happen in real life, Partick Thistle would be at the top of the SPL, but Rangers would be very close to the bottom, so I suppose that's allright. Still, utter shite desision, only in America/Canada/Where ever you said this was, could this actually be passed.

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Postby Christmahanikwanzikah » Thu Jun 03, 2010 2:15 am

FYI: Ottawa is in Canada.

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Thu Jun 03, 2010 2:16 am

I played soccer for eight years...eight years, and I called it soccer...suck it...anyway, eight fucking years of games and I honestly don't remember winning or losing a single fucking game. 'Cause, like, I was a kid and kind of didn't give a shit. I'm sure I was excited when I won and bummed when I lost, but none of that stuck. Cause I was a kid, and I was alternately stoked and bummed at pretty much any given time. Maybe it was through sport that I realized that sometimes you win, and sometimes you lose, maybe I always knew. Maybe I didn't give a shit because I was a kid and what was important was after the game we were going to Round Table and they totally have a Pole Position game.
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Postby South Norwega » Thu Jun 03, 2010 2:17 am

Christmahanikwanzikah wrote:FYI: Ottawa is in Canada.

Canada is just a myth spread to scare children.

Regardless, this decision is absolutely ridiculous.
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Postby Strathy » Thu Jun 03, 2010 2:17 am

Christmahanikwanzikah wrote:FYI: Ottawa is in Canada.


I know that, I just forgot what the name of the city in the post was.
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Postby Dehn » Thu Jun 03, 2010 2:19 am

Football is won by goals not points. :palm:
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Postby Risottia » Thu Jun 03, 2010 2:19 am

Solution:

When you're winning by more than 5 goals, just score own goals enough and continue playing. I think it will humiliate the losing team even more.
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Postby Christmahanikwanzikah » Thu Jun 03, 2010 2:20 am

Cannot think of a name wrote:I played soccer for eight years...eight years, and I called it soccer...suck it...anyway, eight fucking years of games and I honestly don't remember winning or losing a single fucking game. 'Cause, like, I was a kid and kind of didn't give a shit. I'm sure I was excited when I won and bummed when I lost, but none of that stuck. Cause I was a kid, and I was alternately stoked and bummed at pretty much any given time. Maybe it was through sport that I realized that sometimes you win, and sometimes you lose, maybe I always knew. Maybe I didn't give a shit because I was a kid and what was important was after the game we were going to Round Table and they totally have a Pole Position game.


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Postby Christmahanikwanzikah » Thu Jun 03, 2010 2:22 am

Dehn wrote:Football is won by goals not points. :palm:


Totally the issue at bat here.

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Postby Christmahanikwanzikah » Thu Jun 03, 2010 2:23 am

On a completely related tangent, I feel like posting links to about 20 different Coach McGuirk speeches on YouTube.

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Postby Hamilay » Thu Jun 03, 2010 2:25 am

This is soccer, though, nobody ever scores goals and people are disgusted when their team loses by 2 goals. If you beat another team 5-0 it probably involves toddlers being matched against 17 year olds or the USA Monaco being matched against Brazil.

As you can tell I am a soccer expert
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Postby Dehn » Thu Jun 03, 2010 2:25 am

Christmahanikwanzikah wrote:
Dehn wrote:Football is won by goals not points. :palm:


Totally the issue at bat here.



To be fair if I didn't understand the most basic rule of a sport, I'd also make a fucked up rule that ruins it.
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Postby Mighty Brittania » Thu Jun 03, 2010 2:26 am

Score 5 goals, surround your goal so the ball can't get through?
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Postby Christmahanikwanzikah » Thu Jun 03, 2010 2:29 am

Dehn wrote:
Christmahanikwanzikah wrote:
Dehn wrote:Football is won by goals not points. :palm:


Totally the issue at bat here.



To be fair if I didn't understand the most basic rule of a sport, I'd also make a fucked up rule that ruins it.


:P

So, what, you're saying if I make a rule that a team that goes up 10 runs over an opponent at any time in a cricket match wins, that I'd be making a foolish mistake?

>.>

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Postby Strathy » Thu Jun 03, 2010 2:32 am

Christmahanikwanzikah wrote:
Dehn wrote:
Christmahanikwanzikah wrote:
Dehn wrote:Football is won by goals not points. :palm:


Totally the issue at bat here.



To be fair if I didn't understand the most basic rule of a sport, I'd also make a fucked up rule that ruins it.


:P

So, what, you're saying if I make a rule that a team that goes up 10 runs over an opponent at any time in a cricket match wins, that I'd be making a foolish mistake?

>.>


Couldn't we? I mean cricket is so long and boring. This would speed it up a bit.
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Postby Dehn » Thu Jun 03, 2010 2:35 am

Strathy wrote::P

So, what, you're saying if I make a rule that a team that goes up 10 runs over an opponent at any time in a cricket match wins, that I'd be making a foolish mistake?

>.>


Couldn't we? I mean cricket is so long and boring. This would speed it up a bit.[/quote]


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Postby Gwarmos » Thu Jun 03, 2010 2:37 am

I don't think I've ever won or lost a football game with a five goal difference....

Regardless, this rule is just going to set a bad example for kids in sports.

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Postby Nobel Hobos » Thu Jun 03, 2010 2:38 am

I think you'd have to introduce another rule along with that. Own goals don't count.

Otherwise it stops being le Football. More like capture the flag ... just get the ball somewhere near your goalie, and he can pick it up and carry it into the goal ...
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Postby Anbrig » Thu Jun 03, 2010 2:39 am

:palm:
Stupidest thing I've ever heard, I think. It just says "Don't bother going all out on your opponents" - no, wait, it says "Don't go all out on your opponents". I'm not a sports player, but I think that telling people to deliberately hold back their ability so someone else doesn't get their ass handed to them is bad for both sides.
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Postby Rambhutan » Thu Jun 03, 2010 2:43 am

So after scoring five own goals who wins?
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