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by Benuty » Sun Dec 07, 2014 4:09 pm
by Immoren » Sun Dec 07, 2014 4:16 pm
discoursedrome wrote:everyone knows that quote, "I know not what weapons World War Three will be fought, but World War Four will be fought with sticks and stones," but in a way it's optimistic and inspiring because it suggests that even after destroying civilization and returning to the stone age we'll still be sufficiently globalized and bellicose to have another world war right then and there
by The Union of Tentacles and Grapes » Sun Dec 07, 2014 4:18 pm
by Pragia » Sun Dec 07, 2014 5:30 pm
Vox populi est autem Vox de Humus wrote:1. Care to have a source other than saying "lol bible." Maybe give a link/verse.
2. Please tell me how a rank and title makes someone not equal to one another? In catholic/Christian views, everyone is judged evenly in the eyes of God, pope or pauper, everyone is equal
3. The incest point means what or proves what? Genesis is a creation story, not factual.
4. Thou shalt not kill. Kain killed Abel, and was punished with exile. It enforces the idea of Thou shalt not kill, not contradicts it
5. Please, start quoting all these contradictions you claim to have, I'd need to brush up on my theology. But I believe New overrides Old Testament, rendering most contradictions moot.
6. A little grammar and structure wouldn't kill you would it?
by Tarsonis Survivors » Sun Dec 07, 2014 7:06 pm
Pragia wrote:-snip-
by Vox populi est autem Vox de Humus » Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:03 pm
Pragia wrote:Vox populi est autem Vox de Humus wrote:1. Care to have a source other than saying "lol bible." Maybe give a link/verse.
2. Please tell me how a rank and title makes someone not equal to one another? In catholic/Christian views, everyone is judged evenly in the eyes of God, pope or pauper, everyone is equal
3. The incest point means what or proves what? Genesis is a creation story, not factual.
4. Thou shalt not kill. Kain killed Abel, and was punished with exile. It enforces the idea of Thou shalt not kill, not contradicts it
5. Please, start quoting all these contradictions you claim to have, I'd need to brush up on my theology. But I believe New overrides Old Testament, rendering most contradictions moot.
6. A little grammar and structure wouldn't kill you would it?
1. Did you not see the words "I'll admit I know little" it only just up there, Are you not Christian enough to enlighten me?, In what it states and rectify what i have heard, right the wrongs? It may or may not state word for word but this is how i hear it, through other Christians / Born again Christians as they interpret it. Do you really expect detailed references from a non Christian?, would'nt god say that it is your job to rectify my thinking not to judge my knowledge and ability :eyebrow:
2. Please tell me how it does? can you ride the popes cart? will you be able to view holy documents and objects under the vatican at anytime because you are equal :rofl: No, why? because you are seen as a peseant below them as all people they look upon and/or are scared the truths will be reveled ;) Did you see the arch bishop give any campers shelter no "get off my lawn" equal lol
3a.errr "thou shall not" Oh come on :eyebrow: sheeesh 3b. Are you sure you read what i wrote Not factual i know, Hence story :bow: :rofl: Is this really a story that should be told, AND IS ALSO preached as TRUTH by some Christians this may or may not be your views.
4. "And was punished" is after the fact :) so a contradiction. but I am understanding the mass control need for enforcement with the scary exile.
5.Please Enlighten me as to where I state I claim I have these contradictions :unsure: "I could have quoted" is not I have contradictions, do you need glasses? I think google may have the contradictions as mentioned link to follow ;) http://www.answering-christianity.com/1 ... ctions.htm
"But I believe New overrides Old Testament, rendering most contradictions moot" maybe some/most people are stuck in transition eh?
6.Can I say the same? Yes maybe I have the same sort of case to argue for Grammar and Proof Reading or is it a Glasses thing.
Or can I argue maybe you should be educated enough to make sense of any text? I know im not but i can;)
I hope this little extra Grammar and Structure is too your needs, Oh yes it nearly killed me :rofl:
Pragia wrote:Vox populi est autem Vox de Humus wrote:1. Care to have a source other than saying "lol bible." Maybe give a link/verse.
2. Please tell me how a rank and title makes someone not equal to one another? In catholic/Christian views, everyone is judged evenly in the eyes of God, pope or pauper, everyone is equal
3. The incest point means what or proves what? Genesis is a creation story, not factual.
4. Thou shalt not kill. Kain killed Abel, and was punished with exile. It enforces the idea of Thou shalt not kill, not contradicts it
5. Please, start quoting all these contradictions you claim to have, I'd need to brush up on my theology. But I believe New overrides Old Testament, rendering most contradictions moot.
6. A little grammar and structure wouldn't kill you would it?
1. Did you not see the words "I'll admit I know little" it only just up there, Are you not Christian enough to enlighten me?, In what it states and rectify what i have heard, right the wrongs? It may or may not state word for word but this is how i hear it, through other Christians / Born again Christians as they interpret it. Do you really expect detailed references from a non Christian?, would'nt god say that it is your job to rectify my thinking not to judge my knowledge and ability :eyebrow:
2. Please tell me how it does? can you ride the popes cart? will you be able to view holy documents and objects under the vatican at anytime because you are equal :rofl: No, why? because you are seen as a peseant below them as all people they look upon and/or are scared the truths will be reveled ;) Did you see the arch bishop give any campers shelter no "get off my lawn" equal lol
3a.errr "thou shall not" Oh come on :eyebrow: sheeesh 3b. Are you sure you read what i wrote Not factual i know, Hence story :bow: :rofl: Is this really a story that should be told, AND IS ALSO preached as TRUTH by some Christians this may or may not be your views.
4. "And was punished" is after the fact :) so a contradiction. but I am understanding the mass control need for enforcement with the scary exile.
5.Please Enlighten me as to where I state I claim I have these contradictions :unsure: "I could have quoted" is not I have contradictions, do you need glasses? I think google may have the contradictions as mentioned link to follow ;) http://www.answering-christianity.com/1 ... ctions.htm
"But I believe New overrides Old Testament, rendering most contradictions moot" maybe some/most people are stuck in transition eh?
6.Can I say the same? Yes maybe I have the same sort of case to argue for Grammar and Proof Reading or is it a Glasses thing.
Or can I argue maybe you should be educated enough to make sense of any text? I know im not but i can;)
I hope this little extra Grammar and Structure is too your needs, Oh yes it nearly killed me :rofl:
by Marxist-Leninist Germany » Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:11 pm
Tears for Fears wrote:Everybody wants to rule the world
by Marxist-Leninist Germany » Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:20 pm
Tears for Fears wrote:Everybody wants to rule the world
by Tarsonis Survivors » Sun Dec 07, 2014 11:01 pm
Vox populi est autem Vox de Humus wrote: -snip-
by Vox populi est autem Vox de Humus » Mon Dec 08, 2014 4:25 am
Tarsonis Survivors wrote:Vox populi est autem Vox de Humus wrote: -snip-
1. Claimant has the onus to provide sources for their claims, no matter how well known they may be. Recipient does not. While you may not be a believer, you are making claims about the belief system that require citation, therefor you must back your claim with evidence. Also : anecdotal evidence is not data or fact. And also, grammar is a legitimate criticism, in order to understand your argument one must be able to comprehend it.
2. (Your anarchist sympathies are showing) No one is stopping you from "asking" to borrow the Popes car. But they don't have to give it to you, and they won't but that is their choice. Has nothing to do with equality. Also Christianity says God judges each equally Romans 3:23, not that each man is equal to all others. And lastly, maybe you missed what I said earlier, but the reason only certified archivists are granted access, is because these objects are thousands of years old and will literally fall apart if you handle them incorrectly. Only certified archivists are trusted with handling such fragile objects.
3.yes some do. However you seem to ascribe a universality of blame to all Christians, when it is only a small minority. Catholicism, the largest sect of Christianity promotes evolution and an allegorical understanding of the creation story. Also it is important to note that your antics in this section, only do yourself a disservice. You make your "opponent" appear much more level headed and respectable than yourself. Do with this what you will.
4.Um... What? That was truly an incomprehensible statement. Please restate properly.
5/6. Do you want us to do the same butchering of interpretation to your words that we do to scripture? No? Then state your points succinctly and clearly. Apparently, this thread is serious enough if you are posting here. The "I'm so above this thread" bullshit is clearly that. You can't use intentionally shitty grammar and then blame us for not understanding you. The onus is not on us to understand but is on you to be understood.
by New DeCapito » Mon Dec 08, 2014 4:29 am
by Vox populi est autem Vox de Humus » Mon Dec 08, 2014 5:00 am
New DeCapito wrote:I'm really sorry, but tl;dr.
If you want to make a point, make it short or nobody will read it.
by Creepoc Infinite » Mon Dec 08, 2014 7:50 am
by Pragia » Mon Dec 08, 2014 8:23 am
by CTALNH » Mon Dec 08, 2014 8:56 am
Bunkeranlage wrote:This argument's been going on for 2,000 years. Neither side has been able to fully convince the other.
by Ripoll » Mon Dec 08, 2014 9:01 am
by Menassa » Mon Dec 08, 2014 9:08 am
Creepoc Infinite wrote:Just bought a new book.
God Is Not Great
by New DeCapito » Mon Dec 08, 2014 9:11 am
Vox populi est autem Vox de Humus wrote:New DeCapito wrote:I'm really sorry, but tl;dr.
If you want to make a point, make it short or nobody will read it.
oh it was very short
Vox populi est autem Vox de Humus wrote:If christianity wasnt full contridictions then they would have an arguement otherwise Atheism wins
by Ripoll » Mon Dec 08, 2014 9:12 am
by New DeCapito » Mon Dec 08, 2014 9:17 am
Ripoll wrote:Radical secularlists and atheistic internet culture as a whole is not helping the goal they wish to attain.
Most modern relgiously influenced schools do not teach religion as a replacement for scientific advancement, rather they suggest the notion that scientific advancement is our duty as human beings. It is our obligation to develop higher living standards, and this religious interpretation does far more good than harm.
It's time to end the athetistic internet culture and start to aid scientific advancement and call for religion to be the why and science to be what and how.
by Tarsonis Survivors » Mon Dec 08, 2014 9:55 am
New DeCapito wrote:Ripoll wrote:Radical secularlists and atheistic internet culture as a whole is not helping the goal they wish to attain.
Most modern relgiously influenced schools do not teach religion as a replacement for scientific advancement, rather they suggest the notion that scientific advancement is our duty as human beings. It is our obligation to develop higher living standards, and this religious interpretation does far more good than harm.
It's time to end the athetistic internet culture and start to aid scientific advancement and call for religion to be the why and science to be what and how.
Why can't science be the why too? E.g, Why does love happen? Because different chemicals are released into your bloodstream.
by Creepoc Infinite » Mon Dec 08, 2014 10:34 am
Tarsonis Survivors wrote:New DeCapito wrote:Why can't science be the why too? E.g, Why does love happen? Because different chemicals are released into your bloodstream.
Yeah that it explains the how of love, but it doesn't explain the why. Why this or that, or why love is even a thing. Love is the most counter intuitive part of the human psyche.
by The Union of Tentacles and Grapes » Mon Dec 08, 2014 10:36 am
Tarsonis Survivors wrote:New DeCapito wrote:Why can't science be the why too? E.g, Why does love happen? Because different chemicals are released into your bloodstream.
Yeah that it explains the how of love, but it doesn't explain the why. Why this or that, or why love is even a thing. Love is the most counter intuitive part of the human psyche.
by Herskerstad » Mon Dec 08, 2014 11:26 am
Creepoc Infinite wrote:Tarsonis Survivors wrote:
Yeah that it explains the how of love, but it doesn't explain the why. Why this or that, or why love is even a thing. Love is the most counter intuitive part of the human psyche.
Love doesn't have any deeper inherent meaning.
Cocaine produces the same high as being in love.
We assign a meaning to love.
Love means what it means because we say it does. Love is not a thing and does not exist outside the human psyche.
And why does there have to be a why?
by Yuketobaniac » Mon Dec 08, 2014 11:29 am
nope T-14 it'll prove to be a piece of junk, stick with the T-90 and T-72 and upgrade those to be better hellfire targets XDXDXD
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