Ban on atheism

[Skinia]

Under an atheistic worldview, there is no objective meaning or purpose in life. Through Jesus Christ, Christianity offers objective meaning and purpose to life.

So why would anyone choose this except for liberal brainwashing?

No proof of objective purpose of life. Rather, this "through Jesus Christ"-bs is just another subjective purpose of life of Christians.

[Hurdegaryp]

Okay, this is flawed. As a theist let me take a second to defend my dreaded enemy the atheist and antitheist.

Variation of opinion is a sign of free will, that thing held sacred to Christians but apparently not the OP's version of religion. In civil terms, freedom of speech, media etcetera applies to everyone, not just the people you want to hear. Should Atheism be illegal? No. If you illegalize Atheism you're not helping solve any problems you're creating new ones, that kind of thing leads to hate, and hate leads to violence and there's enough violence against theists already between ourselves, lets not also include the people who passive-aggressively dislike us as well.

I agree with this chinchilla appreciator, he/she has the right attitude.

[Lordieth]

Who are we to say that there is no God. If there were no God to exist, than Existence(of anything) would never/or cease to Exist.

You're just saying that because you are not aware of advanced physics. The universe functions just fine without needing a god to explain it.

Every day, science is closing more and more gaps in our knowledge about how The Universe works, and in all that knowledge, we haven't found a single thing. Not one, that requires the intervention of a god or deity for it to function.

You'd think if there were a divine being, then eventually we'd come across a natural law that could only be explained by the intervention of one, and yet surprisingly, we haven't. Religion likes to point at the gaps of our knowledge and say "God did it", and then when we can explain these gaps with science, we find they are governed by natural laws, and require no divine intervention.

It really does take faith to ignore probability.

[Celritannia]

Under an atheistic worldview, there is no objective meaning or purpose in life. Through Jesus Christ, Christianity offers objective meaning and purpose to life.

So why would anyone choose this except for liberal brainwashing?

Many Roman and Greek Philosophers seemed to do all right.
Cultures prior to the expansion of European Empires seemed to do all right.

Why do I want to have a prize at the end of this life, when I can use this life to do as I please?

[Khalite]

Okay, this is flawed. As a theist let me take a second to defend my dreaded enemy the atheist and antitheist.

Variation of opinion is a sign of free will, that thing held sacred to Christians but apparently not the OP's version of religion. In civil terms, freedom of speech, media etcetera applies to everyone, not just the people you want to hear. Should Atheism be illegal? No. If you illegalize Atheism you're not helping solve any problems you're creating new ones, that kind of thing leads to hate, and hate leads to violence and there's enough violence against theists already between ourselves, lets not also include the people who passive-aggressively dislike us as well.

Estainia, your views give me hope that not all theists abandon reason. It is the theist zealots that worry me. Do they worry you as well?

[Aelex]

Stalin, Pol Pot and Mao DO kill people in name of Atheism... What do you think communism is? It's just an atheist form of humanism...

No it's not... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_communism

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kB9wELkGn9c

Official hymn of Communism.

I do notice the "Il n'est pas de sauveur suprême" (There are no supreme saviour) who make me think, just a little, that it may be atheist...

[Lancaster of Wessex]

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who ever said Hitler was atheist LOOK AT THIS

If you read his private conversations in the 1940s, Hitler is avowedly anti-Christian. I believe he said such things as in your quote for mere political gain, or at least trying to paint the NSDAP as a stalwart of Christianity.

[Sphermenia]

Under an atheistic worldview, there is no objective meaning or purpose in life. Through Jesus Christ, Christianity offers objective meaning and purpose to life.

So why would anyone choose this except for liberal brainwashing?

A like to believe that people have the right and ability to choose and or make their purpose on their own through the course of their life and not be weighed down by a book.

[Cyrisnia]

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who ever said Hitler was atheist LOOK AT THIS

If you read his private conversations in the 1940s, Hitler is avowedly anti-Christian. I believe he said such things as in your quote for mere political gain, or at least trying to paint the NSDAP as a stalwart of Christianity.

^^This.

[Sociusa]

I'd gladly believe in God if Atheism was suddenly banned.

[Sahrani South]

Not every bad person is an atheist, but every atheist is a bad person.

Surely, if evolution was not guided by a God, then we would not have evolved minds geared toward truth, only survival. In that case, where do you get off making blanket statements about the nature of the universe?

If our IQ is a product of evolution and survival then why are humans the only ones with the higher intellect? And why do people with higher IQs not live any longer than regular people?

How belief in a god without proof is any different than denial of a god without proof. Ergo Absence of Evidence is not the same thing as Evidence of Absence. Also, it's logically impossible to prove a universal negative

[Celritannia]

- All loving God?

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God of war and hosts.

Hmm?

[IisraelL]

Under an atheistic worldview, there is no objective meaning or purpose in life. Through Jesus Christ, Christianity offers objective meaning and purpose to life.

So why would anyone choose this except for liberal brainwashing?

Also:
Liberal brainwashing? REALLY? (Insert extreme face palm here)

[Schneidern empire]

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who ever said Hitler was atheist LOOK AT THIS

As I've repeatedly stated, Hitler needed to appear like a good Christian to win the support of Germany's large Christian population. After ascending to power, he imposed heavy restrictions on the church, as well as flagrantly ignoring it's tenets.

[Free United Provinces of East Torkelburg]

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who ever said Hitler was atheist LOOK AT THIS

If you read his private conversations in the 1940s, Hitler is avowedly anti-Christian. I believe he said such things as in your quote for mere political gain, or at least trying to paint the NSDAP as a stalwart of Christianity.

That reminds me of a quote which goes something like this:
The commoner believes religion is true. The wise man sees that it is false. The ruler sees it as a tool.

[Jormengand]

Not every bad person is an atheist, but every atheist is a bad person.

I call bull.

[Estainia]

Okay, this is flawed. As a theist let me take a second to defend my dreaded enemy the atheist and antitheist.

Variation of opinion is a sign of free will, that thing held sacred to Christians but apparently not the OP's version of religion. In civil terms, freedom of speech, media etcetera applies to everyone, not just the people you want to hear. Should Atheism be illegal? No. If you illegalize Atheism you're not helping solve any problems you're creating new ones, that kind of thing leads to hate, and hate leads to violence and there's enough violence against theists already between ourselves, lets not also include the people who passive-aggressively dislike us as well.

Estainia, your views give me hope that not all theists abandon reason. It is the theist zealots that worry me. Do they worry you as well?

Zealots are the reason my religion is dead, mate. They scare the hell out of me. Logic and Reason can coincide with the ideas of theism whatever you may call your variety (or lack therof) and there is no well founded reason that theists and atheists can't get along as people.

[The Cobalt Sky]

Yeah. An abundance of atheists here, and I haven't seen another Christian yet that will come and debate us. Maybe the title attracts people it affects and people it doesn't affect or people who agree with it kind of shy away for some reason, but I have no idea. I think I'll do a study on it. Maybe they don't want to get into it because they can tell there will be a lot of us?

Actually, you are somewhat correct.

Topics will draw in an abundance of their target audience - however, such as in this case when you have a fundamentalist who goes over the norm - most won't agree with them and hence the lack of a firm argument on the other-side. I'd be willing to call this belief, religious extremism - topics though that do have something more moderate and fruitful to the debate, will draw in an abundance on both crowds, because these topics aren't so insanely radical as this one.

That's my two cents any ways.

Wow. That's quite interesting! Thank you!

[Khalite]

Not every bad person is an atheist, but every atheist is a bad person.

Surely, if evolution was not guided by a God, then we would not have evolved minds geared toward truth, only survival. In that case, where do you get off making blanket statements about the nature of the universe?

If our IQ is a product of evolution and survival then why are humans the only ones with the higher intellect? And why do people with higher IQs not live any longer than regular people?

How belief in a god without proof is any different than denial of a god without proof. Ergo Absence of Evidence is not the same thing as Evidence of Absence. Also, it's logically impossible to prove a universal negative

Every atheist is a bad person? You are truly a close-minded and ignorant person, and you should feel bad about that. Really, you should. You don't have to be religious, or a Christian, to be a good person. Rethink the awful ideas that come out of your head before you share them with your fellow human beings.

[Socialist Tera]

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who ever said Hitler was atheist LOOK AT THIS

*Sigh*
You do understand that Hitler only said this to gain more support, right?
Hitler hated religion in general, and he only used it to gain support for his cause.

He mentioned religion positively a lot in his own autobiography Mein Kamph.

[Estainia]

Not every bad person is an atheist, but every atheist is a bad person.

Surely, if evolution was not guided by a God, then we would not have evolved minds geared toward truth, only survival. In that case, where do you get off making blanket statements about the nature of the universe?

If our IQ is a product of evolution and survival then why are humans the only ones with the higher intellect? And why do people with higher IQs not live any longer than regular people?

How belief in a god without proof is any different than denial of a god without proof. Ergo Absence of Evidence is not the same thing as Evidence of Absence. Also, it's logically impossible to prove a universal negative

We're not the only thing with a high intelligence on the planet. Other hominids, dolphins, etcetera.

[Celritannia]

Not every bad person is an atheist, but every atheist is a bad person.

Surely, if evolution was not guided by a God, then we would not have evolved minds geared toward truth, only survival. In that case, where do you get off making blanket statements about the nature of the universe?

If our IQ is a product of evolution and survival then why are humans the only ones with the higher intellect? And why do people with higher IQs not live any longer than regular people?

How belief in a god without proof is any different than denial of a god without proof. Ergo Absence of Evidence is not the same thing as Evidence of Absence. Also, it's logically impossible to prove a universal negative

Burden of Proof lies with the person trying to prove something, not the person trying to deny it.

Also, there are many animals that are highly intelligent. Take Dolphins, Elephants, Dogs, Cats and various other species for example.

[Sahrani South]

Millions of children die every year because of ATHEIST abortion. There were also Stalin, Mao Zedong, Pol-Pot Robespierre etc.

[Cyrisnia]

Not every bad person is an atheist, but every atheist is a bad person.

Surely, if evolution was not guided by a God, then we would not have evolved minds geared toward truth, only survival. In that case, where do you get off making blanket statements about the nature of the universe?

If our IQ is a product of evolution and survival then why are humans the only ones with the higher intellect? And why do people with higher IQs not live any longer than regular people?

How belief in a god without proof is any different than denial of a god without proof. Ergo Absence of Evidence is not the same thing as Evidence of Absence. Also, it's logically impossible to prove a universal negative

Can you please just shut up for a moment?

You're acting like the reason some people choose to be athiests:
To get away from people constantly screaming and spamming "GOD IS REAL GOD IS REAL GOD IS REAL OH COME ON HOW DON'T YOU BELIEVE IN GOD ITS OBVIOUS AND YOU NEED TO OR ELSE YOU'RE A BAD PERSON AND BLAH BLAH BLAH I REQUIRE ATTENTION"
Seriously, you're not gaining points with God here, you don't do it by doing that, all you're doing is being an asshole.

[Sphermenia]

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who ever said Hitler was atheist LOOK AT THIS

If you read his private conversations in the 1940s, Hitler is avowedly anti-Christian. I believe he said such things as in your quote for mere political gain, or at least trying to paint the NSDAP as a stalwart of Christianity.

But still it means allot of people he fooled were fooled with their religion, which means that Christianity helped the holocaust happen whether on purpose or accident.

also about communism, even though communism is atheist, look at god in the bible, you could argue that go is technically an atheist, but what concerns me is it states that all are equal in gods eyes but then says that god is superior, this means all are equal except god who is ''better'' and worse god expects you to love him more than your own family, which is messed up... so god may be a tad dare I say ''communist''?