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Where should the 2070 Olympics be held?

Padania
1
5%
Rio de la Plata
3
14%
South Africa
1
5%
Iberia
1
5%
Great Britain
5
23%
Columbia
3
14%
Russia
1
5%
Albano-Balkan Federation
1
5%
Islamic Peoples
1
5%
Best Korea
5
23%
 
Total votes : 22

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FryBurger Island
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Postby FryBurger Island » Sun Nov 30, 2014 1:22 pm

FryBurger Island wrote:Nation name: The Germanic Dominion
Flag: http://u.jimdo.com/www21/o/sf8baaaab279 ... /image.png
Coat of arms: http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2010 ... Empire.png
Anthem: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UDXvCJqvA4

Detailed government structure: The Germanic government is a constitutional monarchy run by the King. The King rules for his life, until death. His son then takes the throne. If the King has no next of kin, another family member takes charge by his appointment before death
Government type: constitutional monarchy
Ideologies: Colonialism, imperialism, Capitalism
Leader(s): King Adilina Ferdinanda
Capital: Berlin
5 other major cities: Warsaw, Prague, Amsterdam, Rotterdam, Vienna
Claim: Germany, Poland, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Austria, Hungary, Netherlands, Belgium, Luxembourg, Switzerland, Liechtenstein, Denmark, Lithuania

Population: 179,110,000
Colonial population: N/A
Accepted ethnic groups: European, North and South American
Primary ethnic groups: European
Minority ethnic groups: Asian, African, American
Official language(s): German, English
Unofficial languages: Russian, French. Italian, Spanish
Major religions: catholic, Protestant
Official religion: NONE
Accepted religions: All that aren't extremist
Minority/unrecognized religions:

Foreign relations: The Germanic Dominion maintains an environment of strict neutrality when it comes to foreign affairs and wars. However, it is heavily active in the affairs across Europe. It regularly trades with any and all allies, but loosens or even drops ties to any nations deemed "unfit."
Domestic relations: The Germanic Dominion is a nation of nations, much like the irl UK. It is made up of several republics and states in Central Europe.

Nukes: 18
Military info: Though the Germanic military is smaller than its potential size, it is up to date being equipped with the newest technology and weapons. A large sector is peace corps used for peacekeeping missions when needed, but can be used in combat if ever necessary.
Army name: The Germanic Army
Active army personnel: 112,000
Reserve army personnel: 238,000
Total army size: 350,000
Navy name: The Germanic Navy
Active navy personnel: 87,000
Reserve navy personnel: 93,000
Total navy size: 180,000
Air Force name: The Germanic Air Force
Active Air Force personnel: 96,000
Reserve Air Force personnel: 164,000
Total Air Force size: 260,000
Military name: The Germanic Military
Total military active: 285,000
Total military reserve: 499,000
Total military size: 784,000

Descriptive Economic policy: The economy of the Germanic Dominion is a capitalist based, free market economy with only a very small part being private.
Descriptive Economic situation: The Germanic economy is going strong right now and is ever expanding, but slowly.
3 main exports: cars, planes, refined petrol
3 main imports: vehicle parts, computers, packaged mendicants
Currency: The Germanic Dollar
GDP: 7.24 trillion
GDP per capita: $40,422

History: The founding of the first German nation was in 1871 when Adolf Dum Vamkampf declared the Germanic Kingdom. The nation controlled all o Prussia, and a small part of Austria, Netherlands, and Denmark. The nation was quick to expand in the growing world, first into Poland and the Central European nations. Austro Hungarian empire was its all time enemy and in 1902 it began massive war against Austrian empire. It won in 1908.
From 1909 to 1927 the nations prospered under the umbrella of peace until the Dutch empire demanded that northwest Germany be handed over. The Germanic government denied them their demands and invaded them for such. The Dutch empire crumbled before they knew what hit them. The Belgian empire had a crashing economy and tried fixing it by expanding into Luxembourg, but that caused it to crash. In 1932 Belgium and Luxembourg joined the kingdom.
In 1953 it was renamed to the Germanic Dominion. From 1954 to 2039 it expanded into what it is now. In 2053 the nation began building new sources of renewable energy to survive.
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Postby Soviet Chernarus » Sun Nov 30, 2014 1:29 pm

Who owns the Falkland islands?

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Cymrea
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Postby Cymrea » Sun Nov 30, 2014 1:37 pm

Balls. I totally neglected to claim them. I may have to reassert a claim over them.

Like right now. Claiming Falklands, Gyr. Yea/ney? :blush:

Edit: Might as well toss in the other nominal dependency claims: Isle of Man, Jersey, Guernsey, Ascension, Falklands, Gibraltar, Svalbard (Norway).

No claims to any other British dependencies or territories, Jan Meyer, Reunion, or Corsica. And no claim (as yet) to any bit of the Republic of Ireland (yet!).
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Postby Soviet Chernarus » Sun Nov 30, 2014 1:41 pm

Cymrea wrote:Balls. I totally neglected to claim them. I may have to reassert a claim over them.

Like right now. Claiming Flaklands, Gyr. Yea/ney? :blush:

Damn you! >:(

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Postby Cymrea » Sun Nov 30, 2014 1:46 pm

Soviet Chernarus wrote:
Cymrea wrote:Balls. I totally neglected to claim them. I may have to reassert a claim over them.

Like right now. Claiming Flaklands, Gyr. Yea/ney? :blush:

Damn you! >:(

Given that you're claiming Argentina, we can make Falklands a thing to either negotiate or bicker over. :)
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Postby Soviet Chernarus » Sun Nov 30, 2014 1:54 pm

Cymrea wrote:
Soviet Chernarus wrote:Damn you! >:(

Given that you're claiming Argentina, we can make Falklands a thing to either negotiate or bicker over. :)

Fight over, probably. Falklands are the rightful islands of the Empire!

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Postby Cymrea » Sun Nov 30, 2014 1:56 pm

Soviet Chernarus wrote:
Cymrea wrote:Given that you're claiming Argentina, we can make Falklands a thing to either negotiate or bicker over. :)

Fight over, probably. Falklands are the rightful islands of the Empire!

I can buy that in IC. Definitely not IRL, though. lol
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Postby New Granadeseret » Sun Nov 30, 2014 1:57 pm

Quick question: Being the Middle East, the current global status concerning oil is going to greatly affect population movements and the economic strength of my eastern territories. I'm curious as to the state of he world's energy climate
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Postby Cymrea » Sun Nov 30, 2014 1:59 pm

New Granadeseret wrote:Quick question: Being the Middle East, the current global status concerning oil is going to greatly affect population movements and the economic strength of my eastern territories. I'm curious as to the state of he world's energy climate

Agreed. Dwindling oil supply (and thus more valuable, maybe?) versus alternative energy source development.
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Postby Gyrenaica » Sun Nov 30, 2014 2:14 pm

Cymrea wrote:Balls. I totally neglected to claim them. I may have to reassert a claim over them.

Like right now. Claiming Falklands, Gyr. Yea/ney? :blush:

Edit: Might as well toss in the other nominal dependency claims: Isle of Man, Jersey, Guernsey, Ascension, Falklands, Gibraltar, Svalbard (Norway).

No claims to any other British dependencies or territories, Jan Meyer, Reunion, or Corsica. And no claim (as yet) to any bit of the Republic of Ireland (yet!).

Yea

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Postby Cymrea » Sun Nov 30, 2014 2:16 pm

Gyrenaica wrote:
Cymrea wrote:Balls. I totally neglected to claim them. I may have to reassert a claim over them.

Like right now. Claiming Falklands, Gyr. Yea/ney? :blush:

Edit: Might as well toss in the other nominal dependency claims: Isle of Man, Jersey, Guernsey, Ascension, Falklands, Gibraltar, Svalbard (Norway).

No claims to any other British dependencies or territories, Jan Meyer, Reunion, or Corsica. And no claim (as yet) to any bit of the Republic of Ireland (yet!).

Yea

Sweet. I'll edit that into my latest app. Sov, you and I can squabble over Falklands. It'll add some spice. :)
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Postby Baelya » Sun Nov 30, 2014 2:38 pm

Baelya wrote:Nation name: The Federation of Oceania
Flag: (Image)
Coat of arms: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... ea.svg.png
Anthem: Advance Australia Fair

Detailed government structure: The Federation is made up of 7 different states (Australia, N. Zealand, Indonesia, Borneo, Philippines, Papua, Polynesia) which each elect a leader to represent them at the council. The council will vote for a president and the state that the president comes form will be the ruling state. if the people are not happy are no happy with the councils decision on a matter they can call for a re-vote, the president also has this power.
Government type: Federation
Ideologies: As close to true democracy as possible but also very capitalist in certain areas
Leader(s): President Agus "the great" Sanamya
Capital: Jakarta
5 other major cities: Sydney, Auckland, Manila, Port Moresby, Bandar Seri Begawan
Claim:

Population: 1 billion (this is the future...)
Colonial population: N/A
Accepted ethnic groups: Oceanic, East Asian, South East Asian, Indian, Western, African, Middle Eastern
Primary ethnic groups: Oceanic, South East Asian, East Asian
Minority ethnic groups: African, Middle Eastern
Official language(s): English, Indonesian, Filipino, Thai
Unofficial languages: Chinese, Indian
Major religions: Islam, Buddhist, Christian (In Australia and N. Zealand)
Official religion:
Accepted religions: All Religions are accepted
Minority/unrecognized religions: Sikhism, Judaism

Foreign relations: Friendly towards the west and Japan.
Domestic relations: What does this mean?

Nukes: 150 silos, 300 subs
Military info: Large but not very well equipped
Army name: National Oceanic Army (NOA)
Active army personnel: 10 million
Reserve army personnel: 50 million
Total army size: 60 million
Navy name: Federal Oceanic Navy (FON)
Active navy personnel: 5 million
Reserve navy personnel: 30 million
Total navy size: 35 million
Air Force name: Oceanic Air Force (OAF)
Active Air Force personnel: 2 million
Reserve Air Force personnel: 13 million
Total Air Force size: 15 million
Military name: Oceanic Federal Military (OFM)
Total military active: 17 million
Total military reserve: 103 million
Total military size: 120 million

Descriptive Economic policy: Very capitalist
Descriptive Economic situation: Growing
3 main exports: Coffee, Oil, Cotton
3 main imports: Automobiles, Forestry Equipment, Computer Technology
Currency: Oceanic Peso
GDP: 15,000 billion USD
GDP per capita: 4285.71 USD

History: As Indonesia was falling into an economic crisis a dangerous political group rose to power and started mass genocides of minority groups. The UN condemned their action and called for the international community to stop these actions. Australia and New Zealand answered and invaded Indonesia within a matter of weeks Indonesia had fallen. 30 years later Phillippime joined the union and Polynesia and Papua New Guinea followed suit. 10 years after that a long and bloody war was fought with Malaysia over The Island of Borneo, this war only ended 2 years ago with The Federation winning. Polynesia was only recognized as an official state 3 months ago after a rebellion was successfully crushed in Micronesia, The Federation's activity in Antacrtica have been kept top secret although there are several theories about it, the most famous one being that they are testing powerful nuclear weapons there. A group of activists have been given permission to hold a referendum in Borneo it is to go ahead in 6 months time.
Miscellaneous: Sorry if my history conflicts with anyone else's...
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I altered it!

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Postby Cymrea » Sun Nov 30, 2014 2:58 pm

Baelya wrote:
Baelya wrote:Nation name: The Federation of Oceania
Flag: (Image)
Coat of arms: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... ea.svg.png
Anthem: Advance Australia Fair

Detailed government structure: The Federation is made up of 7 different states (Australia, N. Zealand, Indonesia, Borneo, Philippines, Papua, Polynesia) which each elect a leader to represent them at the council. The council will vote for a president and the state that the president comes form will be the ruling state. if the people are not happy are no happy with the councils decision on a matter they can call for a re-vote, the president also has this power.
Government type: Federation
Ideologies: As close to true democracy as possible but also very capitalist in certain areas
Leader(s): President Agus "the great" Sanamya
Capital: Jakarta
5 other major cities: Sydney, Auckland, Manila, Port Moresby, Bandar Seri Begawan
Claim:

Population: 1 billion (this is the future...)
Colonial population: N/A
Accepted ethnic groups: Oceanic, East Asian, South East Asian, Indian, Western, African, Middle Eastern
Primary ethnic groups: Oceanic, South East Asian, East Asian
Minority ethnic groups: African, Middle Eastern
Official language(s): English, Indonesian, Filipino, Thai
Unofficial languages: Chinese, Indian
Major religions: Islam, Buddhist, Christian (In Australia and N. Zealand)
Official religion:
Accepted religions: All Religions are accepted
Minority/unrecognized religions: Sikhism, Judaism

Foreign relations: Friendly towards the west and Japan.
Domestic relations: What does this mean?

Nukes: 150 silos, 300 subs
Military info: Large but not very well equipped
Army name: National Oceanic Army (NOA)
Active army personnel: 10 million
Reserve army personnel: 50 million
Total army size: 60 million
Navy name: Federal Oceanic Navy (FON)
Active navy personnel: 5 million
Reserve navy personnel: 30 million
Total navy size: 35 million
Air Force name: Oceanic Air Force (OAF)
Active Air Force personnel: 2 million
Reserve Air Force personnel: 13 million
Total Air Force size: 15 million
Military name: Oceanic Federal Military (OFM)
Total military active: 17 million
Total military reserve: 103 million
Total military size: 120 million

Descriptive Economic policy: Very capitalist
Descriptive Economic situation: Growing
3 main exports: Coffee, Oil, Cotton
3 main imports: Automobiles, Forestry Equipment, Computer Technology
Currency: Oceanic Peso
GDP: 15,000 billion USD
GDP per capita: 4285.71 USD

History: As Indonesia was falling into an economic crisis a dangerous political group rose to power and started mass genocides of minority groups. The UN condemned their action and called for the international community to stop these actions. Australia and New Zealand answered and invaded Indonesia within a matter of weeks Indonesia had fallen. 30 years later Phillippime joined the union and Polynesia and Papua New Guinea followed suit. 10 years after that a long and bloody war was fought with Malaysia over The Island of Borneo, this war only ended 2 years ago with The Federation winning. Polynesia was only recognized as an official state 3 months ago after a rebellion was successfully crushed in Micronesia, The Federation's activity in Antacrtica have been kept top secret although there are several theories about it, the most famous one being that they are testing powerful nuclear weapons there. A group of activists have been given permission to hold a referendum in Borneo it is to go ahead in 6 months time.
Miscellaneous: Sorry if my history conflicts with anyone else's...
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I altered it!

1) A population of 1 billion is still too many, by half. Plus, that many people would crush your economy with food needs alone.

2) Need a number in warheads; I recommend about a dozen, maybe twenty. Fissionable material isn't hard to acquire, but weaponising it is a huge process. 150 silos is doable. 300 submarines is crazypants, though. I'd say 40 or 50 maybe - even the US Navy has only 73 and that's a tremendous cost.

3) Military numbers, including reserves needs to come down to at least 2% of total population with imminent threat, though 1% peacetime is more reasonable.

4) Start with GDP per capita and figure out a good average yearly income for your people. Something similar to Australia current numbers. Then multiply by your population - that equals your GDP. Another good reason why your population should be lower. Too high means crushing poverty and an abysmal Per Capita.

More altering, sir! :)
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Postby Gyrenaica » Sun Nov 30, 2014 2:59 pm

Baelya wrote:
Baelya wrote:Nation name: The Federation of Oceania
Flag: (Image)
Coat of arms: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... ea.svg.png
Anthem: Advance Australia Fair

Detailed government structure: The Federation is made up of 7 different states (Australia, N. Zealand, Indonesia, Borneo, Philippines, Papua, Polynesia) which each elect a leader to represent them at the council. The council will vote for a president and the state that the president comes form will be the ruling state. if the people are not happy are no happy with the councils decision on a matter they can call for a re-vote, the president also has this power.
Government type: Federation
Ideologies: As close to true democracy as possible but also very capitalist in certain areas
Leader(s): President Agus "the great" Sanamya
Capital: Jakarta
5 other major cities: Sydney, Auckland, Manila, Port Moresby, Bandar Seri Begawan
Claim:

Population: 1 billion (this is the future...)
Colonial population: N/A
Accepted ethnic groups: Oceanic, East Asian, South East Asian, Indian, Western, African, Middle Eastern
Primary ethnic groups: Oceanic, South East Asian, East Asian
Minority ethnic groups: African, Middle Eastern
Official language(s): English, Indonesian, Filipino, Thai
Unofficial languages: Chinese, Indian
Major religions: Islam, Buddhist, Christian (In Australia and N. Zealand)
Official religion:
Accepted religions: All Religions are accepted
Minority/unrecognized religions: Sikhism, Judaism

Foreign relations: Friendly towards the west and Japan.
Domestic relations: What does this mean?

Nukes: 150 silos, 300 subs
Military info: Large but not very well equipped
Army name: National Oceanic Army (NOA)
Active army personnel: 10 million
Reserve army personnel: 50 million
Total army size: 60 million
Navy name: Federal Oceanic Navy (FON)
Active navy personnel: 5 million
Reserve navy personnel: 30 million
Total navy size: 35 million
Air Force name: Oceanic Air Force (OAF)
Active Air Force personnel: 2 million
Reserve Air Force personnel: 13 million
Total Air Force size: 15 million
Military name: Oceanic Federal Military (OFM)
Total military active: 17 million
Total military reserve: 103 million
Total military size: 120 million

Descriptive Economic policy: Very capitalist
Descriptive Economic situation: Growing
3 main exports: Coffee, Oil, Cotton
3 main imports: Automobiles, Forestry Equipment, Computer Technology
Currency: Oceanic Peso
GDP: 15,000 billion USD
GDP per capita: 4285.71 USD

History: As Indonesia was falling into an economic crisis a dangerous political group rose to power and started mass genocides of minority groups. The UN condemned their action and called for the international community to stop these actions. Australia and New Zealand answered and invaded Indonesia within a matter of weeks Indonesia had fallen. 30 years later Phillippime joined the union and Polynesia and Papua New Guinea followed suit. 10 years after that a long and bloody war was fought with Malaysia over The Island of Borneo, this war only ended 2 years ago with The Federation winning. Polynesia was only recognized as an official state 3 months ago after a rebellion was successfully crushed in Micronesia, The Federation's activity in Antacrtica have been kept top secret although there are several theories about it, the most famous one being that they are testing powerful nuclear weapons there. A group of activists have been given permission to hold a referendum in Borneo it is to go ahead in 6 months time.
Miscellaneous: Sorry if my history conflicts with anyone else's...
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I altered it!

Population: still way too high. Added all you claim together. Even when multiplying it by 1.5 it is only 900 million.

Army: nobody can sustain a military 10 million or more. NOBODY

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Postby New Granadeseret » Sun Nov 30, 2014 3:01 pm

WIP: Up for first-draft review and early-error spotting.

Nation name: The League of Islamic States

Flag: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... League.svg

Coat of arms: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... League.svg

Anthem: (Need to find something that won't put me on a terrorist watch list)

Detailed government structure: The Caliph-Elect serves as the head of both State and Government, elected for life from the registered Muslim population of the League. He is granted the power to call to order and dismiss the Islamic Parliament (Though dismissal may only be for a maximum of 2 months with a 2 month minimal season), to appoint the leadership of the League's departments and of its armed forced (though the later must have at least 10 years in service and a minimum rank depending on the branch in question), can dismiss any resolution passed by the Parliament if it has less than a 55% majority, place a hold on a passed laws implementation until it is reviewed by a council of Quranic scholars to insure it is not in gross violation of Sacred Law, and can form agreements with other nations on matters of foreign policy, though these can be struck down the Parliament every 5 years during review.

The "Territories" of Turkey, Mesopotamia, Syria, Transjordan, Lebanon, and Civilian Palestine are all constitutionally required to function as parliamentary republics, with Kuwait being granted a special privilege allowing the Al Sabah family to inherit the position of Governor-Secretary and those regions of Formerly Occupied Palestine not turned over to the Palestinian government under 'indefinite martial law, with particular areas to be transferred to control of the Al-Qud (Jerusalem) government by act of the Islamic Parliament once order has been restored.'

Government type: Federal Elected Non-Hereditary Constitutional Monarchy

Ideologies: Political Islam, The Dirigiste State, Paternalism

Leader(s): Caliph-Elect Sokoul Qut

Capital: Mosul
5 other major cities: Istanbul, Baghdad, Ankara, Kuwait City, Damascus.

Claim: Turkey, T.R.N.C, Iraq, Kuwait, Syria, Lebanon, Palestine (Current political name Palestine Civilian Administration, Israel (Areas not 'redeemed' are referred to as "Formerly Occupied Territories of Palestine Under League Reconstruction", or The P.M.A (Palestine Military Administration) for short.)

Population: 276,000,000

Colonial population: N/A

Accepted ethnic groups: Arabs, Turks, Kurds

Primary ethnic groups: Arabs

Minority ethnic groups: Hebrews, Greeks

Official language(s): Arabic, Turkish

Unofficial languages: Hebrew (In Occupied Palestine)

Major religions: Sunni and Shia Islam, Judaism (In Occupied Palestine)

Official religion: Sunni Islam

Accepted religions: All are tolerated and have a recognized legal right to exist, be practiced, and organize in groups

Minority/unrecognized religions: Jews face heavy de-facto discrimination, as they are the most heavy supporters of the Zion Independence Front (Z.I.F). Synagogues are usually heavily surveyed, movement is restricted in Palestine, and positions in government are rarely open to them

Foreign relations: The League has adopted a highly inward-looking set of policies, and so generally adopts an anti-internationalist policy in her diplomacy. The situation in Palestine remains a huge sticking point, greatly worsening relations with North America and receiving mixed reactions in Europe as well. Not expansionist, but wary of economic imperialism and sees itself as the protector of the interests of Muslim nations and peoples abroad. The situation with Iran is tense, with elements of the local Iraqi government making trouble with Iranian Arabs and Iran's Shia terrorist organizations causing some problems,

Nukes: 8

Military info:
Army name: 'The Brave and Glorious Defenders of the Faithful'
Active army personnel: 900,000
Reserve army personnel: 2,900,000
Total army size: 3,800,000
Navy name: 'The Islamic Marine'
Active navy personnel: 90,000
Reserve navy personnel: 150,000
Total navy size: 240,000
Air Force name: 'Guardians of the Heavens'
Active Air Force personnel: 270,000
Reserve Air Force personnel: 810,00
Total Air Force size: 1,080,000
Military name: 'The United Warriors of the Caliph'
Total military active: 1,260,000
Total military reserve: 3,860,000
Total military size: 4,120,000

Descriptive Economic policy: Dirigiste. The running economic theory in the League is that it is the government's responsibility to maximize the interests of the nation. This isn't exactly the same as the interests of all the citizens, focused instead on national power and economic and political independence (Which includes objectives such as domestic industry, military might, international prestige, the retaining of local economic control, greater internal stability and government solvency). This translates to moderate levels of taxation (to fund infrastructure and provide loans and subsidies for industries the government wants in the country), State direction of the 'commanding heights' of the economy (Particularly in primary industry and resource extraction), and lighter regulations on domestically-run businesses to encourage the internal strengthening of the state

Descriptive Economic situation: Still 'developing' in the classical sense. The economy is growing faster than it's 'mature' neighbors in Europe, North, America, and East Asia.

3 main exports: Petrol/Natural Gas Products, Textiles, Fruit (Mainly Citrus)
3 main imports: Grain, Industrial Machinery, Coffee

Currency: The Islamic Dinar (ISD)
GDP: (Depends on Oil situation)
GDP per capita: (Depends on Oil Situation)

History: WIP; requires some more detailed political background research
Miscellaneous: Low-level terrorist activity continuing by the Zion Independence Front; a group of radical former Isralis dedicated to driving the Arabs out of Palestine and reconstituting their nation. Mostly a threat in north-Western Palestine, particularly around Tel Aviv. Hebrew population in the rest of Palestine is slowly being broken up by Arab settlements, and kept down by the presence of Islamic League military forces. General justification to the international community is "punishment to the fit the crime".

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New Granadeseret wrote:WIP: Up for first-draft review and early-error spotting.

Nation name: The League of Islamic States

Flag: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... League.svg

Coat of arms: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... League.svg

Anthem: (Need to find something that won't put me on a terrorist watch list)

Detailed government structure: The Caliph-Elect serves as the head of both State and Government, elected for life from the registered Muslim population of the League. He is granted the power to call to order and dismiss the Islamic Parliament (Though dismissal may only be for a maximum of 2 months with a 2 month minimal season), to appoint the leadership of the League's departments and of its armed forced (though the later must have at least 10 years in service and a minimum rank depending on the branch in question), can dismiss any resolution passed by the Parliament if it has less than a 55% majority, place a hold on a passed laws implementation until it is reviewed by a council of Quranic scholars to insure it is not in gross violation of Sacred Law, and can form agreements with other nations on matters of foreign policy, though these can be struck down the Parliament every 5 years during review.

The "Territories" of Turkey, Mesopotamia, Syria, Transjordan, Lebanon, and Civilian Palestine are all constitutionally required to function as parliamentary republics, with Kuwait being granted a special privilege allowing the Al Sabah family to inherit the position of Governor-Secretary and those regions of Formerly Occupied Palestine not turned over to the Palestinian government under 'indefinite martial law, with particular areas to be transferred to control of the Al-Qud (Jerusalem) government by act of the Islamic Parliament once order has been restored.'

Government type: Federal Elected Non-Hereditary Constitutional Monarchy

Ideologies: Political Islam, The Dirigiste State, Paternalism

Leader(s): Caliph-Elect Sokoul Qut

Capital: Mosul
5 other major cities: Istanbul, Baghdad, Ankara, Kuwait City, Damascus.

Claim: Turkey, T.R.N.C, Iraq, Kuwait, Syria, Lebanon, Palestine (Current political name Palestine Civilian Administration, Israel (Areas not 'redeemed' are referred to as "Formerly Occupied Territories of Palestine Under League Reconstruction", or The P.M.A (Palestine Military Administration) for short.)

Population: 276,000,000

Colonial population: N/A

Accepted ethnic groups: Arabs, Turks, Kurds

Primary ethnic groups: Arabs

Minority ethnic groups: Hebrews, Greeks

Official language(s): Arabic, Turkish

Unofficial languages: Hebrew (In Occupied Palestine)

Major religions: Sunni and Shia Islam, Judaism (In Occupied Palestine)

Official religion: Sunni Islam

Accepted religions: All are tolerated and have a recognized legal right to exist, be practiced, and organize in groups

Minority/unrecognized religions: Jews face heavy de-facto discrimination, as they are the most heavy supporters of the Zion Independence Front (Z.I.F). Synagogues are usually heavily surveyed, movement is restricted in Palestine, and positions in government are rarely open to them

Foreign relations: The League has adopted a highly inward-looking set of policies, and so generally adopts an anti-internationalist policy in her diplomacy. The situation in Palestine remains a huge sticking point, greatly worsening relations with North America and receiving mixed reactions in Europe as well. Not expansionist, but wary of economic imperialism and sees itself as the protector of the interests of Muslim nations and peoples abroad. The situation with Iran is tense, with elements of the local Iraqi government making trouble with Iranian Arabs and Iran's Shia terrorist organizations causing some problems,

Nukes: 8

Military info:
Army name: 'The Brave and Glorious Defenders of the Faithful'
Active army personnel: 900,000
Reserve army personnel: 2,900,000
Total army size: 3,800,000
Navy name: 'The Islamic Marine'
Active navy personnel: 90,000
Reserve navy personnel: 150,000
Total navy size: 240,000
Air Force name: 'Guardians of the Heavens'
Active Air Force personnel: 270,000
Reserve Air Force personnel: 810,00
Total Air Force size: 1,080,000
Military name: 'The United Warriors of the Caliph'
Total military active: 1,260,000
Total military reserve: 3,860,000
Total military size: 4,120,000

Descriptive Economic policy: Dirigiste. The running economic theory in the League is that it is the government's responsibility to maximize the interests of the nation. This isn't exactly the same as the interests of all the citizens, focused instead on national power and economic and political independence (Which includes objectives such as domestic industry, military might, international prestige, the retaining of local economic control, greater internal stability and government solvency). This translates to moderate levels of taxation (to fund infrastructure and provide loans and subsidies for industries the government wants in the country), State direction of the 'commanding heights' of the economy (Particularly in primary industry and resource extraction), and lighter regulations on domestically-run businesses to encourage the internal strengthening of the state

Descriptive Economic situation: Still 'developing' in the classical sense. The economy is growing faster than it's 'mature' neighbors in Europe, North, America, and East Asia.

3 main exports: Petrol/Natural Gas Products, Textiles, Fruit (Mainly Citrus)
3 main imports: Grain, Industrial Machinery, Coffee

Currency: The Islamic Dinar (ISD)
GDP: (Depends on Oil situation)
GDP per capita: (Depends on Oil Situation)

History: WIP; requires some more detailed political background research
Miscellaneous: Low-level terrorist activity continuing by the Zion Independence Front; a group of radical former Isralis dedicated to driving the Arabs out of Palestine and reconstituting their nation. Mostly a threat in north-Western Palestine, particularly around Tel Aviv. Hebrew population in the rest of Palestine is slowly being broken up by Arab settlements, and kept down by the presence of Islamic League military forces. General justification to the international community is "punishment to the fit the crime".

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European Turkish side is in my territory.

Edit: Since your economy is struggling I don't think you can pay to keep that kind of army, just saying.
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Postby New Granadeseret » Sun Nov 30, 2014 3:13 pm

A) I don't see your reservation
B) Why exactly is Turkey being split? It could easily trounce your over-extended Albanians already dealing with the invariably massive opposition from the ethnic and religious hatepit that is the Balkans.
C) My economy isn't struggling; it's just developing rather then developed . Also, the Middle East is well known for investing more money into it's military proportionally than the rest of the world
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Postby Kalifati Arab shqiptar » Sun Nov 30, 2014 3:18 pm

New Granadeseret wrote:A) I don't see your reservation
B) Why exactly is Turkey being split? It could easily trounce your over-extended Albanians already dealing with the invariably massive opposition from the ethnic and religious hatepit that is the Balkans.
C) My economy isn't struggling; it's just developing rather then developed . Also, the Middle East is well known for investing more money into it's military proportionally than the rest of the world

A)I was accepted before you
B) Well nor does your Country
C) No, that is incorrect.

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Postby Cymrea » Sun Nov 30, 2014 3:23 pm

Gyrenaica wrote:
Kalifati Arab shqiptar wrote:Nation name: The Albano-Balkan Federation
Flag: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... 29.svg.png
Coat of arms: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... ia.svg.png
Anthem: Elita 5: Cka me ka syri qe me loton

Detailed government structure: Provinical states and their govs and the Federational Council. Big decisions are for The Fed Council
Government type: Federation
Ideologies: Center Left
Leader(s): Jon Çobani
Capital: Tirana
5 other major cities: Belgrade, Zagreb, Athens, Prague, Bucarest.
Claim: Albania, Kosovo, Greece, Serbia, Montenegro, Romania, Bulgaria,Bosnia, Croatia, FYROM, Slovenia and Turkey's European side.

Population: 240 million
Colonial population: (only if you have colonies)
Accepted ethnic groups: Every ethnicity in the federation.
Primary ethnic groups: Albanian, Croats, Serbian, Hungarian, Greeks.
Minority ethnic groups: Czech, Bulgarian
Official language(s): Albanian
Unofficial languages: Every language that is in our territory.
Major religions: Christianity and Islam.
Official religion: (if any)
Accepted religions: Religious freedoms are fine.
Minority/unrecognized religions:

Foreign relations: Friends with Western Countries, hates Eastern Ones
Domestic relations: Every Ethnicity works and lives together and united.

Nukes: 15
Military info: Very well trained and eqquiped
Army name: The Federational Ground Force
Active army personnel: 1'240'000
Reserve army personnel: 400'000
Total army size: 1'640'000
Navy name: The Federational Navy
Active navy personnel: 10'000
Reserve navy personnel: 20'000
Total navy size: 30'000
Air Force name: Federational Air Force
Active Air Force personnel: 9'000
Reserve Air Force personnel: 30'000
Total Air Force size: 39'000
Military name: National Defence Force
Total military active: 1'259'000
Total military reserve: 450'000
Total military size: 1'709'000

Descriptive Economic policy:
Descriptive Economic situation: (good, bad, growing, in recession) Good but soon may go through recession if thr country runs out of oil,
3 main exports: Automobiles, Weapons and Dairy
3 main imports: Uranium, Oil and Natural Gas
Currency: Lek
GDP: 2.5 trillion(US Dollars)
GDP per capita: 8.4K$

History: Once Albania was funded and were given weapons by the Western Nations, the army began to grow and in 2025, Kosovo joined Albania. Greece, Serbia and Montenegro declared war to Albania, which meant declared war to Western Nations too. After 3 years of war Serbia, Montenegro and Greece surrendered. The Southern Eastern Europe Summit voted unanimously (being pressured by Albania) for the creation of the Federation in 2034.
Miscellaneous: None
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Postby New Granadeseret » Sun Nov 30, 2014 3:25 pm

Kalifati Arab shqiptar wrote:
New Granadeseret wrote:A) I don't see your reservation
B) Why exactly is Turkey being split? It could easily trounce your over-extended Albanians already dealing with the invariably massive opposition from the ethnic and religious hatepit that is the Balkans.
C) My economy isn't struggling; it's just developing rather then developed . Also, the Middle East is well known for investing more money into it's military proportionally than the rest of the world

A)I was accepted before you
B) Well nor does your Country
C) No, that is incorrect.


I denounce the splitting of a sovereign state as powerful and stable as Turkey to this hodge-podge confederation of ethnic hate. Your very statement of domestic relations 'Every Ethnicity works and lives together and united.', is baffling and flies directly in the face of realism and thousands of years of ethnic relations. You make no historical explanation for why you have European Turkey (Turkey would never join in support of its traditional claims-rivals against one of it's best friends in the Balkans and it's western allies). I call on the OP to explain exactly how this is feasible, particularly in such a way the Federation manages to survive when the American-European soldiers leave.
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Postby Cymrea » Sun Nov 30, 2014 3:30 pm

New Granadeseret wrote:I denounce the splitting of a sovereign state as powerful and stable as Turkey to this hodge-podge confederation of ethnic hate. Your very statement of domestic relations 'Every Ethnicity works and lives together and united.', is baffling and flies directly in the face of realism and thousands of years of ethnic relations. You make no historical explanation for why you have European Turkey (Turkey would never join in support of its traditional claims-rivals against one of it's best friends in the Balkans and it's western allies). I call on the OP to explain exactly how this is feasible, particularly in such a way the Federation manages to survive when the American-European soldiers leave.

Not an unreasonable request. However, given that the OP owns the thread and can adjudicate the apps as he sees fit, it might not be an answer you like, if you get one at all. Gyr's a good guy, though, so we'll see. ;)
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Postby Kalifati Arab shqiptar » Sun Nov 30, 2014 3:30 pm

New Granadeseret wrote:
Kalifati Arab shqiptar wrote:A)I was accepted before you
B) Well nor does your Country
C) No, that is incorrect.


I denounce the splitting of a sovereign state as powerful and stable as Turkey to this hodge-podge confederation of ethnic hate. Your very statement of domestic relations 'Every Ethnicity works and lives together and united.', is baffling and flies directly in the face of realism and thousands of years of ethnic relations. You make no historical explanation for why you have European Turkey (Turkey would never join in support of its traditional claims-rivals against one of it's best friends in the Balkans and it's western allies). I call on the OP to explain exactly how this is feasible, particularly in such a way the Federation manages to survive when the American-European soldiers leave.

So tell me, since when do the Syrians work with the Turks and Iraqis. Your Federation is based on basic knowledge of the Middle East. So before accusing other people take a look at your "country" first. Balkan wars are "new" and they haven't been going on since the begining of times.

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Postby New Granadeseret » Sun Nov 30, 2014 3:38 pm

Cymrea wrote:
New Granadeseret wrote:I denounce the splitting of a sovereign state as powerful and stable as Turkey to this hodge-podge confederation of ethnic hate. Your very statement of domestic relations 'Every Ethnicity works and lives together and united.', is baffling and flies directly in the face of realism and thousands of years of ethnic relations. You make no historical explanation for why you have European Turkey (Turkey would never join in support of its traditional claims-rivals against one of it's best friends in the Balkans and it's western allies). I call on the OP to explain exactly how this is feasible, particularly in such a way the Federation manages to survive when the American-European soldiers leave.

Not an unreasonable request. However, given that the OP owns the thread and can adjudicate the apps as he sees fit, it might not be an answer you like, if you get one at all. Gyr's a good guy, though, so we'll see. ;)


I understand that. I don't demand the verdict go in my favor; just that this issue receive a fair trial.

The Turks have been an observer member of The Arab League for years now, Syrian Republicans win the Syrian civil war with Turkish backing (Most of the bad blood is against the Syrian government, not the people themselves), Turkey further intervenes to crush ISIS, saving Iraqi government, and turns east economically as EU membership seems to be going nowhere.

Also, the Slavs, Bulgars, Greeks, and Albanians have been in ethnic fueds long before the Ottomans showed up, argueing over who's land is who's. The area was the site of very frequent conflict until the Turks came in and forced them all to behave using bigger-gun enforcement. Add all the modern elements and the religious issue, and its even worse. Even if they aren't fully hostile, there's certainly nothing that would UNITE them, particularly under the Albanians, who can't even play the Orthodoxy card.
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Postby Kalifati Arab shqiptar » Sun Nov 30, 2014 3:40 pm

New Granadeseret wrote:
Cymrea wrote:Not an unreasonable request. However, given that the OP owns the thread and can adjudicate the apps as he sees fit, it might not be an answer you like, if you get one at all. Gyr's a good guy, though, so we'll see. ;)


I understand that. I don't demand the verdict go in my favor; just that this issue receive a fair trial.

The Turks have been an observer member of The Arab League for years now, Syrian Republicans win the Syrian civil war with Turkish backing (Most of the bad blood is against the Syrian government, not the people themselves), Turkey further intervenes to crush ISIS, saving Iraqi government, and turns east economically as EU membership seems to be going nowhere.

Also, the Slavs, Bulgars, Greeks, and Albanians have been in ethnic fueds long before the Ottomans showed up, argueing over who's land is who's. The area was the site of very frequent conflict until the Turks came in and forced them all to behave using bigger-gun enforcement.

You know how small is the European side of Turkey is, do you?
Who says I am not playing the Orthodox card?
So what brings your nation together, religion? It is 2070 and religion won't have the same power as today.
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Postby New Granadeseret » Sun Nov 30, 2014 3:56 pm

Kalifati Arab shqiptar wrote:
New Granadeseret wrote:
I understand that. I don't demand the verdict go in my favor; just that this issue receive a fair trial.

The Turks have been an observer member of The Arab League for years now, Syrian Republicans win the Syrian civil war with Turkish backing (Most of the bad blood is against the Syrian government, not the people themselves), Turkey further intervenes to crush ISIS, saving Iraqi government, and turns east economically as EU membership seems to be going nowhere.

Also, the Slavs, Bulgars, Greeks, and Albanians have been in ethnic fueds long before the Ottomans showed up, argueing over who's land is who's. The area was the site of very frequent conflict until the Turks came in and forced them all to behave using bigger-gun enforcement.

You know how small is the European side of Turkey is, do you?
Who says I am not playing the Orthodox card?
So what brings your nation together, religion? It is 2070 and religion won't have the same power as today.


It has Istanbul, the largest city in my country, Europe as a whole, and control of the Bosphorious Straits. It has zero reason to want to leave a union with it's Turkish brother in Anatolia to join this unstable mess in the Balkans.

Albania has a majority-Muslim population and is well-recognized as part of the "Kebab". They are also by far the least-populace group in the Balkans, and apparently their leadership was crammed down everybody else's throat by what was clearly neo-Imperialism. The Greeks, Bulgars, Serbs, Croats, and everybody else aren't going be kept down very long once the American-European soldiers leave.

Well, firstly this is The Middle East. Religion is slightly more powerful here than elsewhere, particularly if Political Islam is cultivated as an ideology. The Arab League is a pre-existing organization that built the frame work for regional co-operation and governance, Turkey is well integrated economically to the region, as a major exporter of cosumer goods and investor in local industry. There is also historical precident (The Ottoman Empire being an existing, long-lasting and fairly harmonious in the region; the failed nation-state system would easily cause people to look back fondly at union and looked much better then the alternative of splintering into stable but non-viable minor states).
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