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The Four Temperental

The Overseers[ISTJ,ISFJ,ESTJ,ESFJ]
22
8%
The Creators[ISTP,ISFP,ESTP,ESFP]
27
10%
The Intellects[INTJ,INTP,ENTJ,ENTP]
153
56%
The Dreamers[INFJ,INFP,ENFJ,ENFP]
73
27%
 
Total votes : 275

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Postby Ardoki » Sat Nov 08, 2014 11:44 pm

Firsthome wrote:
Ardoki wrote:Anyway, I'm an INTJ, and I believe that to be the best personality type.


I believe you have Napoleon complex, are sadistic, and don't love anyone

I believe that you just personally attacked me.
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Postby Kelinfort » Sat Nov 08, 2014 11:46 pm

I am INTJ, destroyer of worlds.

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Postby Ardoki » Sat Nov 08, 2014 11:47 pm

Zhouran wrote:
Ardoki wrote:INTJs are more intelligent and logical.

When an INTJ thinks he's more logical than an INTP.
:palm:

"It is a bad idea to lie to an INTP"

INTJs are more logical in my opinion.
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Postby Zhouran » Sat Nov 08, 2014 11:49 pm

Ardoki wrote:
Zhouran wrote:When an INTJ thinks he's more logical than an INTP.
:palm:

"It is a bad idea to lie to an INTP"

INTJs are more logical in my opinion.

INTPs exhibit the greatest precision in thought and language of all the type; they tend to see distinctions and inconsistencies in thought and language instantaneously. The one word which captures the unique style of INTPs is architect - the architect of ideas and systems as well as the arhitect of edifices.

INTPs are pensive, analytical folks. They may venture so deeply into thought as to seem detached, and often actually are oblivious to the world around them.

Precise about their descriptions, INTPs will often correct others (or be sorely tempted to) if the shade of meaning is a bit off. While annoying to the less concise, this fine discrimination ability gives INTPs so inclined a natural advantage as, for example, grammarians and linguists. INTPs detect contradictions in statements no matter how distant in space or time the contradictory statements were produced. The intellectual scanning of INTPs has a principled quality; that is, INTPs search for whatever is relevant and pertinent to the issue at hand. Consequently, INTPs can concentrate better than any other type.

INTPs are relatively easy-going and amenable to most anything until their principles are violated, about which they may become outspoken and inflexible. They prefer to return, however, to a reserved albeit benign ambiance, not wishing to make spectacles of themselves.

Authority derived from office, position, or wide acceptance does not impress INTPs. Only statements that are logical and coherent carry weight. External authority per se is irrelevant. INTPs abhor redundancy and incoherence. Possessing a desire to understand the universe, an INTP is constantly looking for natural law. Curiosity concerning these keys to the universe is a driving force in this type.

A major concern for INTPs is the haunting sense of impending failure. They spend considerable time second-guessing themselves. The open-endedness (from Perceiving) conjoined with the need for competence (NT) is expressed in a sense that one's conclusion may well be met by an equally plausible alternative solution, and that, after all, one may very well have overlooked some critical bit of data. An INTP arguing a point may very well be trying to convince himself as much as his opposition. In this way INTPs are markedly different from INTJs, who are much more confident in their competence and willing to act on their convictions.

INTPs prize intelligence in themselves and in others, but can become intellectual dilettantes as a result of their need to amass ideas, principles, or understanding behavior. And once they know something, it is remembered. INTPs can become obsessed with analysis. Once caught in a thought process, that thought process seems to have a will of its own for INTPs, and they persevere until the issue is comprehended in all its complexity. They can be intellectual snobs and may show impatience at times with others less endowed intellectually. This quality, INTPs, find, generates hostility and defensive behaviors on the part of others, who may describe an INTP as arrogant.

For INTPs, the world exists primarily to be understood. Reality is trivial, a mere arena for proving ideas. It is essential that the universe is understood and that whatever is stated about the universe is stated correctly, with coherence and without redundancy. This is the INTPs final purpose. It matters not whether or not others understand or accept his or her truths.

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Postby Ardoki » Sat Nov 08, 2014 11:52 pm

Zhouran wrote:
Ardoki wrote:INTJs are more logical in my opinion.

INTPs exhibit the greatest precision in thought and language of all the type; they tend to see distinctions and inconsistencies in thought and language instantaneously. The one word which captures the unique style of INTPs is architect - the architect of ideas and systems as well as the arhitect of edifices.

INTPs are pensive, analytical folks. They may venture so deeply into thought as to seem detached, and often actually are oblivious to the world around them.

Precise about their descriptions, INTPs will often correct others (or be sorely tempted to) if the shade of meaning is a bit off. While annoying to the less concise, this fine discrimination ability gives INTPs so inclined a natural advantage as, for example, grammarians and linguists. INTPs detect contradictions in statements no matter how distant in space or time the contradictory statements were produced. The intellectual scanning of INTPs has a principled quality; that is, INTPs search for whatever is relevant and pertinent to the issue at hand. Consequently, INTPs can concentrate better than any other type.

INTPs are relatively easy-going and amenable to most anything until their principles are violated, about which they may become outspoken and inflexible. They prefer to return, however, to a reserved albeit benign ambiance, not wishing to make spectacles of themselves.

Authority derived from office, position, or wide acceptance does not impress INTPs. Only statements that are logical and coherent carry weight. External authority per se is irrelevant. INTPs abhor redundancy and incoherence. Possessing a desire to understand the universe, an INTP is constantly looking for natural law. Curiosity concerning these keys to the universe is a driving force in this type.

A major concern for INTPs is the haunting sense of impending failure. They spend considerable time second-guessing themselves. The open-endedness (from Perceiving) conjoined with the need for competence (NT) is expressed in a sense that one's conclusion may well be met by an equally plausible alternative solution, and that, after all, one may very well have overlooked some critical bit of data. An INTP arguing a point may very well be trying to convince himself as much as his opposition. In this way INTPs are markedly different from INTJs, who are much more confident in their competence and willing to act on their convictions.

INTPs prize intelligence in themselves and in others, but can become intellectual dilettantes as a result of their need to amass ideas, principles, or understanding behavior. And once they know something, it is remembered. INTPs can become obsessed with analysis. Once caught in a thought process, that thought process seems to have a will of its own for INTPs, and they persevere until the issue is comprehended in all its complexity. They can be intellectual snobs and may show impatience at times with others less endowed intellectually. This quality, INTPs, find, generates hostility and defensive behaviors on the part of others, who may describe an INTP as arrogant.

For INTPs, the world exists primarily to be understood. Reality is trivial, a mere arena for proving ideas. It is essential that the universe is understood and that whatever is stated about the universe is stated correctly, with coherence and without redundancy. This is the INTPs final purpose. It matters not whether or not others understand or accept his or her truths.

"As an INTJ, your primary mode of living is focused internally, where you take things in primarily via your intuition. Your secondary mode is external, where you deal with things rationally and logically.

INTJs live in the world of ideas and strategic planning. They value intelligence, knowledge, and competence, and typically have high standards in these regards, which they continuously strive to fulfill. To a somewhat lesser extent, they have similar expectations of others.

With Introverted Intuition dominating their personality, INTJs focus their energy on observing the world, and generating ideas and possibilities. Their mind constantly gathers information and makes associations about it. They are tremendously insightful and usually are very quick to understand new ideas. However, their primary interest is not understanding a concept, but rather applying that concept in a useful way. Unlike the INTP, they do not follow an idea as far as they possibly can, seeking only to understand it fully. INTJs are driven to come to conclusions about ideas. Their need for closure and organization usually requires that they take some action.

INTJ's tremendous value and need for systems and organization, combined with their natural insightfulness, makes them excellent scientists. An INTJ scientist gives a gift to society by putting their ideas into a useful form for others to follow. It is not easy for the INTJ to express their internal images, insights, and abstractions. The internal form of the INTJ's thoughts and concepts is highly individualized, and is not readily translatable into a form that others will understand. However, the INTJ is driven to translate their ideas into a plan or system that is usually readily explainable, rather than to do a direct translation of their thoughts. They usually don't see the value of a direct transaction, and will also have difficulty expressing their ideas, which are non-linear. However, their extreme respect of knowledge and intelligence will motivate them to explain themselves to another person who they feel is deserving of the effort.

INTJs are natural leaders, although they usually choose to remain in the background until they see a real need to take over the lead. When they are in leadership roles, they are quite effective, because they are able to objectively see the reality of a situation, and are adaptable enough to change things which aren't working well. They are the supreme strategists - always scanning available ideas and concepts and weighing them against their current strategy, to plan for every conceivable contingency.

INTJs spend a lot of time inside their own minds, and may have little interest in the other people's thoughts or feelings. Unless their Feeling side is developed, they may have problems giving other people the level of intimacy that is needed. Unless their Sensing side is developed, they may have a tendency to ignore details which are necessary for implementing their ideas.

The INTJ's interest in dealing with the world is to make decisions, express judgments, and put everything that they encounter into an understandable and rational system. Consequently, they are quick to express judgments. Often they have very evolved intuitions, and are convinced that they are right about things. Unless they complement their intuitive understanding with a well-developed ability to express their insights, they may find themselves frequently misunderstood. In these cases, INTJs tend to blame misunderstandings on the limitations of the other party, rather than on their own difficulty in expressing themselves. This tendency may cause the INTJ to dismiss others input too quickly, and to become generally arrogant and elitist.

INTJs are ambitious, self-confident, deliberate, long-range thinkers. Many INTJs end up in engineering or scientific pursuits, although some find enough challenge within the business world in areas which involve organizing and strategic planning. They dislike messiness and inefficiency, and anything that is muddled or unclear. They value clarity and efficiency, and will put enormous amounts of energy and time into consolidating their insights into structured patterns.

Other people may have a difficult time understanding an INTJ. They may see them as aloof and reserved. Indeed, the INTJ is not overly demonstrative of their affections, and is likely to not give as much praise or positive support as others may need or desire. That doesn't mean that he or she doesn't truly have affection or regard for others, they simply do not typically feel the need to express it. Others may falsely perceive the INTJ as being rigid and set in their ways. Nothing could be further from the truth, because the INTJ is committed to always finding the objective best strategy to implement their ideas. The INTJ is usually quite open to hearing an alternative way of doing something.

When under a great deal of stress, the INTJ may become obsessed with mindless repetitive, Sensate activities, such as over-drinking. They may also tend to become absorbed with minutia and details that they would not normally consider important to their overall goal.

INTJs need to remember to express themselves sufficiently, so as to avoid difficulties with people misunderstandings. In the absence of properly developing their communication abilities, they may become abrupt and short with people, and isolationists.

INTJs have a tremendous amount of ability to accomplish great things. They have insight into the Big Picture, and are driven to synthesize their concepts into solid plans of action. Their reasoning skills gives them the means to accomplish that. INTJs are most always highly competent people, and will not have a problem meeting their career or education goals. They have the capability to make great strides in these arenas. On a personal level, the INTJ who practices tolerances and puts effort into effectively communicating their insights to others has everything in his or her power to lead a rich and rewarding life."


http://www.personalitypage.com/INTJ.html
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Postby Zhouran » Sat Nov 08, 2014 11:55 pm

Ardoki wrote:-snip-

Okay, this is going nowhere.

The argument ends here. INTJs are NOT perfect. Such irrational, illogical and ridiculous claim is silly and absurd.

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Postby Firsthome » Sun Nov 09, 2014 12:49 am

ISFP/INFP

You have strong preference of Introversion over Extraversion (89%)
You have marginal or no preference of Sensing over Intuition (1%)
You have moderate preference of Feeling over Thinking (44%)
You have moderate preference of Perceiving over Judging (33%)
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Postby Germanic Templars » Sun Nov 09, 2014 12:54 am

Zhouran wrote:
Ardoki wrote:-snip-

Okay, this is going nowhere.

The argument ends here. INTJs are NOT perfect. Such irrational, illogical and ridiculous claim is silly and absurd.


INTJ STRONK!

I am INTP.
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Postby Zhouran » Sun Nov 09, 2014 1:28 am

Germanic Templars wrote:
Zhouran wrote:Okay, this is going nowhere.

The argument ends here. INTJs are NOT perfect. Such irrational, illogical and ridiculous claim is silly and absurd.


INTJ STRONK!

I am INTP.

But narcissistic INTJs will always claim how "perfect" they are, but without proper, logical evidence. Seriously, they can keep boasting, but at the end of the day, they are just simply humans.

And I'm INTP also, and as an INTP, I value logic, rationality and knowledge above all.

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Postby Firsthome » Sun Nov 09, 2014 1:29 am

Zhouran wrote:
Germanic Templars wrote:
INTJ STRONK!

I am INTP.

But narcissistic INTJs will always claim how "perfect" they are, but without proper, logical evidence. Seriously, they can keep boasting, but at the end of the day, they are just simply humans.

And I'm INTP also, and as an INTP, I value logic, rationality and knowledge above all.


Nope! That F makes me empathetic :3
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Postby Senyosu » Sun Nov 09, 2014 1:44 am

Firsthome wrote:
Zhouran wrote:But narcissistic INTJs will always claim how "perfect" they are, but without proper, logical evidence. Seriously, they can keep boasting, but at the end of the day, they are just simply humans.

And I'm INTP also, and as an INTP, I value logic, rationality and knowledge above all.


Nope! That F makes me empathetic :3

Riiight.

I bet I can outcompassion and outphilantrophy you in a heartbeat.

Besides, INFPs are straight up idealistic utilitarians. Logic is still a part of it.
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Postby The Khanazhk Alliance » Sun Nov 09, 2014 1:44 am

INTP SUPREMACY!

...Just kidding. I'd actually prefer a partner who's INFP.


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Postby Arkolon » Sun Nov 09, 2014 3:34 am

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Arkolon wrote:ENTP, and 100% extrovert. I like to think it makes me a special snowflake on this corner of the Internet.

100%? People aren't that amusing.

Being with a small group of people makes me feel sick and as if I'm wasting my life. People and alcohol usually fix that problem.
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Daistallia 2104 wrote:For an instrument created by highly unqualified laymen, based on Jungian type theory which has rightfuly been rejected by modern psycology, which has huge gaping holes in confirmation bias, and isn't valid, it seems to be as troublesomely popular as other garbage like astrology and $cientology.


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Try this: http://skepdic.com/myersb.html

It goes into details with references. See also: http://www.capt.org/mbti-assessment/isabel-myers.htm

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Postby Gigaverse » Sun Nov 09, 2014 4:01 am

My latest attempt at taking the test gave me INTP. And my head hurts from all the information I accumulated.

I'm not too insensitive, though. Or am I? :?
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Postby Valaran » Sun Nov 09, 2014 4:08 am

Gigaverse wrote:My latest attempt at taking the test gave me INTP. And my head hurts from all the information I accumulated.

I'm not too insensitive, though. Or am I? :?



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Postby Free Kittyland » Sun Nov 09, 2014 4:20 am

According to the test I am INTP, it's so cool to be rare... :)
This test in my opinion works perfectly. Did any of you see that mostly INTPs and Other NT personality types play this game? It's proably because most of the people don't give a crap about politics.
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Postby Conscentia » Sun Nov 09, 2014 6:43 am

Ardoki wrote:
Firsthome wrote:No. Wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong
Serial killers are the opposite of stupid and brutish. Serial killers are among the smartest people on the planet. They are very manipulative though.
Psychiatrists have observed, after an interview. That the serial killer turned the conversation around and began to interview the interviewer

They must be stupid. Why would you commit a crime when you could get into trouble? That would be a silly thing to do.

Many of them often want to be caught. They want the attention.

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Postby Aksun » Sun Nov 09, 2014 6:53 am

INTJ! One of the 2-3% in the world :D

Introversion - 17/30
Intuition - 5/30
Thinking - 25/30
Judging - 23/30
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Postby Zunkwentania » Sun Nov 09, 2014 7:09 am

Valaran wrote:
Gigaverse wrote:My latest attempt at taking the test gave me INTP. And my head hurts from all the information I accumulated.

I'm not too insensitive, though. Or am I? :?



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Arkolon wrote:Being with a small group of people makes me feel sick and as if I'm wasting my life. People and alcohol usually fix that problem.
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Postby Stern des Meeres » Sun Nov 09, 2014 11:58 am

I'm an INTJ, as a lot of other people here seem to be. I don't know how well it actually fits me, though.
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Sun Nov 09, 2014 12:02 pm

Borderline between INTJ and ENTJ... but my anxiety sort of results in me leaning more INTJ more often than not.
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Postby The Laxus Union » Sun Nov 09, 2014 12:38 pm

We don't need an argument over personality types.


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