Israel / Gaza / Hamas Mega-Thread

[Alyakia]

I believe you mean uneducated Israeli.

it's a shame the israeli supreme court refuses to recognize that an "israeli" could exist. threatens israels jewish character, y'know. and the entire point of it that is someone who is jewish and whose family has never been to israel in the past 1000 years if they were ever actually there at all has more "right" to be there than a palestinain who has lived their for 60s years just like their father, grandfather, great grandfather, etc. etc. then got evicted and/or chased out of their home by terrorists does.

i typed one wrong word. here is the revised version. notice how half of it what you typed anyway.

how? palestinians aren't in a rush to have the homes they've been removed from and can't go back to taken by an "uneducated" jew who has been taught that all their suffering for the past 60 years has been the fault of the islamic arab palestinians (always remember to say islamic arab to scare america) either

And they have a point. Except we're trying to argue why Israel should do this? What interest would any Israeli have in facing a group of uneducated Arabs who again have been taught Jews are the problem?

well, for a start, the problems with "arab = stupid jew hater" are so obvious that i honestly struggle to muster the energy to even type this sentence.

[Ralkovian Grand Island]

So you don't have any solution to Israel's concern other than "Of the Arabs living in refugee camps, only some of them want to murder you, so let's just pretend none of them want to murder you."

[Alyakia]

So you don't have any solution to Israel's concern other than "Of the Arabs living in refugee camps, only some of them want to murder you, so let's just pretend none of them want to murder you."

are you implying "let's pretend all of them want to murder you" is better? i know you basically view this whole thing as a semi-apocalyptic blood feud but come on.

i'm sure if they dislike your government for throwing them out of their homes and telling them they can't come back (unlike every jew in the world, who is free to come and take the newly vacant houses) then sitting around and still refusing because "what if they don't like us?! *builds more settlements, brings in more americans*" will really solve the problem.

[Ralkovian Grand Island]

So you don't have any solution to Israel's concern other than "Of the Arabs living in refugee camps, only some of them want to murder you, so let's just pretend none of them want to murder you."

are you implying "let's pretend all of them want to murder you" is better? i know you basically view this whole thing as a semi-apocalyptic blood feud but come on.

i'm sure if they dislike your government for throwing them out of their homes and telling them they can't come back (unlike every jew in the world, who is free to come and take the newly vacant houses) then sitting around and still refusing because "what if they don't like us?! *builds more settlements, brings in more americans*" will really solve the problem.

Except again, you still haven't offered a solution to assuage Israel's fears into even remotely considering a return.

[Alyakia]

are you implying "let's pretend all of them want to murder you" is better? i know you basically view this whole thing as a semi-apocalyptic blood feud but come on.

i'm sure if they dislike your government for throwing them out of their homes and telling them they can't come back (unlike every jew in the world, who is free to come and take the newly vacant houses) then sitting around and still refusing because "what if they don't like us?! *builds more settlements, brings in more americans*" will really solve the problem.

Except again, you still haven't offered a solution to assuage Israel's fears into even remotely considering a return.

have you considered that your fears are, about, say, 30% based in racism, and also 90% your own fault?

what is the fear? that once the palestiains have the right to return one day they will reveal their TRUE selves and start hunting down all jews?

[Rephesus]

Fixed.

There was never a reset button to begin with.

Well, not for Palestine.

[Zottistan]

Except again, you still haven't offered a solution to assuage Israel's fears into even remotely considering a return.

have you considered that your fears are, about, say, 30% based in racism, and also 90% your own fault?

what is the fear? that once the palestiains have the right to return one day they will reveal their TRUE selves and start hunting down all jews?

Are you putting forward a two-state solution or a single-state?

A single-state solution would be nice, but given both sides attitudes I really doubt it will happen. A two-state solution would be less nice and equally improbable. You can't give the Palestinians enough land without pissing off Israel, and you can't give Israel enough land without pissing of the Palestinians.

[Empire of Narnia]

Do you think Israel could build an empire of it wanted to? It has a kickass army and the countries around it are very unstable.

[Zottistan]

Do you think Israel could build an empire of it wanted to? It has a kickass army and the countries around it are very unstable.

They'd have nothing to gain from it except more enemies and pissing off the allies they have.

[Empire of Narnia]

Do you think Israel could build an empire of it wanted to? It has a kickass army and the countries around it are very unstable.

They'd have nothing to gain from it except more enemies and pissing off the allies they have.

Oil.

[Zottistan]

They'd have nothing to gain from it except more enemies and pissing off the allies they have.

Oil.

Not unless you want them to take over the whole Middle East... You know the nearest oilfields to Israel are in Northern Syria, right?

[Empire of Narnia]

Oil.

Not unless you want them to take over the whole Middle East... You know the nearest oilfields to Israel are in Northern Syria, right?

Well, a closer thing is the Suez canal. They could control a lot of trade if they annexed it.

[Gauthier]

Not unless you want them to take over the whole Middle East... You know the nearest oilfields to Israel are in Northern Syria, right?

Well, a closer thing is the Suez canal. They could control a lot of trade if they annexed it.

Hey now, Israel should be able to establish Greater Israel.

And Russia should be able to re-establish the Soviet Union too. *nod nod*

[Jayesbee]

Not unless you want them to take over the whole Middle East... You know the nearest oilfields to Israel are in Northern Syria, right?

Well, a closer thing is the Suez canal. They could control a lot of trade if they annexed it.

Until the UN imposed crippling sanctions and brought pretty much all trade with Israel to a halt until they gave it up.

[Empire of Narnia]

Well, a closer thing is the Suez canal. They could control a lot of trade if they annexed it.

Until the UN imposed crippling sanctions and brought pretty much all trade with Israel to a halt until they gave it up.

The US has veto power, and they always back Israel up.

[Russianon]

i typed one wrong word. here is the revised version. notice how half of it what you typed anyway.

how? palestinians aren't in a rush to have the homes they've been removed from and can't go back to taken by an "uneducated" jew who has been taught that all their suffering for the past 60 years has been the fault of the islamic arab palestinians (always remember to say islamic arab to scare america) either

And they have a point. Except we're trying to argue why Israel should do this? What interest would any Israeli have in facing a group of uneducated Arabs who again have been taught Jews are the problem?

http://tomatobubble.com/henry_ford_jews.html

I think it's fair to call Henry Adams, Henry Ford, Thomas Edison, Ezra Pound, Bobby Fischer and Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn uneducated Arabs.

[Russianon]

Until the UN imposed crippling sanctions and brought pretty much all trade with Israel to a halt until they gave it up.

The US has veto power, and they always back Israel up.

2500 posts !

[Alyakia]

why did you delete your post about assad murdering infants for teh lulz before i could point out that 1) there are a lot of arabs fighting assad and 2) assad is very well educated. that was really mean.

[Herskerstad]

And they have a point. Except we're trying to argue why Israel should do this? What interest would any Israeli have in facing a group of uneducated Arabs who again have been taught Jews are the problem?

http://tomatobubble.com/henry_ford_jews.html

I think it's fair to call Henry Adams, Henry Ford, Thomas Edison, Ezra Pound, Bobby Fischer and Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn uneducated Arabs.

Oh, you get plenty of intellectuals who sided with a certain Austrian during WWII, along with Arabs, slavs and even some Jews.

How exactly does that vindicate the bat-shit, loony-bin, troglodyctian position of believing in some grand Jewish new world order that has not nor ever will exist?

[Gauthier]

http://tomatobubble.com/henry_ford_jews.html

I think it's fair to call Henry Adams, Henry Ford, Thomas Edison, Ezra Pound, Bobby Fischer and Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn uneducated Arabs.

Oh, you get plenty of intellectuals who sided with a certain Austrian during WWII, along with Arabs, slavs and even some Jews.

How exactly does that vindicate the bat-shit, loony-bin, troglodyctian position of believing in some grand Jewish new world order that has not nor ever will exist?

No, but it kind of disproves the idea that it's inherently a brown people thing.

[Alyakia]

Oh, you get plenty of intellectuals who sided with a certain Austrian during WWII, along with Arabs, slavs and even some Jews.

How exactly does that vindicate the bat-shit, loony-bin, troglodyctian position of believing in some grand Jewish new world order that has not nor ever will exist?

No, but it kind of disproves the idea that it's inherently a brown people thing.

or that it's an uneducated thing. so really he's just being kinda racist. huh. what a coincidence.

[Herskerstad]

Oh, you get plenty of intellectuals who sided with a certain Austrian during WWII, along with Arabs, slavs and even some Jews.

How exactly does that vindicate the bat-shit, loony-bin, troglodyctian position of believing in some grand Jewish new world order that has not nor ever will exist?

No, but it kind of disproves the idea that it's inherently a brown people thing.

Yeah, I'd think WWII solved that question to begin with.

Does not mean that the middle east has not been embroiled in above a millennia of jew hatred with no sign of cessation.

[Russianon]

http://tomatobubble.com/henry_ford_jews.html

I think it's fair to call Henry Adams, Henry Ford, Thomas Edison, Ezra Pound, Bobby Fischer and Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn uneducated Arabs.

Oh, you get plenty of intellectuals who sided with a certain Austrian during WWII, along with Arabs, slavs and even some Jews.

How exactly does that vindicate the bat-shit, loony-bin, troglodyctian position of believing in some grand Jewish new world order that has not nor ever will exist?

I'm saying that believers in the nwo aren't necessarily uneducated

[Herskerstad]

Oh, you get plenty of intellectuals who sided with a certain Austrian during WWII, along with Arabs, slavs and even some Jews.

How exactly does that vindicate the bat-shit, loony-bin, troglodyctian position of believing in some grand Jewish new world order that has not nor ever will exist?

I'm saying that believers in the nwo aren't necessarily uneducated

Perhaps not, but detached from reality to put it mildly.

[Murkwood]

why did you delete your post about assad murdering infants for teh lulz before i could point out that 1) there are a lot of arabs fighting assad and 2) assad is very well educated. that was really mean.

Assad is still a child-murdering, human rights abusing dick. Gassing ones own people?