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[PASSED] Repeal "Liberate Panem"

Postby Velkon » Sun Aug 24, 2014 1:01 pm

Repeal "Liberate Panem"

Category: Repeal | Resolution: "Liberate Panem" | Proposed By: District XIV/Velkon



    The Security Council:

    Recognizes that the resolution to "Liberate Panem" has served its purpose, as the region now remains firmly in control of natives who have the region's best interests in mind,

    Knowledgeable that a restoration effort may fail to succeed if the natives are unable to protect their region from outside, unwanted forces,

    Cognizant of popular support of not only a repeal of this liberation - but a revival effort as well - by the natives,

    Hopes the region's current inhabitants will fulfill their promise, which is near impossible to fulfill with a liberation in place that prevents them from placing additional security over their region,

    Hereby Repeals SC #153, "Liberate Panem".

    Coauthored by Signs.
Last edited by Velkon on Tue Sep 02, 2014 9:30 pm, edited 7 times in total.

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Postby Applebania » Sun Aug 24, 2014 2:01 pm

Just submit now.
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Postby Lexicor » Sun Aug 24, 2014 2:19 pm

Full support. Submit now District!
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Postby District XIV » Sun Aug 24, 2014 2:37 pm

Maybe I will, then >_>

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Postby Star IV » Sun Aug 24, 2014 3:31 pm

Looks fairly straight-forward and complete to me. I say submit it.

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Postby Velkon » Sun Aug 24, 2014 3:49 pm

Applebania wrote:Just submit now.
Lexicor wrote:Submit now District!
Star IV wrote:I say submit it.

Done!

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Postby Chester Pearson » Sun Aug 24, 2014 4:01 pm

Opposed!
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Postby District XIV » Sun Aug 24, 2014 4:03 pm

Chester Pearson wrote:Opposed!

Thanks for your input, Chester, large garish text is much appreciated.

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Postby Ninja Kittens » Sun Aug 24, 2014 4:51 pm

"Perhaps I am the only one who feels suspicious, but it seems odd to me that now that you have the delegacy for the region, you want to repeal the liberation. Until you can adequately explain why you feel like this council should trust you with powers it felt appropriate to strip from your predecessor, I cannot endorse this proposal."
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Postby District XIV » Sun Aug 24, 2014 5:01 pm

Ninja Kittens wrote:"Perhaps I am the only one who feels suspicious, but it seems odd to me that now that you have the delegacy for the region, you want to repeal the liberation. Until you can adequately explain why you feel like this council should trust you with powers it felt appropriate to strip from your predecessor, I cannot endorse this proposal."

As I've said before, I wish to refound and rebuild the region. How do you expect me to do so when people can freely join the region which prevents a refound?

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Postby Chester Pearson » Sun Aug 24, 2014 5:47 pm

Ninja Kittens wrote:"Perhaps I am the only one who feels suspicious, but it seems odd to me that now that you have the delegacy for the region, you want to repeal the liberation. Until you can adequately explain why you feel like this council should trust you with powers it felt appropriate to strip from your predecessor, I cannot endorse this proposal."


Trust me.... You're not the only one who feels suspicious.
Separatist Peoples wrote:With a lawnchair and a large bag of popcorn in hand, Ambassador SaDiablo walks in and sets himself up comfortably. Out of a dufflebag comes a large foam finger with the name "Chester Pearson" emblazoned on it, as well as a few six-packs.
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Postby District XIV » Sun Aug 24, 2014 6:34 pm

Chester Pearson wrote:
Ninja Kittens wrote:"Perhaps I am the only one who feels suspicious, but it seems odd to me that now that you have the delegacy for the region, you want to repeal the liberation. Until you can adequately explain why you feel like this council should trust you with powers it felt appropriate to strip from your predecessor, I cannot endorse this proposal."


Trust me.... You're not the only one who feels suspicious.

*sigh* . . . I'm done trying to talk to you guys who "feel suspicious".

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Postby Ninja Kittens » Sun Aug 24, 2014 8:28 pm

District XIV wrote:
Chester Pearson wrote:
Trust me.... You're not the only one who feels suspicious.

*sigh* . . . I'm done trying to talk to you guys who "feel suspicious".


That is a terrible strategy for calming those feelings for suspicion.
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Postby Applebania » Sun Aug 24, 2014 9:49 pm

Chester Pearson wrote:
Ninja Kittens wrote:"Perhaps I am the only one who feels suspicious, but it seems odd to me that now that you have the delegacy for the region, you want to repeal the liberation. Until you can adequately explain why you feel like this council should trust you with powers it felt appropriate to strip from your predecessor, I cannot endorse this proposal."


Trust me.... You're not the only one who feels suspicious.

Your suspicions are, thankfully, unfounded.
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Postby Chester Pearson » Sun Aug 24, 2014 9:55 pm

Applebania wrote:
Chester Pearson wrote:
Trust me.... You're not the only one who feels suspicious.

Your suspicions are, thankfully, unfounded.


After all the flip-flopping that went on during and after the liberation passed? Doubtful....
Separatist Peoples wrote:With a lawnchair and a large bag of popcorn in hand, Ambassador SaDiablo walks in and sets himself up comfortably. Out of a dufflebag comes a large foam finger with the name "Chester Pearson" emblazoned on it, as well as a few six-packs.
Economic Left/Right: -8.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.90
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Postby District XIV » Sun Aug 24, 2014 10:22 pm

Chester Pearson wrote:
Applebania wrote:Your suspicions are, thankfully, unfounded.


After all the flip-flopping that went on during and after the liberation passed? Doubtful....

I was requested by Applebania to pursue this; was holding it off for later, but I'm fine with it now.

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Postby Mundiferrum » Sun Aug 24, 2014 10:46 pm

Well, my in-Panem puppet ain't really seeing anything wrong in the region yet, so meh, FULL SUPPORT.

Although yes, all of the flip-flopping in the region is sort of frustrating....
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Postby District XIV » Sun Aug 24, 2014 11:43 pm

Mundiferrum wrote:Although yes, all of the flip-flopping in the region is sort of frustrating....

From... one delegate to another? Uhh...

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Postby Mundiferrum » Sun Aug 24, 2014 11:45 pm

District XIV wrote:
Mundiferrum wrote:Although yes, all of the flip-flopping in the region is sort of frustrating....

From... one delegate to another? Uhh...

Yeah. It reminds me of really bad powerplays.
Of course, my frustrations at this point do seem rather illogical, so....yeah.
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"Call me Gravey. Only my really close friends call me Marcus, and I don't think we're that close yet. Maybe."
No, we are not a nation of cat people. We're all humans (and a few annoying gnomes) here. The cat's just there because our king is such a genius, he saw that it would be a good military strategy to have a distractingly cute flag, to blind our enemies to (our) victory!
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Postby District XIV » Sun Aug 24, 2014 11:46 pm

Mundiferrum wrote:
District XIV wrote:From... one delegate to another? Uhh...

Yeah. It reminds me of really bad powerplays.
Of course, my frustrations at this point do seem rather illogical, so....yeah.

The reason for the switch was (I'm told) Signs had to use his WA for something else =/
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Postby Anime Daisuki » Mon Aug 25, 2014 1:29 am

I echo what Wrapper said below this post. I would like to see Signs and the other older natives post to verify that they support the refound, knowing full well the risks involved.

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Postby Wrapper » Mon Aug 25, 2014 7:16 am

To satisfy my curiosity when this liberation passed, I threw a puppet into the region. Shortly afterward, there was a regional poll asking if they should refound (non-natives like me were told not to participate). From what I recall the vote was unanimously in favor of a refound, but only a few natives voted, including Signs. I think it was 4-0 or some small number like that.

To me this is enough native support to vote for a repeal, but I would like to see confirmation from Signs first.

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Postby Velkon » Mon Aug 25, 2014 1:00 pm

To satisfy y'all, here's a TG Signs sent me:
12 hours ago

Hi

I was wondering when you'd submit the repeal-proposal. But I've noticed you did by now.

So when it comes through Signs will be able to put up a password and then we can work from there to refound.

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Postby Ninja Kittens » Mon Aug 25, 2014 2:41 pm

Velkon wrote:To satisfy y'all, here's a TG Signs sent me:
12 hours ago

Hi

I was wondering when you'd submit the repeal-proposal. But I've noticed you did by now.

So when it comes through Signs will be able to put up a password and then we can work from there to refound.


Signs refers to themselves in the third person?
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Postby District XIV » Mon Aug 25, 2014 2:53 pm

Ninja Kittens wrote:
Velkon wrote:To satisfy y'all, here's a TG Signs sent me:
12 hours ago

Hi

I was wondering when you'd submit the repeal-proposal. But I've noticed you did by now.

So when it comes through Signs will be able to put up a password and then we can work from there to refound.


Signs refers to themselves in the third person?

He was using his main account, not Signs.
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