Favourite World Leader

[Benian Republic]

Il Duce Benito Amilcare Andrea Mussolini

He was the only true fascists to fight in a war other then Julius Caesar

[United Marxist Nations]

Il Duce Benito Amilcare Andrea Mussolini

He was the only true fascists to fight in a war other then Julius Caesar

Julius Caesar wasn't a fascist. Fascism didn't exist back then.

[Benian Republic]

Il Duce Benito Amilcare Andrea Mussolini

He was the only true fascists to fight in a war other then Julius Caesar

Julius Caesar wasn't a fascist. Fascism didn't exist back then.

Dirty communist

[United Marxist Nations]

Julius Caesar wasn't a fascist. Fascism didn't exist back then.

Dirty communist

That the best you got?

[Benian Republic]

Dirty communist

That the best you got?

Lo ya

[The Peaceful Territories]

Has anyone posted the Emperor Meiji?

EDIT: Or Qin Shi Huang?

A lot of people don't read up on Japanese History.

[OMGeverynameistaken]

Has anyone posted the Emperor Meiji?

EDIT: Or Qin Shi Huang?

The Meiji emperor was a puppet of the aristocracy (and oligarchs,) while Qin Shi Huangdi perpetrated what easily ranks as one of the single greatest losses of knowledge the human race has ever experienced.

If you want Japanese leaders, there's plenty of choose from. Prince Shoutoku, the three unifiers, Minamoto no Yoritomo...well, OK, he had his ups and downs...if you count those that didn't lead a unified Japan, you can include the likes of Takeda Shingen and Uesugi Kenshin, who implemented some fairly innovative reforms for their time.

[UED]

I like FDR and Park Chung Hee. Both super OP leaders in solving economical problems though FDR trolled the US by getting elected 4 times while Park Chung Hee overthrew the Republic to become dictator. Both moves actually resulted in good results though.

[District XIV]

FDR trolled the US by getting elected 4 times

Wat?!

Getting elected four times means he was popular.

[UED]

FDR trolled the US by getting elected 4 times

Wat?!

Getting elected four times means he was popular.

He was popular, but then again, look back to what George Washington did.
He could have gotten elected more than twice, but he was like
"Nope, i'm not mad with power"

FDR was like
"I'm gonna do what Washington didn't want us to do" *troll face*

And then they put a term ban after his death so nobody could troll like good ole FDR

[District XIV]

And then they put a term ban after his death so nobody could troll like good ole FDR

Er... it's not really "trolling". He did some great things, and he had the people's support, no wonder he wanted to run again.

[Empire of Narnia]

Holy Stalin doesn't get enough love on NS.

[Geilinor]

Wat?!

Getting elected four times means he was popular.

He was popular, but then again, look back to what George Washington did.
He could have gotten elected more than twice, but he was like
"Nope, i'm not mad with power"

FDR was like
"I'm gonna do what Washington didn't want us to do" *troll face*

And then they put a term ban after his death so nobody could troll like good ole FDR

FDR wasn't mad with power, he ran because he believed that his country needed it. The voters agreed.

[UED]

And then they put a term ban after his death so nobody could troll like good ole FDR

Er... it's not really "trolling". He did some great things, and he had the people's support, no wonder he wanted to run again.

I know he did great things, but in my point of view its wrong to sort of defy Washington's idea of two terms. He certainly had the support but come on I just feel its wrong to defy Washington like that.

[District XIV]

Er... it's not really "trolling". He did some great things, and he had the people's support, no wonder he wanted to run again.

I know he did great things, but in my point of view its wrong to sort of defy Washington's idea of two terms. He certainly had the support but come on I just feel its wrong to defy Washington like that.

Washington didn't even want to be President in the first place, meaning he didn't "defy Washington". G.W. didn't say "yeaaaahh... we should have only two terms", no, he just didn't want to run again.

[UED]

I know he did great things, but in my point of view its wrong to sort of defy Washington's idea of two terms. He certainly had the support but come on I just feel its wrong to defy Washington like that.

Washington didn't even want to be President in the first place, meaning he didn't "defy Washington". G.W. didn't say "yeaaaahh... we should have only two terms", no, he just didn't want to run again.

LA LA LA LA LA CAN"T HEAR YOU
Ok gg then
XD

Still I feel its just wrong

[Freiheit Reich]

Seriously though, Meiji and Qin Shi Huang don't seem to be getting much love here.

Qin Shi Huang was ruthless and violent. It would not be good for somebody to list him as their favorite leader (same goes for Stalin, Hitler, Ghenghis Khan, Vlad the Impaler, Pol Pot, Idi Amin, or G W Bush).

[Freiheit Reich]

I like FDR and Park Chung Hee. Both super OP leaders in solving economical problems though FDR trolled the US by getting elected 4 times while Park Chung Hee overthrew the Republic to become dictator. Both moves actually resulted in good results though.

Yes, FDR with his desire for a 100% tax rate above $25,000 annual income. Brilliant idea!

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/02/2 ... te-Was-100

[Montana Territory]

Emperor Alexander II of Russia

[United Marxist Nations]

Seriously though, Meiji and Qin Shi Huang don't seem to be getting much love here.

Qin Shi Huang was ruthless and violent. It would not be good for somebody to list him as their favorite leader (same goes for Stalin, Hitler, Ghenghis Khan, Vlad the Impaler, Pol Pot, Idi Amin, or G W Bush).

Qin Shi Huang also basically created China (gave it a common language and measurement system).

[Freiheit Reich]

Qin Shi Huang was ruthless and violent. It would not be good for somebody to list him as their favorite leader (same goes for Stalin, Hitler, Ghenghis Khan, Vlad the Impaler, Pol Pot, Idi Amin, or G W Bush).

Qin Shi Huang also basically created China (gave it a common language and measurement system).

True, he was clever and had some great organizational skills (important traits in a good leader) but he was also unnecessarily cruel. He against freedom of speech and supported slavery. Some more info is give below:

http://asianhistory.about.com/od/profil ... ungbio.htm

"The Emperor also had approximately 460 scholars buried alive in 212 for daring to disagree with him, and 700 more stoned to death. From then on, the only approved school of thought was legalism: follow the emperor's laws, or face the consequences."

He also believed in harsh labor and slavery:

"In order to fend off the Xiongnu, Qin Shi Huang ordered the construction of an enormous defensive wall. The work was carried out by hundreds of thousands of slaves and criminals between 220 and 206 BCE; untold thousands of them died at the task."

He also wasted resources of his nation by requesting a huge tomb be built. Talk about a huge ego! In fairness, this help his nation's economy since it is now a popular tourist sight-but it took over 2000 years for this to happen.

"Just in case the elixirs did not work, in 215 BCE the Emperor also ordered the construction of a gargantuan tomb for himself. Plans for the tomb included flowing rivers of mercury, cross-bow booby traps to thwart would-be plunderers, and replicas of the Emperor's earthly palaces.
The Terracotta Army:

To guard Qin Shi Huang in the afterworld, and perhaps allow him to conquer heaven as he had the earth, the emperor had a terracotta army of at least 8,000 clay soldiers placed in the tomb. The army also included terracotta horses, along with real chariots and weapons.

Each soldier was an individual, with unique facial features (although the bodies and limbs were mass-produced from molds)."

[United Marxist Nations]

Qin Shi Huang also basically created China (gave it a common language and measurement system).

True, he was clever and had some great organizational skills (important traits in a good leader) but he was also unnecessarily cruel. He against freedom of speech and supported slavery. Some more info is give below:

http://asianhistory.about.com/od/profil ... ungbio.htm

"The Emperor also had approximately 460 scholars buried alive in 212 for daring to disagree with him, and 700 more stoned to death. From then on, the only approved school of thought was legalism: follow the emperor's laws, or face the consequences."

He also believed in harsh labor and slavery:

"In order to fend off the Xiongnu, Qin Shi Huang ordered the construction of an enormous defensive wall. The work was carried out by hundreds of thousands of slaves and criminals between 220 and 206 BCE; untold thousands of them died at the task."

He also wasted resources of his nation by requesting a huge tomb be built. Talk about a huge ego! In fairness, this help his nation's economy since it is now a popular tourist sight-but it took over 2000 years for this to happen.

"Just in case the elixirs did not work, in 215 BCE the Emperor also ordered the construction of a gargantuan tomb for himself. Plans for the tomb included flowing rivers of mercury, cross-bow booby traps to thwart would-be plunderers, and replicas of the Emperor's earthly palaces.
The Terracotta Army:

To guard Qin Shi Huang in the afterworld, and perhaps allow him to conquer heaven as he had the earth, the emperor had a terracotta army of at least 8,000 clay soldiers placed in the tomb. The army also included terracotta horses, along with real chariots and weapons.

Each soldier was an individual, with unique facial features (although the bodies and limbs were mass-produced from molds)."

Slavery was a necessary evil in those days; the economic system of the day necessitated an enormous amount of labor to sustain large countries; that's why both Rome and China used it .

[Freiheit Reich]

True, he was clever and had some great organizational skills (important traits in a good leader) but he was also unnecessarily cruel. He against freedom of speech and supported slavery. Some more info is give below:

http://asianhistory.about.com/od/profil ... ungbio.htm

"The Emperor also had approximately 460 scholars buried alive in 212 for daring to disagree with him, and 700 more stoned to death. From then on, the only approved school of thought was legalism: follow the emperor's laws, or face the consequences."

He also believed in harsh labor and slavery:

"In order to fend off the Xiongnu, Qin Shi Huang ordered the construction of an enormous defensive wall. The work was carried out by hundreds of thousands of slaves and criminals between 220 and 206 BCE; untold thousands of them died at the task."

He also wasted resources of his nation by requesting a huge tomb be built. Talk about a huge ego! In fairness, this help his nation's economy since it is now a popular tourist sight-but it took over 2000 years for this to happen.

"Just in case the elixirs did not work, in 215 BCE the Emperor also ordered the construction of a gargantuan tomb for himself. Plans for the tomb included flowing rivers of mercury, cross-bow booby traps to thwart would-be plunderers, and replicas of the Emperor's earthly palaces.
The Terracotta Army:

To guard Qin Shi Huang in the afterworld, and perhaps allow him to conquer heaven as he had the earth, the emperor had a terracotta army of at least 8,000 clay soldiers placed in the tomb. The army also included terracotta horses, along with real chariots and weapons.

Each soldier was an individual, with unique facial features (although the bodies and limbs were mass-produced from molds)."

Slavery was a necessary evil in those days; the economic system of the day necessitated an enormous amount of labor to sustain large countries; that's why both Rome and China used it .

Why couldn't they pay the wage they deserved based on free market principles? Wage rates wouldn't have been high.

Prison labor is fine, as long as prison terms are fair based on the crime committed.

Perhaps mandatory civil service could have been required of all able bodied people. After 2 years, they would be free for life. This is still slavery but a less harsh method. Also, too many unnecessary deaths occurred during the building of the Great Wall. I doubt they were given acceptable rations and they probably were overworked and lacked decent medical care. Remember-I am not even a socialist so my expectations of fair labor conditions are lower than most people in Nationstates but they are much higher then Emperor Qin's standards.

[United Marxist Nations]

Slavery was a necessary evil in those days; the economic system of the day necessitated an enormous amount of labor to sustain large countries; that's why both Rome and China used it .

Why couldn't they pay the wage they deserved based on free market principles? Wage rates wouldn't have been high.

Prison labor is fine, as long as prison terms are fair based on the crime committed.

Perhaps mandatory civil service could have been required of all able bodied people. After 2 years, they would be free for life. This is still slavery but a less harsh method. Also, too many unnecessary deaths occurred during the building of the Great Wall. I doubt they were given acceptable rations and they probably were overworked and lacked decent medical care. Remember-I am not even a socialist so my expectations of fair labor conditions are lower than most people in Nationstates but they are much higher then Emperor Qin's standards.

They couldn't be given wages based on the free market because the free market wouldn't exist for another thousand years or so. Economic conditions constantly evolve; part if being a scientific socialist is not applying conditions of the present to an analyzation of the distant past. The two years of mandatory civil service would have crippled the economy, because it would have forced more skilled laborers, intellectuals, and artisans into work where their talents would go to waste, as well as create a massive underclass of former civil servants.

[Tamoi]

Hmm, tough question.
I'm going to have to go with Ögedei Khan, and to a lesser extent his father Chinghis.