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The First Steel War (OOC, Closed, ATTR Greysteel)

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The First Steel War (OOC, Closed, ATTR Greysteel)

Postby Alexiandra » Thu Jul 31, 2014 5:01 am

OOC thread for the planned intra-regional war between the leftist and rightist blocs.
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Postby Nerotysia » Thu Jul 31, 2014 5:04 am

As I said on the previous thread, we should really post total summaries of our militaries here before the war.

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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Thu Jul 31, 2014 5:10 am

Question:

As this is an intraregional conflict, will I still be able to use my lands in other regions?
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Postby Nerotysia » Thu Jul 31, 2014 5:14 am

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Question:

As this is an intraregional conflict, will I still be able to use my lands in other regions?

I suppose so. How would you use them?

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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Thu Jul 31, 2014 5:20 am

Nerotysia wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Question:

As this is an intraregional conflict, will I still be able to use my lands in other regions?

I suppose so. How would you use them?

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Postby Nerotysia » Thu Jul 31, 2014 5:34 am

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
Nerotysia wrote:I suppose so. How would you use them?

reinforcements

I'm not so sure about that, but I can't really find any problems with it, so I suppose it's alright.

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Postby Alexiandra » Thu Jul 31, 2014 6:06 am

Nerotysia and I have elected to field reasonable numbers of ships and troops, and we'd appreciate it if all other belligerents could follow suit. TGVH, could you give us an indication of how many troops and vessels your military contains?
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Postby Nerotysia » Thu Jul 31, 2014 6:19 am

Everyone, use this form (borrowed from the Holy Marsh) to lay out your numbers, please. Also remember this is for OOC purposes only - your nations IC knowledge of other nations will obviously not be as in-depth.

Name of Nation:

Military Branches and Roles:
Regular Ground Forces:
Small Arms Used:
Body Armor Used:
Infantry Support Weapons Used:
Anti-Tank/Anti-Vehicle Weapons Used:
APCs/IFVs Used:
Tanks Used:
Artillery Used:
Brief Summary of Training and Recruitment:
Brief Summary of Standard Military Doctrine:
Brief Summary of Military Culture:
Assessment of Officer Corps (Tactical Capabilities):
Assessment of Officer Corps (Strategic Capabilities)
Assessment of Logistical Capabilities:
Personnel:
Combat Personnel:

Air Forces

Fighter Aircraft Used:
Strategic Bombers Used:
Ground Attack Aircraft Used (Incl. Gunships and Attack Helicopters):
Air Transport Used:
Number of Aircraft:
Personnel:

Naval Forces

Number of Frigates:
Number of Destroyers:
Number of Cruisers:
Number of Aircraft Carriers:
Number of Amphibious Assault Ships:
Number of Submarines:
Personnel:

Paramilitary Groups(Note: This would cover Militias as well as special warrior groups)

Stated Purpose of Paramilitary Group(s):
Small Arms Used:
Body Armor Used:
Infantry Support Weapons Used:
Anti-Tank/Anti-Vehicle Weapons Used:
Vehicles Used:
Brief Summary of Training and Recruitment:
Brief Summary of Standard Doctrine:
Brief Summary of Paramilitary Culture:
Are the organizations primarily Offensive or Defensive?:
Are the organizations under a clear Military command, under clear command of the State, or mostly independent?:
Is there significant civilian support for the Paramilitary groups?
Personnel:
Combat Personnel:

Overall Assessment:

Are the branches of the Military united with a clear command structure for use between branches?:
Are Strategic Decisions decided by Military or Civilian leadership?:
Are the branches more or less united, with open co-operation between the branches?:
Are there any enmities between branches?:
Is the overall Strategic Doctrine Defensive or Offensive?:
Nuclear Option?:
How many?:
Via Submarine?:
Via Strategic Bomber?:
Via land-based ICBM?:
Via land-based TBM?:
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Postby Shelliania » Thu Jul 31, 2014 6:19 am

Is this just the topic to discuss the overall information? Will there also be one for writing the story, you know, more history-like?

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Postby Nerotysia » Thu Jul 31, 2014 6:20 am

Shelliania wrote:Is this just the topic to discuss the overall information? Will there also be one for writing the story, you know, more history-like?

Yes

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Postby Alexiandra » Thu Jul 31, 2014 6:25 am

Shelliania wrote:Is this just the topic to discuss the overall information? Will there also be one for writing the story, you know, more history-like?

An IC (In Character) thread will be posted once we've finalised all the details.
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Postby Nerotysia » Thu Jul 31, 2014 10:47 am

In case you guys need an example, I've posted mine;

Military Branches and Roles: The Nerotysian People's Army, the Nerotysian People's Navy, the Nerotysian People's Air Force, the Special Forces, the Domestic Guard.
Regular Ground Forces: The Nerotysian People's Army
* - Nerotysian designed
Small Arms Used: AK-108* (upgraded version of AK-103), MP-443, PP-19, and others
Body Armor Used: Standard kevlar jackets and ballistic helmets
Infantry Support Weapons Used: Kord 12.7, NSV, other modified versions, 2B14 Podnos
Anti-Tank/Anti-Vehicle Weapons Used: MT-12 Rapira, 9K338 Igla, Strela-3
APCs/IFVs Used: BMP-5*
Tanks Used: Zykov-III*, very few T-90s
Artillery Used: 9A52-4 Tornado, BM-35*, TOS-2*
Brief Summary of Training and Recruitment: All Nerotysian men who are declared physically able are required to join the military at age 18 and are put through basic combat training, which is required for service in all branches of the military and takes around twelve weeks. After this period, recruits are given the choice to leave the military or continue with advanced, specialised training to join the military. If one chooses to leave the military, they are entered into a draft, which selects recruits to be added to the reserve force. If one chooses to leave but is drafted into the reserve force, they must also undergo advanced training. Advanced training can take anywhere from 12-56 weeks depending on the branch.
Brief Summary of Standard Military Doctrine: Nerotysian military doctrine relies on quick, focussed, and powerful attacks in order to gain strategic advantages in a war. In order to successfully accomplish these blitzing attacks, Nerotysian forces rely heavily on detailed and accurate information about enemy positions and movements. Leading these attacks are often armored units, while infantry sweep in behind them and destroy what remains. Often, the targets of these attacks are supply lines and other logistical assets, as Nerotysian doctrine tends to focus more on isolating and demoralizing an enemy force rather than destroying it outright.
Brief Summary of Military Culture: The military is possibly the most conservative element of Nerotysian society, with many troops remaining very religious and holding traditionally conservative values. Despite this, they are well respected by civilians, especially sailors and other naval officers.
Assessment of Officer Corps (Tactical Capabilities): Officers undergo rigorous mental conditioning and training to prepare for their position, and are expected to maintain a logical view of things despite pressure and to act decisively, but not rashly.
Assessment of Officer Corps (Strategic Capabilities): Higher strategic officers are often focussed on achieving decisive goals as quickly as possible, while also minimizing casualties.
Assessment of Logistical Capabilities: The scope and power of the Nerotysian navy and air force, and that of her allies, assures a very secure and stable supply network.
Personnel: 6,000,000
Combat Personnel: 2,000,000

Air Forces
* - Nerotysian designed
Fighter Aircraft Used: N-12 Bloodhound* (fifth-generation Air Superiority), Ts-6 Blizzard* ( fifth-generation Multirole), some MiG-31s (Interceptor)
Strategic Bombers Used: Tu-160, some Y-15 Falcons*
Ground Attack Aircraft Used (Incl. Gunships and Attack Helicopters): Su-34, K-4 Hydra*
Air Transport Used: Y-20 Leviathan*, An-124 Condor, II-76 Candid
Number of Aircraft: 10,000 total
Personnel: 750,000

Naval Forces
Number of Frigates: 20
Number of Destroyers: 224
Number of Cruisers: 75 (including battlecruisers)
Number of Aircraft Carriers: 27
Number of Amphibious Assault Ships: 20
Number of Submarines: 240
Personnel: 2,365,098
(These seem rather large when compared to yours, but I'd like your opinion on my ability to maintain them. The only reason they're this high is to maintain a common thread linking this to my Naval overview in my factbook, but I can change it if need be.)

Paramilitary Groups (Note: This would cover Militias as well as special warrior groups)
* - Nerotysian designed
Stated Purpose of Paramilitary Group(s): To assist the oppressed peoples worldwide using less than legal or covert methods.
Small Arms Used: PP-19, PP-20*, AK-81*, MP-443, various other weaponry
Body Armor Used: Varies greatly
Infantry Support Weapons Used: Usually none, if needed Kord 12.7
Anti-Tank/Anti-Vehicle Weapons Used: MT-12 Rapira
Vehicles Used: Varies greatly
Brief Summary of Training and Recruitment: Recruits are offered a position after extensive research into their history, and if they accept they are trained quite extensively in a wide variety of topics for around two years, with another year reserved for any specialised training they require.
Brief Summary of Standard Doctrine: They carry out covert or illegal operations, usually behind enemy lines or within enemy territory, to either assist the main forces or assist revolutionaries and rebellions.
Brief Summary of Paramilitary Culture: They are rather romanticized in the public eye, as they are seen as daring and heroic friends of foreign revolutions and helpers of oppressed peoples worldwide. However, there have been major calls for them to shed some of their secrecy.
Are the organizations primarily Offensive or Defensive?: Offensive
Are the organizations under a clear Military command, under clear command of the State, or mostly independent?: It acts remarkably indepedently, though it is overseen with a light hand by the Ministers of Intelligence and Defense.
Is there significant civilian support for the Paramilitary groups?: Yes, although there is also significant opposition. It is a contentious issue, although most don't see the agents themselves as bad.
Personnel: 12,000
Combat Personnel: 6,000

Overall Assessment:

Are the branches of the Military united with a clear command structure for use between branches?: Yes. All branches have a clear leader who collaborates with the other leaders and reports to the Minster of Defense and the President.
Are Strategic Decisions decided by Military or Civilian leadership?: Military, though most operations must be approved by the President, with some exceptions in wartime.
Are the branches more or less united, with open co-operation between the branches?: Yes. All information from each branch is openly available to all other branches, and officers are trained to cooperate with the other branches as much as possible.
Are there any enmities between branches?: The army and navy competes for greater popularity in the public eye, but this conflict is generally rather friendly.
Is the overall Strategic Doctrine Defensive or Offensive?: Offensive
Nuclear Option?: Yes
How many?: ~ 9,000
Via Submarine?: 689
Via Strategic Bomber?: 2,235
Via land-based ICBM?: 4,565
Via land-based TBM?: 1,305
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Postby Alexiandra » Thu Jul 31, 2014 10:49 am

Military Branches and Roles: The People's Army, The People's Navy, The People's Airforce, and The People's Intelligence Agency
Regular Ground Forces:The People's Army, along with contingents from The People's Navy
Small Arms Used: Anemonian AR5R2 5.56, AR-19 (modified derivative of the M16), Lyran Hellhammer, G18, other Alexiandran systems
Body Armor Used: Standard Alexiandran kevlar jackets and ballistic helmets
Infantry Support Weapons Used: AR-170 light machine gun, M249 SAW, M-8 80mm mortar
Anti-Tank/Anti-Vehicle Weapons Used: SMAW, Javelin, RPG variants
APCs/IFVs Used: Modified M2 Bradley, Puma
Tanks Used: VMK Panthera Tigris, VMK Panthera Leo, M1A3 Abrams
Artillery Used:Archer 155mm, Lyran Hellion cruise missiles, L118 Light Gun, others
Brief Summary of Training and Recruitment: Upon applying for the People's Army, recruits are medically examined before partaking in a basic fitness test. Those who pass the test are then combat-trained for up to nine months before being deployed to the field. Only applicants with more than five basic Alexiandran Educational Awards (AEAs) are accepted into the Army.
Brief Summary of Standard Military Doctrine: Alexiandran doctrine revolves around the principle of fluid defence using superior technology and firepower. Ground forces enjoy a great deal of fire support from networks of artillery emplacements and even naval bombardments when on the defensive. Instead of concentrating forces in one area, however, Alexiandran commanders tend to delay hostile advances using elite, camouflaged anti-tank teams and air support.
Brief Summary of Military Culture: Members of the armed forces in Alexiandra are generally very well-respected within the civilian world. Troops are regularly praised and rewarded for acts of heroism, with some members of the armed forces even being awarded honourary titles such as "Hero of the Republic".
Assessment of Officer Corps (Tactical Capabilities): Officers undergo more training than their regular infantry counterparts, and so they are expected to operate at a very high standard. Officers are trained to remain cool under fire, and to maintain an awareness of both friendly and enemy positions on the battlefield.
Assessment of Officer Corps (Strategic Capabilities): Commissioned officers are responsible for drawing up casualty predictions and planning both offensive and defensive operations. They are well-trained in the principles of warfare, and are expected to minimise casualties. When necessary, officers are usually prepared to sacrifice men if the situation requires it - in this sense, they are somewhat detached from their men.
Assessment of Logistical Capabilities: The Army and Marines enjoy a relatively secure supply network, thanks to the power of the Republic's navy. Troops are supplied via all available avenues during combat, including by air and sea.
Personnel: 20,000,000
Combat Personnel: 5,000,000

Air Forces

Fighter Aircraft Used: F-22 Raptor, Illusion Multirole Fighter, F-16 Fighting Falcon, F/A-18 Hornet, F/A-18E/F Super Hornet, some Alexiandran designs
Strategic Bombers Used: B-2 Spirit, B-1B Lancer, B-52 Stratofortress, other Alexiandran designs
Ground Attack Aircraft Used (Incl. Gunships and Attack Helicopters): Alexiandran AH-7 Wasp, AH-64 Apache, A-10 Thunderbolt, AC-130 variants, SH-10 Firefly scout helicopter, F-35 Joint Strike Fighter
Air Transport Used: C-130 Hercules, C-5 Galaxy, C-17 Globemaster
Number of Aircraft: Total (including helicopters) of 30,000 aircraft
Personnel: 2,000,000

Naval Forces

Number of Frigates: 40
Number of Destroyers: 224
Number of Cruisers: 80
Number of Aircraft Carriers: 36
Number of Amphibious Assault Ships: 33
Number of Submarines: 261
Personnel: 1,563,840 (roughly)


(I was reduced to multiplying US naval figures for these numbers - forgive me :P)

Paramilitary Groups(Note: This would cover Militias as well as special warrior groups)

Stated Purpose of Paramilitary Group(s): To cause dissent in occupied areas and foment rebellion in hostile nations
Small Arms Used: AKM, G18
Body Armor Used: None
Infantry Support Weapons Used: M249 SAW, M240B
Anti-Tank/Anti-Vehicle Weapons Used: RPG variants
Vehicles Used: Light jeeps, submersible infiltration vehicles, Blackhawk helicopters
Brief Summary of Training and Recruitment: Paramilitary operatives are recruited from the Paratrooper and Special Forces regiments of the Republic's Army. They are trained for over two years in a multitude of field techniques.
Brief Summary of Standard Doctrine: Paramilitary soldiers function as a special action group, carrying out deniable operations behind enemy lines. They use guerilla tactics, targeted assassinations, etc.
Brief Summary of Paramilitary Culture: The secretive nature of life in the Paramilitary is reflected in the way the organisation is perceived by the public. Many conspiracy theories surround the Paramilitary, and they are often (erroneously) suspected by the public of assassinating prominent celebrities.
Are the organizations primarily Offensive or Defensive?: Offensive
Are the organizations under a clear Military command, under clear command of the State, or mostly independent?: The Paramilitary is answerable to the civic justice system. It is monitored by a collection of individuals from both the military and the civilian government.
Is there significant civilian support for the Paramilitary groups?: The highly classified nature of the Paramilitary's work means that the public tends to distrust it.
Personnel: 30,000
Combat Personnel: 5,000

Overall Assessment:

Are the branches of the Military united with a clear command structure for use between branches?: Yes. Branches answer to overall commanders that are appointed to lead operations in different threatres - these commanders are, in turn answerable to the commander-in-chief.
Are Strategic Decisions decided by Military or Civilian leadership?: Military, but plans are approved by the President before being executed.
Are the branches more or less united, with open co-operation between the branches?: Yes. The centralised command structure means that the branches are forced to co-operate if they are to succeed.
Are there any enmities between branches?: The Navy and the Airforce occasionally argue over responsibilities in the Gulf of Hamza, but these disagreements are generally minor.
Is the overall Strategic Doctrine Defensive or Offensive?: Defensive
Nuclear Option?: Yes
How many?: Over 21,000 nuclear devices
Via Submarine?: 2,000
Via Strategic Bomber?: 5,000
Via land-based ICBM?: 11,000
Via land-based TBM?: 3,000

It should be noted that I've actually scaled back my numbers a little. I'd encourage everyone to do the same, so that we can avoid a complete mess.
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Postby Yalos » Thu Jul 31, 2014 5:58 pm

Name of Nation: The Nationalist Infinite Empire of the Greater Yalosii Peoples

Military Branches and Roles: The Nationalist Army, the Nationalist Navy, Nationalist Strategic Weapons Command, Nationalist People’s Army, Nationalist Stormtrooper Divisions

Regular Ground Forces: The Nationalist Army

Small Arms Used: The Kazzakka Type-2 Kalashnikov Variant is the standard issue assault rifle, with various modifications. The gun is lightweight, cheap to produce and durable—perfect for the rolling hills, forests and bogs of the Yalosii homeland. The Nationalist Army also equips officers with swords. Mountaineering units, Marine Storm troopers and various Elite brigades are equipped with the Kazzakka Type 55, which features longer range, small stock and more accuracy, though it is considerably much more expensive.

Body Armor Used: Typical Modular Tactical Vest with SATI.

Infantry Support Weapons Used: PK Light Machine Gun, Dragonov Sniper Rifle, The Kazzakka Heavy Machine Gun, the Kazzakka Type 44 Infantry Mortar, the Kazzakka Type 46 Infantry Sniper Rifle

Anti-Tank/Anti-Vehicle Weapons Used: RPG-7, AT-5 Spandrel AGTM, AT-4 Spigot AGTM, RPG-2, the Syo’kakka Ettukioka Mikkikni AGTM, (The Pride of Yalos’ Weapon’s development)

APCs/IFVs Used: BTR-80, Type 63 (YW531), BMP-1 Amphibious Assault IFV, the Jiota Type 66 APC, the Jiota Type 92 IFV

Tanks Used: Pokpung-Ho, T-90, Various K1A1 variants, T-72, T-60, the Jiota Type 102 MBT, the Jiota Type 105 Light Reconnaissance Tank

Artillery Used: BM-24, M-1978, M-1985, BMD-20, and Syo’kakka Ettujaanoi Yuietawa 240 mm Heavy Rail Mounted Cannon, the Syo’kakka Namaikeikko Salarjika 125 mm Howitzer, the Syo’jioso Salarjika MLRS

Brief Summary of Training and Recruitment: The Yalosii citizen is trained from the moment he, or she, enrolls into his or her first day of preschool. From that point forward, along with the basics of mathematics and literacy, the child is taught how to be fearless in the face of fire, how to clean his rifle and how to make a bed, amongst other things. The Schools are little more than tools of propaganda, and effectively are used to train young recruits for the strenuous life of a Yalosii soldier. The nation technically fields an entirely volunteer army, though at least several hundred thousand front-line personnel are reformed political prisoners and members of penal battalions. However, the vast majority of the army is highly motivated, indoctrinated, and enjoys the advantages of a life time’s training and physical conditioning. Even physically disabled citizens are put to use, driving trucks and managing radio systems. Every citizen is expected to play a part in the defense of the motherland. When it comes time for the soldier to be trained, he or she is, according to school performance and test scores, assigned to a specialized training facility; a good mathematician, for example, might be sent to an artillery or rocketry school.

Brief Summary of Standard Military Doctrine: Yalos operates on the assumption that; A) it will fight alone, and B) its foes will be one of the larger powers in the region. With these points of emphasis in mind, the Nationalist Army makes widespread use of chemical and biological weapons, in addition to numbers of light infantry and advanced tank killing weapons. Yalos prepares for a massive, total war, and has planned thus. Because of the nation’s limited road and rail capabilities, it is assumed that Light Infantry in the form of Nationalist Army and Nationalist People’s Army personnel will take their toll upon the invaders while underground tunnels and bunkers permit the NA’s personnel to inflict heavy damage on invading forces. Such tunnels are long, winding, and hard to trace. Special Forces can be rapidly deployed to neighboring nations to wreak havoc. There is little room for vehicular movement and helicopters and air support are dealt with by a number of concealed surfaces to air batteries and SAM platforms throughout the nation. Yalos may not have an advanced army; it does, however, have an effective, highly motivated one.

Brief Summary of Military Culture: See above. Nearly all aspects of life, media and culture are turned to propaganda purposes, and used to glorify the eternal struggle against Imperialism and foreign devils. Soldiers are honored, and officers are seen as the most self sacrificing, honorable members of society.

Assessment of Officer Corps (Tactical Capabilities): The Officer is a highly motivated, well educated life long career soldier of Yalos’ military aristocracy. With a lifetime of military preparation and drilling, the Yalosii Military Command is well prepared to adapt to new challenges on the battlefield and can operate fluidly, sometimes breaking tactical doctrine in favor of lower level decision making.

Assessment of Officer Corps (Strategic Capabilities) At the higher levels of military command, there is little need, or desire, for creativity. As Yalos’ inherent defensive position requires lower level cooperation and initiative, the High Command merely makes general, sweeping commands, and has them carried out. Much planning is done at the lower levels, where requests are made to a massive bureaucratic force for the movement of additional supplies and resources for certain units.

Assessment of Logistical Capabilities: The Yalosii people, while lacking somewhat in the way of surface roads and rail, make do with a vast, complex series of underground forts and railways that can be cut off and demolished upon discovery. On the above surface, mass utilization of horse drawn wagon and partisan supply hikers can keep a sustained war effort going, and given the Yalosii army’s characteristic light maintenance and ability to survive on rationed supplies, the army does very well. Supplies from the nearby, slave labor, resource rich North Yemen additionally allow Yalos to continue to carry through with military buildup, and during a war, the whole of industry could be turned into military manufacture and production. Mountain based energy production and hydro election plants ensure that the nation’s few electronic systems are kept running, though Yalosii forces are trained in communication via smoke, radio, and even carrier pigeon to ameliorate the effects of an otherwise devastating, potential EMP strike. The Yalosii have a strong industrial support base, and can use it to fight a total war.

Personnel: 16,200,000

Combat Personnel: 6,100,000



Air Forces

Fighter Aircraft Used: The Jiota Type 22 Air Defense Jet, the Jiota Type 23 Air Defense Jet, the Jiota Type 24 Air Defense Jet (heh, creative names, huehuehue.)

Strategic Bombers Used: The Jiota Type 12 Air Offensive Jet, the Jiota Type 13 Jiota Air Offensive Jet, the Jiota Type 14 Experimental Air Offensive Jet

Ground Attack Aircraft Used (Incl. Gunships and Attack Helicopters): The Jiota Type 77 Multirole Transport Gunship Variant, the Jiota Type 76 Gunship,

Air Transport Used: The Jiota Type 75 Troop Transport, the Jiota Type 56 Transport Copter, The Jiota Type 57 Jiota Makkainokka Heavy Ordinance Transport

Number of Aircraft: 7,600 (though few are actually combat aircraft)

Personnel: 1,140,000

Naval Forces

Number of Frigates: 40

Number of Destroyers: 20

Number of Cruisers: 160

Number of Aircraft Carriers: 0

Number of Amphibious Assault Ships: 440

Number of Submarines: 89

Personnel: 500,000


Paramilitary Groups

Stated Purpose of Paramilitary Group(s): To wage never ending war upon the invading White Devils who attempt to destroy the glorious homeland. There is no surrender, there is no mercy. For too many years, the Yalosii people were slaves of foreign powers; in the name of Thasal’Tha the prophet, the Yalosii people will never permit themselves fall under foreign dominance again. They would much rather die! For the Eyuka!

Small Arms Used: Kazzakka Type-2 Assault Rifles

Body Armor Used: Perhaps Helmets, but other than that, none.

Infantry Support Weapons Used: Kazzakka Type 46 Sniper Rifle

Anti-Tank/Anti-Vehicle Weapons Used: RPG-7, AT-5 Spandrel AGTM, AT-4 Spigot AGTM, RPG-2, the Syo’kakka Ettukioka Mikkikni AGTM, (The Pride of Yalos’ Weapon’s development)

Vehicles Used: Few, though carts, wagons and a few APCs and Trucks are not out of the question.
Brief Summary of Training and Recruitment:

Brief Summary of Standard Doctrine: The Nationalist People’s Guards are there to defend the sacred soil of the Yalosii homeland through any means possible. Suicide bombings, ambushes and human wave attacks are all valid tactics of this massive citizen’s militia, which operates only in times of war, even almost never at full strength. The number is really just used to wave at nations considering an invasion.

Brief Summary of Paramilitary Culture: All citizens are encouraged to enlist, and those who enlist usually get relatively better food and material rations. The citizen is constantly told that his duty is to fight the never ending war for the glory and the defense of the eternal home soil. It is seen, almost as a privilege, in some ways, to be a member of the Nationalist People’s Guard.

Are the organizations primarily Offensive or Defensive?: Defensive

Are the organizations under a clear Military command, under clear command of the State, or mostly independent?: They are under direct control of the State, but can operate independently

Is there significant civilian support for the Paramilitary groups? Yes

Personnel: 2,000,000

Combat Personnel: 2,000,000



Overall Assessment:


Are the branches of the Military united with a clear command structure for use between branches?: Yes.

Are Strategic Decisions decided by Military or Civilian leadership?: Military leadership; the Eyuka technically controls the military, but knows wisely to allow it to plan its own operations.

Are the branches more or less united, with open co-operation between the branches?: Yes.

Are there any enmities between branches?: Yes. Intense rivalries between Strategic Weapons Command and the Zeikla Stormtrooper Corps, that are mostly political, if anything.

Is the overall Strategic Doctrine Defensive or Offensive?: Defensive, even if the world assumes it is offensive.

Nuclear Option?: Yes

How many?: 11,000

Via Submarine?: 3,000

Via Strategic Bomber?: 2,000

Via land-based ICBM?: 0

Via land-based TBM?: 6,000
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Postby The Free Republic of Akan » Fri Aug 01, 2014 3:21 pm

My app. Notice how weak air force is. Allows a very large navy.


Name of Nation: The Free Republic of Akan

Military Branches and Roles: Red Navy: Protect Akanian interests in the sea
Red Army: Protect Akanian territory
Red Air Force: Protect Akanian aerospace
Regular Ground Forces: The Red Army
Small Arms Used: The AK-47
Body Armor Used: Special Ops teams get Dragon Skin armor (look it up, its real). Normal forces have kevlar jackets.
Infantry Support Weapons Used: X-4 75 mm portable mortar, X-8 Machine gun
Anti-Tank/Anti-Vehicle Weapons Used: Javelin, RPG
APCs/IFVs Used: RTC-4, can carry 8 people and has 2 30mm machine guns
Tanks Used: "Truthan" heavy tank: 2500 , "Akania" MBT: 3250
Artillery Used: "Rainmaker" 175 mm artillery, cruise missiles, Nuclear artillery in worst case
Brief Summary of Training and Recruitment: A compulsory service for 2 years as soon as graduating collage. After that, choice of staying in army or going out into the world. If they stay, a rigorous training program is put upon them. They also have tactics classes, shooting range sessions, and combat sessions (practice).
Brief Summary of Standard Military Doctrine: Encirclement is the main tactic Akanian commanders use. They use heavy tanks to pound the enemy, while the faster MBTS and infantry encircle the opposing force.
Brief Summary of Military Culture: The highest military honor is the Patriot award. It goes to the one who has killed the most enemy troops in battle. Anyone in the military is highly respected.
Assessment of Officer Corps (Tactical Capabilities): Officers have it drilled into their mind to remain cool. They train under simulated fire. They are expected to stay aware of the battlefield.
Assessment of Officer Corps (Strategic Capabilities): Expected to plan local offensives and counter offensives.
Assessment of Logistical Capabilities: Very good at sea due to the very strong navy, weaker in the air.
Personnel: 8,040,000
Combat Personnel: 5,400,000

Air Forces

Fighter Aircraft Used: "Falcon" fighter aircraft
Strategic Bombers Used: Tupelov 160, B52
Ground Attack Aircraft Used (Incl. Gunships and Attack Helicopters): Apache helicopter, "James" class gunship
Air Transport Used: Variant of the C-5
Number of Aircraft: 1350
Personnel: 125,000

Naval Forces

Number of Frigates: 21
Number of Destroyers: 100
Number of Cruisers: 13
Number of Aircraft Carriers: 12
Number of Amphibious Assault Ships: 11
Number of Submarines: 68
Personnel: 450,000

Paramilitary Groups(Note: This would cover Militias as well as special warrior groups)

Stated Purpose of Paramilitary Group(s): To assist in attack purposes and defend the motherland at all costs.
Small Arms Used: A-67 Assault Rifle
Body Armor Used: Dragon Skin body armor
Infantry Support Weapons Used: .50 caliber sniper rifle
Anti-Tank/Anti-Vehicle Weapons Used: RPG-7, Javelin Missile
Vehicles Used: APCs, but usually on foot for stealth
Brief Summary of Training and Recruitment: In order to be a member of the special forces, you have to go through 8 weeks of hell. A brutal training camp. The ones who pass train hard, with saturday being a rest day.
Brief Summary of Standard Doctrine: Harassing enemy logistics and command chains is the focus. They believe if those collapse, the army collapses.
Brief Summary of Paramilitary Culture: Paramilitary members are very highly regarded. They are usually richer, fitter, and are often given free plane tickets.
Are the organizations primarily Offensive or Defensive?: Offensive
Are the organizations under a clear Military command, under clear command of the State, or mostly independent?: Independent
Is there significant civilian support for the Paramilitary groups? Yes
Personnel: 3000
Combat Personnel: 3000

Overall Assessment:

Are the branches of the Military united with a clear command structure for use between branches?: Yes
Are Strategic Decisions decided by Military or Civilian leadership?: Military
Are the branches more or less united, with open co-operation between the branches?: Yes
Are there any enmities between branches?: A rivalry between the air force and navy, as both want naval airfare.
Is the overall Strategic Doctrine Defensive or Offensive?: Offensive
Nuclear Option?: Yes
How many?: 9,000
Via Submarine?: 3000
Via Strategic Bomber?: 2000
Via land-based ICBM?: 3000
Via land-based TBM?: 1000
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Also, the last transmission could have been read by anyone. So, all governments already know about this.
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Postby Holy Marsh » Sat Aug 02, 2014 10:56 am

I was asked by GVH to grade these forces since they use my form. I will do so soon. One thing to note is that I am not sure if I should grade them as I do in the Marshite Threat Assessment thread- as in, what threat does it pose to the Marshite church- or separate from that.

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Holy Marsh wrote:I was asked by GVH to grade these forces since they use my form. I will do so soon. One thing to note is that I am not sure if I should grade them as I do in the Marshite Threat Assessment thread- as in, what threat does it pose to the Marshite church- or separate from that.

Could you perhaps assess it's overall capability? Like, in a general sense?

Or, on second thought, you could assess them in relation to each other.
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Postby Holy Marsh » Sat Aug 02, 2014 12:05 pm

M-SAD has been asked to do a swift assessment of the participants in a regional war, not in relation to the Marshite Church, but to each other. M-SAD admits that therefore the following report may have some minor flaws as it knows the Marshite military effectively and can judge accordingly. In any case, this report, known as them "Evaluation of Steel War Combatants", was completed in due time and released soon after.

Nero-

Level V

The NPA is well trained and in relation to the enemies and allies involved well-equipped. While not entirely special in any one facet, it is competent in most. It should have the ability to repel most enemy attacks but it has neither the numbers or equipment to ensure success in an even engagement. Their doctrine is effective. though the ability of their armored forces to maintain this push against most of their foes is questionable. Their officers are well-trained and competent, a theme throughout the army. M-SAD has difficulty judging the air force as it does not know the exact specifications of the aircraft, but owing to the character of this nation's military, we expect the theme of competence at task to remain true. The low requirements of maintenance for most of their stated aircraft leads M-SAD to believe it would be a fully functional air force. Their pride is with their navy, but as will be a running them during this special analysis, there are notable flaws. It is undermanned. A common mistake is to not take into consideration the war-time ballooning of maintenance personnel when opposing naval forces are considered viable surface fleets. While competent on paper and likely to stay true to this in the long term, the undermanned nature of the navy means that in the opening stages of the war the navy will have a much harder time operating effectively and repairing battle damage in a timely manner. The partisan special forces employed are effective at their jobs, though not any more so than a few of the other likewise themed forces. The overall judgement is that the Nerotysians field a fully capable military force that can defend its land effectively and fields a force projection potential that is high, if hampered off the bat by naval understaffment. Well-graded if not exceptional in both categories.

Alex-

Level VII

The People's Army is inarguably the most well-equipped nation currently involved. Whie it doesn't have the same style of training and similarly high level of combat training afforded to others, the common soldierly is universally well-educated and intelligent. This is a theme throughout the officer corp as well and while the desire to minimize casualties holds back their possible lethality, it fits in well with their chosen doctrine. With a fantastic logistical support base and a good culture, they are extremely effective and a ground war involving them tilts in their favor. Their use of advanced heavy armor as well as long-range Hellion fire gives them a significant advantage over any other stated force in armour and artillery, while their doctrine would allow them to whittle down an aggressive enemy easily. Nations that focus on armored movements against them would find their strategies crushed. Considering the prevalence of this among nations involved, M-SAD believes that TPA is the most effective army yet involved. The air force is also very well equipped and capable, a step-up on some of their compatriots and enemies alike. Their navy suffers from the same problem as most of the others with understaffed back-ends, but it has a higher potential than others. Taken as a whole, Alexandria features the best force projection and army in the listings with arguably the best air force as well.


Akan-

Level IV

The Free republic of Akan features an unusually equipped nation, owing to some ineffective on paper weapons that may or may not be effective. The normal soldierly is well-trained but poorly equipped, with Dragonskin body armor which is one of the most well-known and used armors in the world of NationStates and needs no introduction being special forces only. While their doctrine of encirclement is a fine military strategy, they are simply outgunned to a large degree and share no great advantage natively. Logistically they are considered poor with a far greater percentage of their military combat instead of logistics, which does their cool under fire officer corp no favors and also means a lower percentage of their combat forces are likely to engage in combat effectively for any length of time. The lack of a higher strategic capability beyond localized attacks betrays their doctrine of encirclement terribly. The air force is small but effective and while it is unlikely to play a large role in an offensive, it could perhaps put up a competent defensive effort. The navy is considered likewise effective if not special- it is no greater than those it faces. Same could be said for their special forces, which are well-trained, well-equipped, and in no greater in number than others. However, their focus on direct combat against command and control as well as logistics is a boon. In the end, Akan's military has limited force projection and a good deal of defensive potential, but much of that is currently unrealized.

Yalos

Level VI

This is a tough force to grade. It has very little to no offensive capability and in the air it suffers from a catastrophic inability to engage. On the high seas, its huge fleet of amphibious assault ships will likely remain in dock with little maintenance or work done to make them seaworthy. They cannot invade another nation. Nor can they even attempt to hold the air above an opposing nation and are likely to lose the air over their own nation. They do not feature military forces that are incredibly well equipped and in an open engagement they would be likely to be defeated handily. However, they are not likely to do that. Their military is tuned to fight a powerful insurgency. M-SAD is very, very familiar with such tactics, as the Marshite Militia does much of the same- even if it does so with far superior equipment. Considering the other nations here in general propose to limit casualties and the Yalossian strategy is to conduct a high-intensity insurgency with good tactics and weapons in a land that forbids the effective use of encirclement tactics, fast logistical attacks, or any of the other strategies employed by others listed. This does not even account for the national guard, who are considered relatively ineffective but at two million strong can at least bolster the ranks of the far more effective main army during the guerrilla campaign. As ineffective as it is on the offensive, M-SAD believes no force so far graded would be able to invade and occupy Yalos. For a deeper look- it was graded at a level II offensive force and a level X defensive force in comparison to the others in this report.

The Haven

Level VII

The military forces of the Haven are generally a confusing mish-mash that ends up effective. Its arms and armaments come from multiple sources and it is believed a degree of logistical difficulty should be expected. Having said that, they are trained well enough and effectively, and are armed well enough for the task at hand. Their strategic thinking at the top does them few favors as they throw away lives and against their enemies, namely Yalos and Alexandria, such strategies are fatally foolish. The air force and navy are large and competent formations capable of effective combat and they are fully capable of defending themselves in large part thanks to their clan armies, who while considered generally very ineffective, add just enough bodies to allow their better equipped and trained army to strike at the enemy. In the end, defensively it is considered a potent nation and it has a fully capable force projection capability. In comparison to the nations mentioned, it is strong.
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Name of Nation: The Greater Vakolicci Haven

Military Branches and Roles:
Regular Ground Forces: Vrotan dal Havaern (army of the Haven)
Small Arms Used:
Handguns: Machina Haruspex siap-01 handgun, HKP7
SMG:
VKL-9113 advanced sub-machine gun, AR-24 Machina Haruspex CSG-01
Assault rifles:
HKG-36, VKL-99, Machina Haruspex TAC98 modular weapons system
Shotguns:
Spas-15
Sniper riflee:
VKL-1131 advance anti-personelle long-range weapon
Body Armor Used: Vakolicci balistic body armour
Infantry Support Weapons Used: RPG TA model B (machina haruspex), K-3AGC Gatling gun (Machina Haruspex), short rifle howetzer series model 2 (Machina Haruspex), k1-b HMG (Machina Haruspex, m120 mortre
Anti-Tank/Anti-Vehicle Weapons Used: VKL-96V tank destroyer, Xousg Mdhugi (Quick Strike) Anti Tank Vehicle (Machina Haruspex)
APCs/IFVs Used: Vannad (ferret) light multiroll vehicle (Machina Haruspex), s-12 half track APC (Machina Haruspex), Bradley fighting vehicle, Curaltu-class armoured 8x8,
Tanks Used: Panthero Leo (Yohannes), Earth III (United earthling), Pz.Kpf.W AY2-1B "Panthera Uncia" Medium Battle Tank (Yohannes), CCD-914 'Crusher' main battle tank
Artillery Used: panzerhaubitz 2 armoured hoetzer (Yohannes), Pylg Cdyp MMLS (Machina Haruspex), Tajem HMARS (Machina Haruspex)
Brief Summary of Training and Recruitment:
From the age of 5, Vakolicci schoolchildren are required to undergo some form of military training, in order to be prepared to defend Havenic trade and territorial interests. mMilitary training is taken as an integral part of physical education lessons, and all children are required to attend a military summer camp each year.

It is expected that a Vakolicci should know how to load and clean a rifle by the age of 10, although many can do it earlier. At the age of 18, physically fit indeviduals are placed into the 'Emmergency review list' a list of people who can be called upon in a national emmergency, although this has only been called twice.

When a person joins the military, they undergo an 8-month long 'Advanced training' course, designed to test them in physically demanding environments, such as deserts, arctic climates, and jungles.
Brief Summary of Standard Military Doctrine: The Greater Vakolicci Haven, first and foremost, is a trading nation. Despite its strange culture (including its heavy use of slavery), the Haven wishes, militarily, to be left alone. However, it is often forced to jump into action in order to defend its or its allies teretorial interests.
When the Haven jumps to war, focus is placed on swift, decisive battles, combined with constant air strikes. Enemy cevillians are not considered: the Haven is notable for making very heavy use of chemical and biological weaponry.
Brief Summary of Military Culture: Soldiers are very well-respected in the Haven. At home, most people believe that they live to a very high standard in the battlefield; in actuality, they are known for committing war crimes, ranging from looting to rape and murder of enemy cevillians to canibalism.
Assessment of Officer Corps (Tactical Capabilities): Officers are held to a higher standard than their men. They are expected to keep calm in tough situations, but to act ruthlessly and decisively.
Assessment of Officer Corps (Strategic Capabilities) Due to a very outdated standard of military beliefs, officers have been accused of sacrificing their soldiers far too readily. Despite this, they are praised for keeping a grasp on large battlefronts and conducting operations commendably.
Assessment of Logistical Capabilities: Due to the large force of the Havenic navy, the GVH is capable of massing a capable suply chain to its servicemen.
Personnel: 42,000,000
Combat Personnel: 11,000,000

Air Forces

Fighter Aircraft Used: 'Divine wind' Air Dominence fighter (Myrmadon), Eurofighter typhoon
Strategic Bombers Used: b-2 Spirit, VKLA-12 Disrupter-class nuclear-powered bomber,
Ground Attack Aircraft Used (Incl. Gunships and Attack Helicopters): Ah-64 Apache, f-22 raptor, HAD TE-02A Nywun (Razor) Strike Gunship (Machina Haruspex)
Air Transport Used: c-130 Hercules, HAD HT-02 Ciban Ryiman (Super Hauler) (Machina Haruspex)
Number of Aircraft: 39,000
Personnel: 2.6 million

Naval Forces

Number of Frigates: 72
Number of Destroyers: 312
Number of Cruisers: 110
Number of Aircraft Carriers: 51
Number of Amphibious Assault Ships: 42
Number of Submarines: 312
Personnel: 2.6 million

Paramilitary Groups(Note: This would cover Militias as well as special warrior groups)

Stated Purpose of Paramilitary Group(s):
(type A) to enforce Vakolicci dominence across the world by assassinations and terrorism
(b) To defend a particular clan
Small Arms Used:
(1) VKL-99 Assault rifle,
(B) not standardised
Body Armor Used:
(a) none
(b) Mainly none.
Infantry Support Weapons Used:
(a) K1-B 12.7mm HMG'
(b) not standardised
Anti-Tank/Anti-Vehicle Weapons Used: (a) none
(b) not standardised
Vehicles Used:
(a) see basic military if needed
(b) See basic military if needed
Brief Summary of Training and Recruitment:
(a) Vaktrieiga agents are selected from the elite of Vakolicci special forces, and undergo a further year-long advanced training program.
(b) No formal training, volunteer only
Brief Summary of Standard Doctrine: (A) The Vaktrieiga favour quick, lethal strikes, using electronic warfare to cause confusion in order to 'improve' the number of casualties.
(b) Certain clans wish to expand the territory over which their own clan has influence
Brief Summary of Paramilitary Culture:
(a) The Vaktrieiga are exceedingly secretive. They rarely meet, and never speak with journalists. In the homelands, they are feared.
Are the organizations primarily Offensive or Defensive?:
(a) offensive
(b) Mostly defencive
Are the organizations under a clear Military command, under clear command of the State, or mostly independent?:
(a) The Vaktrieiga is under the command of the Havenic intelligence ministery.
(b) independent
Is there significant civilian support for the Paramilitary groups? no
Personnel:
Vaktrieiga: 41,000
Clan armies, 7 million
Combat Personnel:
Vaktrieiga: 34,000
Clan armies: 4 million

Overall Assessment:

Are the branches of the Military united with a clear command structure for use between branches?: yes
Are Strategic Decisions decided by Military or Civilian leadership?: Military leadership, with oversight from the President and secretary for defence and war
Are the branches more or less united, with open co-operation between the branches?: yes, although both paramilitaries often fight for their own strategy
Are there any enmities between branches?: No, although the Vaktrieiga are distrusted somewhat and Clan armies are hated.
Is the overall Strategic Doctrine Defensive or Offensive?: Defencive, however defence has a tendency to turn into offence very quickly.
Nuclear Option?: of course
How many?: 32,000
Via Submarine?: 7,000
Via Strategic Bomber?: 3,000
Via land-based ICBM?: 17,000
Via land-based TBM?: 3000
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Population: 9.6 billion (to be added to current population of this nation)
Last known defence budget: 82.2 trillion
Last known gdp: $423.2 trillion (nstracker)
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Postby Nerotysia » Sat Aug 02, 2014 2:50 pm

Great, thanks Holy Marsh! Question: how would my assessment change if I were to boost naval personnel to ideal levels?
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Postby Holy Marsh » Sat Aug 02, 2014 3:07 pm

A little. Maybe bumped up to Level VI, not for sure. While you were understaffed and that was a major knock, it isn't as if the naval component of your assessment would be graded so much higher that it would cause a huge shift. Still wouldn't hurt, however.

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Postby Nerotysia » Sat Aug 02, 2014 3:11 pm

Holy Marsh wrote:A little. Maybe bumped up to Level VI, not for sure. While you were understaffed and that was a major knock, it isn't as if the naval component of your assessment would be graded so much higher that it would cause a huge shift. Still wouldn't hurt, however.

Lovely, thanks. I should have the new numbers up tomorrow, if you could reassess in whatever small ways I would greatly appreciate it.

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Postby Nerotysia » Sun Aug 03, 2014 9:48 am

Alright, I've revised my form a bit. It would be very helpful if you could take the changes into account, Holy Marsh. In addition to boosting naval personnel, I also specified what kind of fighter jets I use a bit better.

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