Anarchism

[The New Sea Territory]

I do not believe in a man in the sky and I don't support a group of hypocrites who claim to be anti-government but are pro-war, Social Conservatives and believes Obama is a Kenyan Marxist Islamic Jihadist...
Real objective with your comments .
But what should I expect from a lefty .

There you go. Let me go ahead and explain to you I'm not left wing.

You're a Christian. You believe in god ( a man in the sky). You support the Tea Party (anti-government social conservatives and conspiracy theorists).

Then, obviously having the tribal in group/out group mentality, you label me a leftist for disagreeing with you.

[The New Sea Territory]

But it is. The State provides public law. Therefore, it is a service of the state.

Yeah, get down with that economic reductionism. Law is a "service" in the same way morality is: it's not. The government legislates. It does not "provide".

Morality is not the issue here, but it does not exist anyway so a conversation over it is meaningless.

The government [verb] law. Whatever verb you put there, the government is somehow making law where you claim law isn't, so I think providing would fit well there. "Legislate" is a specific manner of providing law.

[Liberaxia]

Yeah, get down with that economic reductionism. Law is a "service" in the same way morality is: it's not. The government legislates. It does not "provide".

Morality is not the issue here, but it does not exist anyway so a conversation over it is meaningless.

The government [verb] law. Whatever verb you put there, the government is somehow making law where you claim law isn't, so I think providing would fit well there. "Legislate" is a specific manner of providing law.

Yes, it makes law, but it is not providing it like a commodity or a service. Instead, it is a function.

[The New Sea Territory]

A shitty ideology that is usually followed by rebellious teenagers and it would not work in reality. I can only see one good thing about anarchism and that would be the abolition of age restrictions.

First, anarchism is a myriad of ideologies.

Secondly, rebellious teens follow anarcho-punk sensationalism. Do not use that to discredit Proudhon, Kropotkin, Rothbard and Chomsky, all of which are definitely above 40.

It has worked in reality. Trying to say it didn't is almost as blatant a disregard for reality as religion is.

What about workplace democracy, legitimate free speech, free association, etc?

[New Acardia]

There you go. Let me go ahead and explain to you I'm not left wing.
You're a Christian. You believe in god ( a man in the sky). You support the Tea Party (anti-government social conservatives and conspiracy
Then, obviously having the tribal in group/out group mentality, you label me a leftist for disagreeing with you.

Than what are you ?
Because what your post on this thread say is that you are a lefty.

[The New Sea Territory]

Morality is not the issue here, but it does not exist anyway so a conversation over it is meaningless.

The government [verb] law. Whatever verb you put there, the government is somehow making law where you claim law isn't, so I think providing would fit well there. "Legislate" is a specific manner of providing law.

Yes, it makes law, but it is not providing it like a commodity or a service. Instead, it is a function.

I don't give a fuck what you call it, the state is providing laws. It is. You can rationalize it however you'd like, that is not the issue here. The issue here is you are trying to say that the state doesn't provide laws. Ok....where do laws come from?

And it is like a commodity or service. Just like everything else the state provides. Public services.

[The New Sea Territory]

Than what are you ?
Because what your post on this thread say is that you are a lefty.

What am I? A Voluntaryist. Completely devoid of left-right paradigms.

And there you go, AGAIN. Anyone who speaks against you is a "lefty", as if "lefty" is a bad word or something.

[New Acardia]

Than what are you ?
Because what your post on this thread say is that you are a lefty.

What am I? A Voluntaryist. Completely devoid of left-right paradigms.

And there you go, AGAIN. Anyone who speaks against you is a "lefty", as if "lefty" is a bad word or something.

What is a Voluntaryist ?
Also I have a another question .
Do you work ?

[Conglomerate of Iron]

Than what are you ?
Because what your post on this thread say is that you are a lefty.

What am I? A Voluntaryist. Completely devoid of left-right paradigms.

And there you go, AGAIN. Anyone who speaks against you is a "lefty", as if "lefty" is a bad word or something.

Its ok New Sea, plebes do not understand beauty of voluntaryism.... they shall sadly live in the dark for many years before the truth is revealed to their eyes!!!!

[New Acardia]

What am I? A Voluntaryist. Completely devoid of left-right paradigms.

And there you go, AGAIN. Anyone who speaks against you is a "lefty", as if "lefty" is a bad word or something.

Its ok New Sea, plebes do not understand beauty of voluntaryism.... they shall sadly live in the dark for many years before the truth is revealed to their eyes!!!!

The plebes ?
Are we leftists Aristocrats now .

[Conglomerate of Iron]

Its ok New Sea, plebes do not understand beauty of voluntaryism.... they shall sadly live in the dark for many years before the truth is revealed to their eyes!!!!

The plebes ?
Are we leftists Aristocrats now .

Leftist? Lol. I am an anarcho capitalist fool! Actually study political systems. Voluntaryism is not a "left" idea. It is an idea based upon liberty. The left and the right are dated concepts. The struggle is between liberty and tyranny.

[Soselo]

Anarchism is bollocks.

Indeed. Anarchism is not only completely undesirable, it doesn't work at all. Most humans have the desire for some sort of structure to lead, which is a state.

Except for the barbarians and hill cultures. People have been coerced into feeling helpless without leadership. Life in the hills has always been better. Search for Zomia.

[The New Sea Territory]

What am I? A Voluntaryist. Completely devoid of left-right paradigms.

And there you go, AGAIN. Anyone who speaks against you is a "lefty", as if "lefty" is a bad word or something.

What is a Voluntaryist ?
Also I have a another question .
Do you work ?

Do I work? I find working or not working to have nothing to do with my views on voluntary association of human beings, but yes, I do. Just started recently.

[The New Sea Territory]

Its ok New Sea, plebes do not understand beauty of voluntaryism.... they shall sadly live in the dark for many years before the truth is revealed to their eyes!!!!

The plebes ?
Are we leftists Aristocrats now .

Ok, Bill O'Reilly, listen up. There is so much more outside American Politics...ok? Let me illustrate it for you.

Here's The Political Compass!

Your typical left-right paradigm is very, very wrong. Just flat wrong. Like, wronger than gay repair therapy.

Also, a voluntaryist cannot be put on that spectrum above, as it advocates for a stateless society where people are allowed to voluntarily associate based on their socioeconomic preference. Voluntaryism, Anarchism without Adjectives and Pan-Anarchism are my ideologies.

Some links for you:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voluntaryism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchism_ ... adjectives
My Thoughts on Pan-Anarchism

[The New Sea Territory]

What am I? A Voluntaryist. Completely devoid of left-right paradigms.

And there you go, AGAIN. Anyone who speaks against you is a "lefty", as if "lefty" is a bad word or something.

Its ok New Sea, plebes do not understand beauty of voluntaryism.... they shall sadly live in the dark for many years before the truth is revealed to their eyes!!!!

Yep. I've tried to explain it to Tea Partiers. They brush it off as leftism. As if they support capitalism!

[Distruzio]

Do laws stop murderers from murdering?

quite often yes.

Come on Socio, you know better than that. Fear of "the law" does not stop murderers from murdering.

[Sociobiology]

quite often yes.

Come on Socio, you know better than that. Fear of "the law" does not stop murderers from murdering.

sure it does, it does not stop impulse murder, but it stops planned, opportunistic, or incidental murder all the time.
one of the ways you can tell is it is no longer common to duel people to the death, or kill people for not showing you the proper respect.

[Distruzio]

Come on Socio, you know better than that. Fear of "the law" does not stop murderers from murdering.

sure it does, it does not stop impulse murder, but it stops planned, opportunistic, or incidental murder all the time.
one of the ways you can tell is it is no longer common to duel people to the death, or kill people for not showing you the proper respect.

I think you're confusing "killing" for "murder."

[Distruzio]

Morality is not the issue here, but it does not exist anyway so a conversation over it is meaningless.

The government [verb] law. Whatever verb you put there, the government is somehow making law where you claim law isn't, so I think providing would fit well there. "Legislate" is a specific manner of providing law.

Yes, it makes law, but it is not providing it like a commodity or a service. Instead, it is a function.

Jesus, Lib. Really?

[Sociobiology]

sure it does, it does not stop impulse murder, but it stops planned, opportunistic, or incidental murder all the time.
one of the ways you can tell is it is no longer common to duel people to the death, or kill people for not showing you the proper respect.

I think you're confusing "killing" for "murder."

how?
laws do stop murder, redefining types of killing as murder is one of the main ways. after all without law it can't be murder.

[Distruzio]

I think you're confusing "killing" for "murder."

how?
laws do stop murder, redefining types of killing as murder is one of the main ways. after all without law it can't be murder.

Indeed. Quite true. And since impulse murder is, indeed, murder, law does not stop murder. It makes planned, opportunistic, and incidental murder less prevalent, but in no way eliminates or stops murder. If it did, "murder" would not have to be redefined and revised to include other types of killing.

[Casita]

I am an Anarcho-Cthulhuist. Cthulhu is how anarchism shall be carried out. After all, I have the Necronomicon.

Hahahahahahah! I have Ars Goetia. Which one gives me more anarcho powers?

[Liberaxia]

Yes, it makes law, but it is not providing it like a commodity or a service. Instead, it is a function.

Jesus, Lib. Really?

Yes. Legislation, trying people for crimes, and enforcement are most emphatically not services.

[Sociobiology]

how?
laws do stop murder, redefining types of killing as murder is one of the main ways. after all without law it can't be murder.

Indeed. Quite true. And since impulse murder is, indeed, murder, law does not stop murder. It makes planned, opportunistic, and incidental murder less prevalent, but in no way eliminates or stops murder. If it did, "murder" would not have to be redefined and revised to include other types of killing.

you confuse "stops murder" for "stops ALL murder", a single cop may stop murder by catching a would be murderer.
murder is a verb and a noun.

[Ordysius]

Seasteading is a thing similar to that.

Pretty much little laboratories of anarchies and microstates.

not really since they completely dependent on states for their supplies, and have populations below dunbar's number.

They're dependent, but if I'm not mistaken, aren't under any nation's jurisdiction.

I'm sure that the size of a seastead can be bigger than Dunbar's number, too.