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[Benshir]

Yep, pretty much that's what it is.

You make a convincing case. I shall instead recommend it to my roommate.

[Bralia]

All countries are built on some semblance of collectivism. That's what makes her beliefs so repulsive.

Dude, spare me to keep on talking about her and the works of the Rand Institute... they're a bunch of morons. That's what all of those "intellectuals" in that institute are. They think that the U.S. would be better off being a capitalist anarchy.

I needed to know who was the author herself. What kind of vapid, drug addiction did she have when she came up with those books.

Anybody with a brain should know that an anarcho-capitalist society is just flat out wrong on so many levels. *nods*

All countries are built on some semblance of collectivism. That's what makes her beliefs so repulsive.

So basically it's ammunition for edgy libertarians who don't really know what statecraft's about?

I see that Soldati has already summed that answer to that splendidly.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Yep, pretty much that's what it is.

You make a convincing case. I shall instead recommend it to my roommate.

You evil, evil person

I approve of this only if you really spite your roommate.

[Hurdegaryp]

So basically it's ammunition for edgy libertarians who don't really know what statecraft's about?

Yep, pretty much that's what it is. Rand's utopia was, literally - and I am not shitting you - a place where the rich would be rich and the poor would be poor and somehow the old didn't deserve anything and children be put in child labor.

Libertarianism is a gateway ideology for the return of fascism or stalinism at best.

[Benshir]

You evil, evil person

I approve of this only if you really spite your roommate.

Nope. She's a sweetheart and my little Vietnamese kitchen wonderbaby.

[Immoren]

To give you an example: her speech in Atlas Shrugged, where her idea of "objectivism" is clearly congealed through the voice of John Galt, is 90 pages long in hardback copy. YES I COUNTED THEM! It was just SO ridiculously long and she goes on and on and on and on and on and on about how "collectivism is evil, doing whatever the fuck you want without regarding others is the maximum good". And all of this for ONE QUESTION "Who are you?".

For some reason reading your post reminded me of this scene.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Yep, pretty much that's what it is. Rand's utopia was, literally - and I am not shitting you - a place where the rich would be rich and the poor would be poor and somehow the old didn't deserve anything and children be put in child labor.

Libertarianism is a gateway ideology for the return of fascism or stalinism at best.

Well, I wouldn't say Libertarians; Libertarianism has a more extensive library for me to make any sort of judgement on it.

Rand's arguments are basically an Oprah-fied version of Nietszche. She was the first Oprah before Oprah became a thing, being the creator of her personality cult called "Objectivism" and all.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

You evil, evil person

I approve of this only if you really spite your roommate.

Nope. She's a sweetheart and my little Vietnamese kitchen wonderbaby.

Then I do not approve of this

The probability your roommate will hate your ass after she's done reading it are very high

[Soldati Senza Confini]

To give you an example: her speech in Atlas Shrugged, where her idea of "objectivism" is clearly congealed through the voice of John Galt, is 90 pages long in hardback copy. YES I COUNTED THEM! It was just SO ridiculously long and she goes on and on and on and on and on and on about how "collectivism is evil, doing whatever the fuck you want without regarding others is the maximum good". And all of this for ONE QUESTION "Who are you?".

For some reason reading your post reminded me of this scene.

Yes, we all need some sci-fi in our lives. Babylon 5 fits the bill nicely

[Benshir]

Then I do not approve of this

The probability your roommate will hate your ass after she's done reading it are very high

Jesus Lito you're making Ayn Rand's stuff sound like Casus Belli.

[Immoren]

For some reason reading your post reminded me of this scene.

Yes, we all need some sci-fi in our lives. Babylon 5 fits the bill nicely

Babylon 5:Always relevant...
...Although I should finish the series.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Then I do not approve of this

The probability your roommate will hate your ass after she's done reading it are very high

Jesus Lito you're making Ayn Rand's stuff sound like Casus Belli.

I am just warning you before hand that this stuff is dangerous. Reading it will drop your IQ by 20 points and it will make you a dangerous objectivist by the end you finish with both books. Thus, my only warning is proceed at your own risk. I am not liable for you all's mental well-being at this point

[Scomagia]

Hallo TET! I'm having an uncomfortably slow start this morning and I'm seriously considering going back to bed.

[Hurdegaryp]

Jesus Lito you're making Ayn Rand's stuff sound like Casus Belli.

I am just warning you before hand that this stuff is dangerous. Reading it will drop your IQ by 20 points and it will make you a dangerous objectivist by the end you finish with both books. Thus, my only warning is proceed at your own risk. I am not liable for you all's mental well-being at this point

So you would say that it is even more damaging than NationStates General?

[Soldati Senza Confini]

I am just warning you before hand that this stuff is dangerous. Reading it will drop your IQ by 20 points and it will make you a dangerous objectivist by the end you finish with both books. Thus, my only warning is proceed at your own risk. I am not liable for you all's mental well-being at this point

So you would say that it is even more damaging than NationStates General?

Sadly, I believe so.

At least, while in NSG, you can at least argue the point. You can't argue with a corpse or with a book even.

[Bralia]

Hallo TET! I'm having an uncomfortably slow start this morning and I'm seriously considering going back to bed.

Go back to bed. Ayn Rand is being discussed. I'll wake you when it's all over.

[Benshir]

So a gym buddy decides to be a darling and donate his kettlebell that he's not using anymore.

Problem: It's down in the lobby, and it's 60 motherf***ing kilograms. FFS it's heavier than me, and this building doesn't have an elevator. And I'm on the 8th floor. Jumping Jesus idk about this guys.

[Scomagia]

Hallo TET! I'm having an uncomfortably slow start this morning and I'm seriously considering going back to bed.

Go back to bed. Ayn Rand is being discussed. I'll wake you when it's all over.

Well I could.....nah better stay up. Here's the deal, I'll get in the shower and you guys can wrap up the Rand chat before I come back. That should give you at least a half an hour. Deal?

[Soldati Senza Confini]

So a gym buddy decides to be a darling and donate his kettlebell that he's not using anymore.

Problem: It's down in the lobby, and it's 60 motherf***ing kilograms. FFS it's heavier than me, and this building doesn't have an elevator. And I'm on the 8th floor. Jumping Jesus idk about this guys.

Ask your roommate to help.

[Luxew]

Where did this sudden shoulder pain come from? It doesn't help the babysitting nor the shopping later this week.
Hi TET.

[Bralia]

Go back to bed. Ayn Rand is being discussed. I'll wake you when it's all over.

Well I could.....nah better stay up. Here's the deal, I'll get in the shower and you guys can wrap up the Rand chat before I come back. That should give you at least a half an hour. Deal?

Just be careful when you step back into TET. You never know when a random insane conversation could pop up.

[Scomagia]

Well I could.....nah better stay up. Here's the deal, I'll get in the shower and you guys can wrap up the Rand chat before I come back. That should give you at least a half an hour. Deal?

Just be careful when you step back into TET. You never know when a random insane conversation could pop up.

Alright. Sexy Jesus shall return all wet, sexy, and clean.

[Benshir]

Ask your roommate to help.

Good idea. Just after she finishes cooking dinner. Then I'll introduce her to Fountainhead.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Ask your roommate to help.

Good idea. Just after she finishes cooking dinner. Then I'll introduce her to Fountainhead.

Persistent, aren't we?

[Threayce]

If we're still shitting on Ayn Rand, I read about twenty pages of one of her books (can't remember which one. Had a light bulb on the cover).

It was most likely the shitiest work of political literature I have ever read in my entire life.