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Postby New Israel and Pan-America » Fri Jun 20, 2014 7:12 pm

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New Israel and Pan-America wrote:We should rename it the 'Christian Disease Control' instead, and make some reforms. In my region we have a Christian Disease Control, it works great. It stopped the red plague in Chemung. It's on our RP forum.

Wait, this is RP right? Or is this real?! :bow:

I think we've affirmed, at this point, that you're satirical. No need to drag it out.


I am kidding. Not really satirical.

I do think they should shut the CDC down, though.
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Postby The Orson Empire » Fri Jun 20, 2014 7:12 pm

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The Orson Empire wrote:The U.S. never had a Christian-led government. We have something called freedom of religion.

Anyway, enough with this damn threadjack.


The USA is a Christian nation, what are you talking about? The First Amendment definition of religion is 'denomination of Christianity'.

The second part of your post is one of the stupidest things I have ever heard.

No, the U.S. is not a Christian nation, and it is not a theocracy. And the Constitution guarantees freedom of religion, meaning all religions, not just Christianity.

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Postby Greed and Death » Fri Jun 20, 2014 7:12 pm

Distruzio wrote:
greed and death wrote:Do let us know when they turn you back.
OR if you do get in let us know if they let you leave.


Bah. Don't be sensationalist. It's business as usual around here.

The pictures from Atalanta beg to differ.
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Postby Blazedtown » Fri Jun 20, 2014 7:13 pm

New Israel and Pan-America wrote:
Thafoo wrote:I think we've affirmed, at this point, that you're satirical. No need to drag it out.


I am kidding. Not really satirical.

I do think they should shut the CDC down, though.


Stop trying, you already gave yourself up.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Fri Jun 20, 2014 7:13 pm

New Israel and Pan-America wrote:
Geilinor wrote:


Why?!


God did it.

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Postby Viritica » Fri Jun 20, 2014 7:13 pm

New Israel and Pan-America wrote:
The Orson Empire wrote:The U.S. never had a Christian-led government. We have something called freedom of religion.

Anyway, enough with this damn threadjack.


The USA is a Christian nation, what are you talking about? The First Amendment definition of religion is 'denomination of Christianity'.

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Postby Distruzio » Fri Jun 20, 2014 7:15 pm

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I live nearby (as in VERY closely). It ain't that bad.

84 is still quite a lot. At least in wasn't in Moscow it would be even worse.


They were exposed. They weren't infected.
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Postby New Israel and Pan-America » Fri Jun 20, 2014 7:18 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
New Israel and Pan-America wrote:
Why?!


God did it.

Why?
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Postby Benuty » Fri Jun 20, 2014 7:19 pm

Distruzio wrote:
Benuty wrote:84 is still quite a lot. At least in wasn't in Moscow it would be even worse.


They were exposed. They weren't infected.

So which is it were all of them exposed or none of them infected?
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Fri Jun 20, 2014 7:19 pm

greed and death wrote:
Distruzio wrote:
Bah. Don't be sensationalist. It's business as usual around here.

The pictures from Atalanta beg to differ.
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Didn't know that Atlanta was in West Africa, or that anthrax was the same thing as Ebola.

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Postby Blazedtown » Fri Jun 20, 2014 7:20 pm

New Israel and Pan-America wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
God did it.

Why?


Who are you to question God's will?
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Postby Thafoo » Fri Jun 20, 2014 7:20 pm

New Israel and Pan-America wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
God did it.

Why?

Because God's a mentally disturbed sociopath with a history of unprovoked violence towards large populations.

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Postby New Israel and Pan-America » Fri Jun 20, 2014 7:20 pm

Blazedtown wrote:
New Israel and Pan-America wrote:
I am kidding. Not really satirical.

I do think they should shut the CDC down, though.


Stop trying, you already gave yourself up.


Again, I'm just a bored summerfriend. I'm actually a Christian and its late and I'm bored. So I made a joke.

I actually do think the CDC needs to get shut down. At least haul it out of Atlanta! Who would keep DISEASES in a major population center? WHY? Are you serious?
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Postby Distruzio » Fri Jun 20, 2014 7:20 pm

greed and death wrote:
Distruzio wrote:
Bah. Don't be sensationalist. It's business as usual around here.

The pictures from Atalanta beg to differ.
Image


Nah. I live less than 10 minutes away. It's all good baby.

HazMat Emergency Responders have to treat each potential outbreak as though it is an actual outbreak.
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Postby Geilinor » Fri Jun 20, 2014 7:21 pm

New Israel and Pan-America wrote:
Blazedtown wrote:
Stop trying, you already gave yourself up.


Again, I'm just a bored summerfriend. I'm actually a Christian and its late and I'm bored. So I made a joke.

I actually do think the CDC needs to get shut down. At least haul it out of Atlanta! Who would keep DISEASES in a major population center? WHY? Are you serious?

Anthrax won't spread among the populace. As far as we know, nobody was infected.
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Postby Distruzio » Fri Jun 20, 2014 7:21 pm

Benuty wrote:
Distruzio wrote:
They were exposed. They weren't infected.

So which is it were all of them exposed or none of them infected?


The way local news is reporting it, they were each exposed to live, but frozen, bacterium. None show any signs of infection, however.
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Postby Draica » Fri Jun 20, 2014 7:22 pm

Blazedtown wrote:
New Israel and Pan-America wrote:Why?


Who are you to question God's will?


Aaaah! Stop threadjacking and get back on topic, the insane crazy liberal hippies on this website make me cringe. This is about an Anthrax breach, not God. I bet if this was talking about two cats loving eachother you people would bring God into it.


Just stay on topic!
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Postby Thafoo » Fri Jun 20, 2014 7:23 pm

New Israel and Pan-America wrote:
Blazedtown wrote:
Stop trying, you already gave yourself up.


Again, I'm just a bored summerfriend. I'm actually a Christian and its late and I'm bored. So I made a joke.

I actually do think the CDC needs to get shut down. At least haul it out of Atlanta! Who would keep DISEASES in a major population center? WHY? Are you serious?

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Postby Greed and Death » Fri Jun 20, 2014 7:23 pm

Distruzio wrote:
greed and death wrote:The pictures from Atalanta beg to differ.
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Nah. I live less than 10 minutes away. It's all good baby.

HazMat Emergency Responders have to treat each potential outbreak as though it is an actual outbreak.

But what about these guys setting up a perimeter ?
http://www.characterink.com/wp-content/ ... 1920px.jpg

More training ?
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Postby Benuty » Fri Jun 20, 2014 7:23 pm

Draica wrote:
Blazedtown wrote:
Who are you to question God's will?


Aaaah! Stop threadjacking and get back on topic, the insane crazy liberal hippies on this website make me cringe. This is about an Anthrax breach, not God. I bet if this was talking about two cats loving eachother you people would bring God into it.


Just stay on topic!

Oh boy.
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Postby Riiser-Larsen » Fri Jun 20, 2014 7:24 pm

Benuty wrote:
An anthrax scare is the latest in a string of safety and security lapses at the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the federal agency charged with preventing the spread of infectious diseases.

Roughly 84 workers at CDC’s Atlanta headquarters may have been exposed to the deadly bacterium, Bacillus anthracis, after a breach at the agency’s Bioterrorism Rapid Response and Advanced Technology Laboratory, the agency confirmed today. The number of workers being monitored for anthrax was revised from 75 when the lab breach was announced Thursday.

“We are devastated. It is unacceptable. This is what we do best,” Paul Mecham of CDC’s Environment Health and Safety Compliance Office told ABC News. “Our people are our number one resource. We are going to find out what went wrong and we are going to fix it.”

CDC Workers Potentially Exposed to Anthrax-Causing Bacteria

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Were the 2001 Anthrax Attacks Preventable?

At least three different incidents between 2007 and 2012 also called into question the CDC’s laboratory safety and security systems, which are designed to keep dangerous pathogens like smallpox, monkey pox and SARS from escaping into the general population.

No illnesses were reported in connection with the incidents, all three of which involved malfunctioning airflow and ventilation systems.

The possession, use and transfer of dangerous biological select agents and toxins, including Bacillus anthracis, are overseen by the Federal Select Agent Program, which is operated by CDC in conjunction with agents from the U.S. Department of Agriculture.

The program, which essentially allows CDC to conduct self-inspections, was called into question in 2008, when a door to a CDC lab housing Coxiella Burnetii was found to be sealed with duct tape after a ventilation system malfunction.

"Laboratory safety is not an area where you want to have this much self-policing," said ABC News’ chief health and medical editor Dr. Richard Besser, who ran the part of CDC that included the Select Agent Program between 2005 and 2009. "There is clearly an appearance of conflict of interest in having the inspection program at CDC given the number of laboratories housed within the agency. This has been a long-standing problem.”

Calls to the CDC regarding their laboratory safety procedures and oversight were not immediately returned.

The 84 workers involved in the anthrax scare have been offered antibiotics and vaccination, CDC officials said, adding that at least 54 of the workers have been examined and 27 have been vaccinated. So far none have shown signs of illness, but symptoms can take two months to appear, according to the agency,

Left untreated, the inhaled form of anthrax can be deadly in 85 percent of cases, according to the CDC. Even with treatment the fatality rate is as high as 45 percent.

Anthrax is not contagious and the general public is not at risk, CDC officials said.

ABC News' Dr. Richard Besser and Linzie Janis contributed to this story.


Source: http://abcnews.go.com/Health/anthrax-sc ... d=24234045

Opinion: Given the more recent leaks I am surprised it will probably take something this big for them to perform some well needed changing in protocol and security. Hopefully these people will be treated effectively and in a timely manner. On that note hopefully they managed to get all those exposed and have not missed out on any people. Either way, what say you oh unleavened and leavened masses of NSG?

If you read the NYT article on it, it states that there was simply an issue with the growth time on the cultures for the Anthrax. The virologists found that the samples did not grow, and shipped several of them out, only to find out several days later that the colonies had sprouted up on the dishes they still retained. That's not a security issue, it's not like someone snuck the Anthrax out, it was a minor mistake. There will probably be some slight changes in protocol, and most likely some enhancements at the labs the samples were shipped to.
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Postby Thafoo » Fri Jun 20, 2014 7:24 pm

Draica wrote:
Blazedtown wrote:
Who are you to question God's will?


Aaaah! Stop threadjacking and get back on topic, the insane crazy liberal hippies on this website make me cringe. This is about an Anthrax breach, not God. I bet if this was talking about two cats loving eachother you people would bring God into it.


Just stay on topic!

it's funny because Blazedtown is most certainly not someone who comes to mind when I think the word "liberal"

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Postby Blazedtown » Fri Jun 20, 2014 7:25 pm

Draica wrote:
Blazedtown wrote:
Who are you to question God's will?


Aaaah! Stop threadjacking and get back on topic, the insane crazy liberal hippies on this website make me cringe. This is about an Anthrax breach, not God. I bet if this was talking about two cats loving eachother you people would bring God into it.


Just stay on topic!


That's because two cats together is homofeline behavior and is a crime against god.
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Postby Geilinor » Fri Jun 20, 2014 7:25 pm

Thafoo wrote:
Draica wrote:
Aaaah! Stop threadjacking and get back on topic, the insane crazy liberal hippies on this website make me cringe. This is about an Anthrax breach, not God. I bet if this was talking about two cats loving eachother you people would bring God into it.


Just stay on topic!

it's funny because Blazedtown is most certainly not someone who comes to mind when I think the word "liberal"

Nor a hippy.
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Postby Riiser-Larsen » Fri Jun 20, 2014 7:25 pm

Distruzio wrote:
Benuty wrote:So which is it were all of them exposed or none of them infected?


The way local news is reporting it, they were each exposed to live, but frozen, bacterium. None show any signs of infection, however.

Not yet, but Anthrax can take some time to show its symptoms. They will be under quarantine for weeks if not months.
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Thafoo wrote:So I guess leaving a negative environmental footprint now makes you a killer?

This just in: all cows are Hitlers. McDonald's releases the Heilburger.

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