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Great Astyrian War (OOC/Planning - Closed to region)

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Great Astyrian War (OOC/Planning - Closed to region)

Postby Neu Engollon » Sun Jun 01, 2014 12:07 pm

This is the OOC Planning thread for The Great Astyrian War (ca. 1920's) which engulfed the whole region in the early 20th Century. It is closed to those in Astyria and the Astyrian Probation regions only. The events will be confined to Astyria and their colonies.




The following is a WIP:

ALLIANCES


NORTHERN POWERS:
NOUVEL ECOSSE
- (Colonial troops: PLATTEISEN ADLER)
GLISANDIA
- (Colonial troops: ROMBERG)
BLACKHELM CONFEDERACY
RIYSA
- (Colonial troops: AL-RAHA)
NOORDENSTAAT
ANDAMONIA

WESTERN POWERS:
TERRE DES GAULES
- (Colonial troops: KAMALBIA, COTE DCUIVRE, DACHINE, PRUDENESIA)
- (Volunteer troops: AQUITAYNE, various pilots and soldiers in Foreign Legion)
KELONNA
- (Colonial troops: THE COLIAN ALLIANCE)
YELLOW STAR REPUBLIC

GAULIC LEAGUE OF ASTYRIAN NATIONS:
HAGUENAU
- (Colonies ca. 1920: TERRA AZURE)
TERRE DES GAULES
- (Colonies ca. 1920: KAMALBIA, COTE DCUIVRE, PRUDENESIA)

VIZO-JARO ALLIANCE
VIZION
JARRIDIA

NEUTRALS (At start of conflict):
NEU ENGOLLON
THE ERLENIC UNION (Woodstead)
SYMPHONIA
AQUITAYNE
EURALON (The-Third-Panzermmee)
GHAWKINS
DANGISH EMPIRE (Dungeyland)
ARIMATHEA
TRELLIN
CADENZA (Khade)
FALKASIA
AURORA CONFEDERACY
AGRINCOURT
SCOTTOPIAN ISLES
AURELIA (Gaveria)
COSTA DE OURO
STRETTA
EARENT
NIKOLIA
FHIONGAIR
SMERTOLINA
LONDSDALE
SHIN YAMAICHI
ZITRU
MESOLAND
SERAPHIC EMPIRE
BHORMAKARO
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ORBATS

Postby Neu Engollon » Sun Jun 01, 2014 12:08 pm

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EQUIPMENT

Postby Neu Engollon » Sun Jun 01, 2014 12:08 pm

WESTERN POWERS

L'ARMÉE DE GAULOIS Ca. 1920

Infantry
Helmet: Poilu helmet
Pistol: Star 14
Rifle: Berthier Carbine
Rifle 2: Berthier Rifle
Sniper Rifle: Remington Rolling Block, Geweil 16 (Neu Engollian)
Bayonet: Model 1892 Berthier bayonet
Grenade: F1
Other infantry weapons: P4 Flamethrowers
Sub Machine Gun: Chauchat RSC 1918
Light Machine Gun: Chauchat LMG
Machine Gun: Hotchkiss 1914 MMG
Mortars: 58mm Type 2

Vehicles
Light Tank: The Renault FT
Super Tank: Char 2C

Aircraft
Fighter Plane: Nieuport 29
Multi Role (scout/recon/fighter) plane: SPAD S20
Bomber: Farman F50


YELLOSIAN KONUNGUR'S ROYAL ARMY (KRA) at 1920

Infantry
Helmet: Some Brodie helmets issued, head gear was field or fur cap usually
Pistol: Nagant M1895
Rifle: Mosin Nagant
Sniper Rifle: Berdan II
Bayonet: M91 bayonet
Grenade: M1914
Other infantry weapons: Shashka sword
Machine Gun: Chauchat LMG
Mortars: 9cm GR

Vehicles
Light Tank: Gaul Renault FT
Armored Car: Putilov

Aircraft
Fighter Plane: Hjorafir S16
Fighter Plane 2: Hrossagaukur
Multi Role (scout/recon/fighter) plane: Hjorafir YMI
Bomber: Hjorafir Ilya 5




NORTHERN POWERS

GLISANDIAN ROYAL ARMY Ca. 1920

Infantry
Helmet: Picklehaube
Pistol: GSKAB (Luger)
Rifle: GMOND
Sniper Rifle: Geweil 16 w/ Mauser scope (modified NEG 1916)
Bayonet: GMond Spade bayonet
Grenade: GBB
Other infantry weapons: push dagger
Machine Gun: GSB
Sub Machine Gun: GLB submachine gun
Mortars: Various Minenwerfer

Vehicles
Light Tank: GLK 8
Light Tank 2: GLK 2

Aircraft
Fighter Plane: GC Aviatik
Fighter Plane 2: GC2
Multi Role (scout/recon/fighter) plane: GC1
Bomber: Gotha GV


ERMF, 1920 Composition
Infantry

Vehicles
Licht Panzer FT
Haupt-Schlacht Panzer
Festung Panzer (Limited)
Feld-Artillerie Panzer

Aircraft
Fighter Aircraft
Jagdflugzeug D.VIII
Boden-Unterstützung Flugzeug
Bomber Aicraft
Linke-Hofmann R.II
AEG R.I
Recon Aircraft
LVG C.VI

Naval Vessels
Aircraft Carriers
Furious Class - 1
Pegasus Class - 3
Destroyers
Adrincourt Class - 18
Larken Class - 25
Oregon Class - 30
Crusiers
Feijencord Class - 15
Submarines
Vesta Class - 23
Lothlorien Class - 37
Limsriek Class - 8


NEUTRAL POWERS

Neu Engollon Defense Forces(NEDF) ca. 1920

Infantry
Helmet: NEHT Mk 1, similar to the Gaulic poilu helmet, but with an elongated coal scuttle in the back, like the later German stahlhelm.
Pistol: NEPL1 (Luger), Various other surplus stocks (British, French, American)
Rifle: NEG 1916 (Hybrid based on the best features of the Mauser Gewehr 98 and Springfield M1903 rifles)
Sniper Rifle: Geweil 16 w/ Mauser scope (modified NEG 1916)
Bayonet: NEK (Komis) Mark I, also serves as a standard field kit knife
Grenade: NEGRT (Granato)
Other infantry weapons: NEPS (Peschal) Entrenching tool used as a battle ax in close quarters combat
Machine Gun: NEMG (Vickers)
Mortars: Various
Flamethrower: NEFMR

Vehicles
Light Tank: NEFT
Light Tank 2: NE ST-21 (German LK II via the Swedish Strv M/21)

Aircraft
Fighter Plane: NEF FKT1
Fighter Plane 2: NEF SPB1
Multi Role (scout/recon/fighter) plane: NEF FKM2
Bomber: NEF CAB2


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Postby GHawkins » Mon Jun 02, 2014 6:42 am

Actually, at the start of the conflict GHawkins is neutral as well. They only get involved after the downing of an airship of theirs, which I doubt is right at the start.

In the timeframe GAW1 happens, at the start, GH will have a similar attitude as the US had during world war I; "Not our damn business".

So, if you for now could move me to neutral, even though GH would sympathise with the entente, they'd not openly commit until the point they are drawn in.

*edit: Also, if you could change the name to Republic of GHawkins or just GHawkins, I'd be grateful.
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Postby Neu Engollon » Mon Jun 02, 2014 7:42 am

GHawkins wrote:Actually, at the start of the conflict GHawkins is neutral as well. They only get involved after the downing of an airship of theirs, which I doubt is right at the start.

In the timeframe GAW1 happens, at the start, GH will have a similar attitude as the US had during world war I; "Not our damn business".

So, if you for now could move me to neutral, even though GH would sympathise with the entente, they'd not openly commit until the point they are drawn in.

*edit: Also, if you could change the name to Republic of GHawkins or just GHawkins, I'd be grateful.


Name edited.
Here's what I'm running up against is the time line. Almost everyone is a non-belligerent or neutral at the start of this conflict and very few want to jump right in at the start. (Not quite a WWI style accurate scenario, but it works for our IC politics.)
I'm debating listing everyone under the side they end up on by the end of the conflict, rather than how they start, as that would more accurately reflect what we're trying to establish for sides, logistics, orbats, etc. I would just fill in the exact date entered into the conflict later (ie June 2, 1922), as we figured that out. Otherwise, I will be doing a lot of editing of that OP just to keep up week to week. How does that sound?
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Postby Neu Engollon » Mon Jun 02, 2014 8:50 am

Also, I really need some feedback from some of you on the status of your puppets, colonies, etc. during the early 1920's. Were they a colony, independent, owned by someone else?
Looks like the popular choice for a start of hostilities will be 1921.
Honestly, we're not going to wait for everyone to get an Orbat together as that will take forever, but we are still a few days from launch and I'd like to at least figure out more canon before then.
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Postby Trellin » Mon Jun 02, 2014 9:06 am

Trellin, with its protectorates Kur'zhet and Txekrikar, is neutral throughout (unless events conspire to drag them in, but I don't see it happening).
Cadenza is neutral at the start and most likely will remain so.
Arimathea is neutral at the start, but, thanks to an existing treaty with GHawkins and outraged at the loss of Arimathean lives when GH's airship gets shot down, they join in on the side of the Western Powers (assuming GH does).


Not saying anything needs to be changed in the OP for those countries, as it's basically spot on. I just want to nail things down here so we all know what my involvement is. Cadenza will likely lean towards the Western Powers (think "neutral on the Allies' side" as the Irish were in WWII) but won't get involved. I'm open to discussing concessions to either side, though.

Andamonia will align with the Northern Powers. Not sure what they'll be doing, but I'll hopefully figure something out for them.

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Postby Kelonna » Mon Jun 02, 2014 11:32 am

Start of my orbat: http://www.nationstates.net/nation=kelo ... /id=264252

My equipment: http://kelonnanworldwarone.weebly.com/

Back then, Kelonna was the United Kingdom of Kelonna, and her only colony was The Colian Alliance, or Coland. They were pretty much like Australia was to Great Britain
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Postby Nikolia » Mon Jun 02, 2014 12:46 pm

At the start of the GAW1, Nikolia didn't had colonies. GAW1 is sort of the start of the colonisation for Nikolia, in whom Noordenstaat is being annexed. The reason for annexation is the assasination of Nikolian Prince in Noordenstaat, which was there because of the talks about offering Noordenstaat help against Northern Powers. Basically, Northern Powers annexed Fhiongair (NE from Noord.) and started oppressing Noordenstaat, which Nikolia didn't liked.
Basically in whole GAW1, Nikolia will be prioritized to annexing Noordenstaat
So, this may be the reason of the start of GAW1? Like RL WW1, eh? :P
*EDIT: Fhiongair wasn't my colony back then :P So if you can edit that...and put me into neutral for now, Nikolia would later become the member of the Western Powers
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Postby Glisandia » Tue Jun 03, 2014 9:31 am

Nikolia wrote:At the start of the GAW1, Nikolia didn't had colonies. GAW1 is sort of the start of the colonisation for Nikolia, in whom Noordenstaat is being annexed. The reason for annexation is the assasination of Nikolian Prince in Noordenstaat, which was there because of the talks about offering Noordenstaat help against Northern Powers. Basically, Northern Powers annexed Fhiongair (NE from Noord.) and started oppressing Noordenstaat, which Nikolia didn't liked.
Basically in whole GAW1, Nikolia will be prioritized to annexing Noordenstaat
So, this may be the reason of the start of GAW1? Like RL WW1, eh? :P
*EDIT: Fhiongair wasn't my colony back then :P So if you can edit that...and put me into neutral for now, Nikolia would later become the member of the Western Powers


You're killing me. Literally shaving minutes off my life.

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Postby Nikolia » Tue Jun 03, 2014 4:40 pm

Glisandia wrote:
You're killing me. Literally shaving minutes off my life.


Wot?

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Postby Neu Engollon » Wed Jun 04, 2014 10:50 am

Nikolia wrote:
Glisandia wrote:
You're killing me. Literally shaving minutes off my life.


Wot?


LOL, nothin'. I was kidding. But you guys are really going to make this labor intensive, aren't you?

EDIT: I made the fixes. Eventually, I want to figure out a way to put everyone on the sides that they will eventually, at some point, be joining. They may not be in any alliance at the start, but we have to figure out how to describe that they are dragged into the conflict against their will. Otherwise, it's just one big neutral list. I don't know if that means we nail down exact dates that they join, or just put that vaguely, at some point later, they chose a side.

Also, I think I may introduce the Uli-Schwyz Regiment into this. Any takers on signing them up? Otherwise I will hire them on to one of my puppets, if no one else needs their services.
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Postby Agrincourt » Wed Jun 04, 2014 11:33 am

Agrincourt will probably remain neutral during the course of the war unless it is attacked or unless its trade is somehow disrupted.

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Postby Empire of Symphonia » Fri Jun 06, 2014 7:38 am

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Postby Neu Engollon » Mon Jun 09, 2014 6:58 am

We still all on board here? I may get this rolling this week.
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Postby Trellin » Mon Jun 09, 2014 7:40 am

I'm not, for obvious reasons. May get a chance to write something during the week, if it gets going, but I'm a bit behind on my canon for the period. Need to get my hands on drawing paper so I can do some stuff out for when I'm home.

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Postby Kelonna » Mon Jun 09, 2014 12:50 pm

Yeah, sure

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Postby Empire of Symphonia » Mon Jun 09, 2014 9:09 pm

I can agree to this.
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Postby Neu Engollon » Wed Jun 11, 2014 8:04 am

I'll be working on an OP, then. I'll probably do it through Terre Des Gaules, as my main account here will have little to do with the war.
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Postby Blackhelm Confederacy » Wed Jun 11, 2014 8:24 am

BC wont immediately hop in on behalf of the north! Not until those froggies and their friends try and disrupt the steady flow of guns we have have to Glisandia and Ecosse. then we start to fight
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Postby Neu Engollon » Wed Jun 11, 2014 8:34 am

Blackhelm Confederacy wrote:BC wont immediately hop in on behalf of the north! Not until those froggies and their friends try and disrupt the steady flow of guns we have have to Glisandia and Ecosse. then we start to fight


What about in Cote d'Cuivre, though? Are we going to have some colonial action there between the Gaul controlled Cuivran troops and the Expos on your home island? Or maybe once things heat up in the north that will kick off, too?
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Postby Blackhelm Confederacy » Wed Jun 11, 2014 8:40 am

I didnt even think of that! Perhaps once the war starts and Expo gets involved they will send forces into Cuivre. A little ol fashioned jungle fighting!
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