US Government negotiates with Taliban

[Geilinor]

The only evidence I see for such a thing is the word of Dick Cheney. http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/20/international/middleeast/20tape.html?pagewanted=all

Here's a link to the actual order.

http://www.fas.org/irp/offdocs/nsdd/nsdd-207.htm

From the Reagan administration, which negotiated with terrorists during Iran-Contra and the TWA hijacking?

[Magikarp Kingdom]

Jesus?

Not sure really, as I'm unsure who did the exact negotiations within his administration. However, he still didn't have to agree to it.

What if you were the one captured. I'd be grateful that I was considered to be worth so much. There was an American involved and we saved him.

if I was captured by terrorists I would ask them to put a bullet in my head, starve my self and DIE INSTEAD OF RISK AMERICAN LIVES!

[Llamalandia]

who else could he negotiate with? (given that quatar did the negotiating)

This^. Obama negotiated with Qatar, which dealt with the negotiations on the Taliban end.

I believe there's some principle of law which covers this and effectively says something like "achieving an illegal end through legal means is just as illegal as doing so directly through illegal means" or something roughly along those lines.

[Ashmoria]

who else could he negotiate with? (given that quatar did the negotiating)

Jesus?

Not sure really, as I'm unsure who did the exact negotiations within his administration. However, he still didn't have to agree to it.

why would he not want to? part of the deal we make with our soldiers is that we wont leave them to rot forever as prisoners of war. we never have in the past why would we now?

[Kelinfort]

Here's a link to the actual order.

http://www.fas.org/irp/offdocs/nsdd/nsdd-207.htm

From the Reagan administration, which negotiated with terrorists during Iran-Contra and the TWA hijacking?

Ironic since that was issued the same year the contra scandal exploded.

[Llamalandia]

Here's a link to the actual order.

http://www.fas.org/irp/offdocs/nsdd/nsdd-207.htm

From the Reagan administration, which negotiated with terrorists during Iran-Contra and the TWA hijacking?

I know I pointed that out myself if you'll recall.

[Lenciland]

What if you were the one captured. I'd be grateful that I was considered to be worth so much. There was an American involved and we saved him.

if I was captured by terrorists I would ask them to put a bullet in my head, starve my self and DIE INSTEAD OF RISK AMERICAN LIVES!

That is not what happened. He was negotiated for. Nobody got hurt and six guys got reunited with there families.

[Llamalandia]

From the Reagan administration, which negotiated with terrorists during Iran-Contra and the TWA hijacking?

Ironic since that was issued the same year the contra scandal exploded.

I believe it was issued after the illegal actions had taken place though, but I'd have to check the timeline to be sure.

[Kelinfort]

This^. Obama negotiated with Qatar, which dealt with the negotiations on the Taliban end.

I believe there's some principle of law which covers this and effectively says something like "achieving an illegal end through legal means is just as illegal as doing so directly through illegal means" or something roughly along those lines.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure all modern presidents have negotiated with terrorists...if you consider ANC a terrorist group.

[Paddy O Fernature]

Jesus?

Not sure really, as I'm unsure who did the exact negotiations within his administration. However, he still didn't have to agree to it.

What if you were the one captured. I'd be grateful that I was considered to be worth so much. There was an American involved and we saved him.

For starters, I wouldn't be a dumb ass and intentionally walk off by myself in the middle of a fucking warzone.

Next, five years? Yeah, I'd have either been killed or escaped by then, as I've seen first hand the lovely treatment the lovely son's of bitches do to those they don't like.

[Grand Britannia]

Funny part:

We snuck GPS transmitters into their food. As soon as they get their bases...

http://quadmd.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/predator-firing-missile4.jpg

Yes, yes. This must be happening.

[-The Unified Earth Governments-]

What ever happened to- "We don't negotiate with terrorists."?

Its thrown out because ignoring diplomacy in any fashion is outright retarded.

I know this soldier would probably flip the bird to anyone saying he wasn't worth the trade.

What happened to Murica?

No man left behind....

And has everyone forgot that we are the most spyish fuckigng country on the planet?

Like really I would not be surprised if we pop a cap in their ass down the road.

[Kelinfort]

Ironic since that was issued the same year the contra scandal exploded.

I believe it was issued after the illegal actions had taken place though, but I'd have to check the timeline to be sure.

"I didn't do anything wrong, see I'll make it up to you guys!"

[Llamalandia]

I believe there's some principle of law which covers this and effectively says something like "achieving an illegal end through legal means is just as illegal as doing so directly through illegal means" or something roughly along those lines.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure all modern presidents have negotiated with terrorists...if you consider ANC a terrorist group.

Sorry whose ANC?

Also, even if so, unless reagan order was rescinded, it should still have been in force technically.

[Ashmoria]

Absolutely unacceptable! We cannot negotiate with extremist terrorists, regardless of the situation.

the Taliban aren't terrorists. its not terrorism to keep an American soldier as prisoner of war.

[Geilinor]

What if you were the one captured. I'd be grateful that I was considered to be worth so much. There was an American involved and we saved him.

For starters, I wouldn't be a dumb ass and intentionally walk off by myself in the middle of a fucking warzone.

Next, five years? Yeah, I'd have either been killed or escaped by then, as I've seen first hand the lovely treatment the lovely son's of bitches do to those they don't like.

Sure, because being held hostage by terrorists is such an easy thing to walk out of?

[Lenciland]

What if you were the one captured. I'd be grateful that I was considered to be worth so much. There was an American involved and we saved him.

For starters, I wouldn't be a dumb ass and intentionally walk off by myself in the middle of a fucking warzone.

Next, five years? Yeah, I'd have either been killed or escaped by then, as I've seen first hand the lovely treatment the lovely son's of bitches do to those they don't like.

So you are a soldier fighting to protect our oil?

[Kelinfort]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure all modern presidents have negotiated with terrorists...if you consider ANC a terrorist group.

Sorry whose ANC?

Also, even if so, unless reagan order was rescinded, it should still have been in force technically.

African National Congress...the party of Mandela. See, we did some bad things in the late 80's.

[Llamalandia]

What if you were the one captured. I'd be grateful that I was considered to be worth so much. There was an American involved and we saved him.

For starters, I wouldn't be a dumb ass and intentionally walk off by myself in the middle of a fucking warzone.

Next, five years? Yeah, I'd have either been killed or escaped by then, as I've seen first hand the lovely treatment the lovely son's of bitches do to those they don't like.

Well that's one account the other says something like, he was using a trench latrine and was captured then. Literally, caught with his pants down.

[Threlizdun]

One of the more sensible foreign policy decisions the Obama administration has made in a while.

[Llamalandia]

Sorry whose ANC?

Also, even if so, unless reagan order was rescinded, it should still have been in force technically.

African National Congress...the party of Mandela. See, we did some bad things in the late 80's.

Was that the president or congress though I don't know yeah, either way pretty funny they were considered terrorists at one point.

[Geilinor]

For starters, I wouldn't be a dumb ass and intentionally walk off by myself in the middle of a fucking warzone.

Next, five years? Yeah, I'd have either been killed or escaped by then, as I've seen first hand the lovely treatment the lovely son's of bitches do to those they don't like.

Well that's one account the other says something like, he was using a trench latrine and was captured then. Literally, caught with his pants down.

We're not sure what exactly happened.

[Norstal]

You people keep saying that we should close down Gitmo, but when we release prisoners from it, you all went apeshit.

Just...lol.

[Paddy O Fernature]

For starters, I wouldn't be a dumb ass and intentionally walk off by myself in the middle of a fucking warzone.

Next, five years? Yeah, I'd have either been killed or escaped by then, as I've seen first hand the lovely treatment the lovely son's of bitches do to those they don't like.

Well that's one account the other says something like, he was using a trench latrine and was captured then. Literally, caught with his pants down.

Source? As I find that story to be pretty damned not plausible.

[Kelinfort]

African National Congress...the party of Mandela. See, we did some bad things in the late 80's.

Was that the president or congress though I don't know yeah, either way pretty funny they were considered terrorists at one point.

Even funnier, Reagan both negotiated and despised the ANC.