The NS Infantry Discussion Thread MkII*

[Zeinbrad]

Imperial Equipment if the Krima war.
Rifles.
M18/43 Bolt action rifle.
M18/45 carbine (cavalry)

Pistols.
Nagatov Revovler.
Nagatov semi-auto pistol.

Matching Guns.
M18/44 Stuka LMG (Based off the Chauchet)
Maxim gun.

AT weapons.
M18/49 AT rifle (13x108mm)
Zis-45 AT gun (47mm)

[Spreewerke]

Imperial Equipment if the Krima war.
Rifles.
M18/43 Bolt action rifle.
M18/45 carbine (cavalry)

Pistols.
Nagatov Revovler.
Nagatov semi-auto pistol.

Matching Guns.
M18/44 Stuka LMG (Based off the Chauchet)
Maxim gun.

AT weapons.
M18/49 AT rifle (13x108mm)
Zis-45 AT gun (47mm)

What time frame are we looking at?

[Nua Corda]

Matching Guns.
M18/44 Stuka LMG (Based off the Chauchet)
Maxim gun.

I'm afraid those hardly... *puts on sunglasses* ...match

YYYEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!

[Bratislavskaya]

This.

Sissy songs for sissy girls.
Manly songs for manly men.

This.
Interesting fact: I used to play bagpipes, but that was long ago and can no longer do it (not well anyway).

[Romic]

Sissy songs for sissy girls.
Manly songs for manly men.

This.
Interesting fact: I used to play bagpipes, but that was long ago and can no longer do it (not well anyway).

Bagpipe gun... Totally making it.

[Computerised Equality]

So I'm trying to use the g-k bullet designer to create a new rifle round, upsized from the 7.62x51mm NATO, and I'm getting a much larger weight in grains than I'd expect. With the 7.62x51 NATO do the measurements include the cartridge or are they just the bullet?

[Bezombia]

So I'm trying to use the g-k bullet designer to create a new rifle round, upsized from the 7.62x51mm NATO, and I'm getting a much larger weight in grains than I'd expect. With the 7.62x51 NATO do the measurements include the cartridge or are they just the bullet?

wait
are you making your bullet 7.62mm wide and 51mm long

[Bratislavskaya]

This.
Interesting fact: I used to play bagpipes, but that was long ago and can no longer do it (not well anyway).

Bagpipe gun... Totally making it.

Yes, then soldiers can pipe and shoot. No more getting shot and having no defense, not with the Bagpipe gun!

[Nua Corda]

So I'm trying to use the g-k bullet designer to create a new rifle round, upsized from the 7.62x51mm NATO, and I'm getting a much larger weight in grains than I'd expect. With the 7.62x51 NATO do the measurements include the cartridge or are they just the bullet?

What would the Geth want with 7.62 NATO?

[Kouralia]

Bagpipe gun... Totally making it.

Yes, then soldiers can pipe and shoot. No more getting shot and having no defense, not with the Bagpipe gun!

[Bill] Millin is best remembered for playing the pipes whilst under fire during the D-Day landing in Normandy.[4] Pipers had traditionally been used in battle by Scottish and Irish soldiers.[5] However, the use of bagpipes was restricted to rear areas by the time of the Second World War by the British Army. Lovat, nevertheless, ignored these orders and ordered Millin, then aged 21, to play. When Private Millin demurred, citing the regulations, he recalled later, Lord Lovat replied: "Ah, but that’s the English War Office. You and I are both Scottish, and that doesn’t apply." He played "Hielan' Laddie" and "The Road to the Isles" as his comrades fell around him on Sword Beach.[1] Millin states that he later talked to captured German snipers who claimed they did not shoot at him because they thought he was crazy.[6]

Millin, whom Lovat had appointed his personal piper during commando training at Achnacarry, near Fort William in Scotland, was the only man during the landing who wore a kilt – it was the same Cameron tartan kilt his father had worn in Flanders during World War I – and he was armed only with his pipes and the sgian-dubh, or "black knife", sheathed inside his kilt-hose on the right side.[7]

Lovat and Millin advanced from Sword Beach to Pegasus Bridge, which had been defiantly defended by men of the 2nd Bn the Ox & Bucks Light Infantry (6th Airborne Division) who had landed in the early hours by glider. Lovat's commandos arrived at a little past one p.m. at Pegasus Bridge although the rendezvous time in the plan was noon. To the sound of Millin's bagpipes, the commandos marched across Pegasus Bridge as a result of which twelve men died, most shot through their berets.[8] Later detachments of the commandos rushed across in small groups with helmets on. Millin's D-Day bagpipes were later donated to the now Pegasus Bridge Museum.

[Computerised Equality]

So I'm trying to use the g-k bullet designer to create a new rifle round, upsized from the 7.62x51mm NATO, and I'm getting a much larger weight in grains than I'd expect. With the 7.62x51 NATO do the measurements include the cartridge or are they just the bullet?

wait
are you making your bullet 7.62mm wide and 51mm long

I was actually making it 10mm wide and 55 mm long (upsized).
...Is that a yes, then?

[Spreewerke]

Before anyone asks, no, we do not field bagpipes.

[Bezombia]

wait
are you making your bullet 7.62mm wide and 51mm long

I was actually making it 10mm wide and 55 mm long (upsized).
...Is that a yes, then?

Oh my.

"7.62x51" doesn't refer to the bullet at all.
7.62mm is the diameter of the bore, not the bullet. I believe that the actual bullet was 7.8mm wide.
51mm is the length of the case, which has absolutely no bearing on the length of the actual bullet.

[Computerised Equality]

Oh my.

"7.62x51" doesn't refer to the bullet at all.
7.62mm is the diameter of the bore, not the bullet. I believe that the actual bullet was 7.8mm wide.
51mm is the length of the case, which has absolutely no bearing on the length of the actual bullet.

Ah. Thank you. That explains coming out with a weight of 500 grains.

Is there any practical application for a bullet that size?

[Bezombia]

Oh my.

"7.62x51" doesn't refer to the bullet at all.
7.62mm is the diameter of the bore, not the bullet. I believe that the actual bullet was 7.8mm wide.
51mm is the length of the case, which has absolutely no bearing on the length of the actual bullet.

Ah. Thank you. That explains coming out with a weight of 500 grains.

Is there any practical application for a bullet that size?

Well, sure. I can actually see that being a worthy competitor to the .408 Cheytac, .416 Barrett, or even .416 Tyr.

[Zeinbrad]

Imperial Equipment if the Krima war.
Rifles.
M18/43 Bolt action rifle.
M18/45 carbine (cavalry)

Pistols.
Nagatov Revovler.
Nagatov semi-auto pistol.

Matching Guns.
M18/44 Stuka LMG (Based off the Chauchet)
Maxim gun.

AT weapons.
M18/49 AT rifle (13x108mm)
Zis-45 AT gun (47mm)

What time frame are we looking at?

1800's with WW1 tech.

[Spreewerke]

What time frame are we looking at?

1800's with WW1 tech.

So, I'm assuming this means tanks would have existed in the 1800s for you. Otherwise, I can't see why anyone would have anti-tank weapons without there first being tanks to anti-.

[Zeinbrad]

1800's with WW1 tech.

So, I'm assuming this means tanks would have existed in the 1800s for you. Otherwise, I can't see why anyone would have anti-tank weapons without there first being tanks to anti-.

Tanks where beginning to become common before the war, the war being the first major use of tanks. In that they played an active part of it.

[Bezombia]

1800's with WW1 tech.

So, I'm assuming this means tanks would have existed in the 1800s for you. Otherwise, I can't see why anyone would have anti-tank weapons without there first being tanks to anti-.

Maybe they developed weapons assuming that eventually someone else would invent technology to use their weapons against.

[Zeinbrad]

Matching Guns.
M18/44 Stuka LMG (Based off the Chauchet)
Maxim gun.

I'm afraid those hardly... *puts on sunglasses* ...match

YYYEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!

Damn you autocorrect!

[Puzikas]

So, I'm assuming this means tanks would have existed in the 1800s for you. Otherwise, I can't see why anyone would have anti-tank weapons without there first being tanks to anti-.

Maybe they developed weapons assuming that eventually someone else would invent technology to use their weapons against.

This is the logic in use here.
The most flawless of logic.

[Spreewerke]

So, I'm assuming this means tanks would have existed in the 1800s for you. Otherwise, I can't see why anyone would have anti-tank weapons without there first being tanks to anti-.

Maybe they developed weapons assuming that eventually someone else would invent technology to use their weapons against.

I'll go ahead and start developing rounds that contain trace elements of human seed laced with AIDS and holy water to combat the inevitable horde of succubi. Spreewerke ain't afraid of no End of Days.

[Santa Lucania]

What could be the earliest I would be able to issue a semi-automatic rifle into service with my armed forces?

[Spreewerke]

What could be the earliest I would be able to issue a semi-automatic rifle into service with my armed forces?

Though models existed before it, the M1 Garand was probably the first widely-used, grossly successful semi-automatic (at least that I can think of: others may easily disprove this). So, ~1930s, potentially 1920s and such. You could likely do it before then, of course, with older designs, but every-man-semi-auto wasn't a big "thing" until post-WWI.

[Computerised Equality]

Well, sure. I can actually see that being a worthy competitor to the .408 Cheytac, .416 Barrett, or even .416 Tyr.

So that's a medium/heavy sniper round, yes?

How's this as a bullet to go in a full power cartridge?