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by The Republic of Pantalleria » Fri May 09, 2014 4:24 am
by Asigna » Fri May 09, 2014 5:21 am
The Republic of Pantalleria wrote:"Benevolent" tyranny.
by Luzvimindia » Fri May 09, 2014 5:42 am
Asigna wrote:The Republic of Pantalleria wrote:"Benevolent" tyranny.
Of course, forceful solutions should only be temporary, it is necessary so that we may shape a future for the people, who desperately want change in this corrupt society of ours.
I couldn't believe Manny Villar is going to buy the Water district of our city, meaning he'll double the prices of our water in Zamboanga city. He's here to secure his family's little empire all over the Philippines. I am so angry right now, as if the blackouts weren't enough that they had to overprice the most vital resource for us, water.
This is proof...we need force. My fellow Filipinos, force is needed to destroy those people who are responsible for this treason, this treachery done against their own people for their own selfish interests. There is no other way for the law is corrupted by the corrupt ones who own the government.
The real criminals of society are in our government and these must be put to justice, not the kind of justice defined by the corrupt, they are slow and the trials that occur often have loopholes that end up with the corrupt being saved from these allegations that are obviously true. Rather, true justice. Death. It is swift, it is more efficient. For our future. It is really urgent that those able to make a stand stand up and speak against this government. Or else we'll have the same matter revolving in our time, a weak and corrupt Philippines.
by Asigna » Fri May 09, 2014 5:43 am
Luzvimindia wrote:It's not only the politicians who are selfish. Even a majority of the voting population are. If the population wasn't selfish then we wouldn't have those corrupt politicians in a position in the first place. The Filipinos' own selfishness made this country corrupt and weak. If only all Filipinos will realize that. We must be accountable for our actions. That's the beauty of democracy, unfortunately, not every Filipino knows that.
by Luzvimindia » Fri May 09, 2014 7:32 am
Asigna wrote:Luzvimindia wrote:It's not only the politicians who are selfish. Even a majority of the voting population are. If the population wasn't selfish then we wouldn't have those corrupt politicians in a position in the first place. The Filipinos' own selfishness made this country corrupt and weak. If only all Filipinos will realize that. We must be accountable for our actions. That's the beauty of democracy, unfortunately, not every Filipino knows that.
How were the voters selfish? Can you elaborate on that? I just want to hear it.
by Asigna » Fri May 09, 2014 7:36 am
Luzvimindia wrote:I am NOT generalizing all voters to be selfish nor all politicians to be corrupt, but those who are should be ashamed. In the end, once the politician is in a position of power, the sack of rice and P1000 are taken back in the form of taxes which, if the politician truly is corrupt, just ends up in their pockets.
by Benshir » Fri May 09, 2014 7:37 am
Asigna wrote:Oh this, the fact that Filipino people could easily be deceived by offers that only benefit them in a short term but when the one they elected comes into power, it is acually, in the end, they who suffer in the long run. I get you.
What use is a short term offer when in the long run we suffer.
Because of that, i always thought of a certain future for the Philippines.
by Asigna » Fri May 09, 2014 7:39 am
Benshir wrote:For any hope of change to be at least remotely possible, this vicious little cycle has to end.
by Benshir » Fri May 09, 2014 7:40 am
Asigna wrote:Yes, or else the fun future for the Philippines will come ...it will dismantled.
by Asigna » Fri May 09, 2014 7:42 am
Benshir wrote:Let's start with not electing Binay president, shall we? I want functional, sleek democracy and the accompanying bureaucracy within reasonable levels. Not an oligarchy run under the pretense of freedom. The Philippines is anything but free.
by Luzvimindia » Fri May 09, 2014 7:46 am
by Asigna » Fri May 09, 2014 7:49 am
Luzvimindia wrote:Unfortunately, the results of the latest PulseAsia survey isn't too heartening either. Although it isn't surprising that Binay is the first I don't think he is the best man for the job. Among those who have said that they might run in 2016, I think Chiz Escudero would be best suited for the job.
by Luzvimindia » Fri May 09, 2014 7:53 am
Asigna wrote:Luzvimindia wrote:Unfortunately, the results of the latest PulseAsia survey isn't too heartening either. Although it isn't surprising that Binay is the first I don't think he is the best man for the job. Among those who have said that they might run in 2016, I think Chiz Escudero would be best suited for the job.
Even though he gives me suspicions. Somewhat though in the earlier elections i preferred Gibo Teodoro over the rest, his intentions were good, he seemed the good guy who won't take political factionalism or tribalism seriously and would rather become and act like a real politician ready to serve his people.
by Brutland and Norden » Fri May 09, 2014 7:55 am
Benshir wrote:Let's start with not electing Binay president, shall we?
by Asigna » Fri May 09, 2014 7:56 am
Luzvimindia wrote:I'd rather go for the younger politicians with a good record. I've had enough of these 50 years old+ politicians. It's time for the younger generations to the take the reins.
by Benshir » Fri May 09, 2014 7:57 am
Brutland and Norden wrote:Agreed.
When he wins in two years, I'd probably have serious doubts about wanting to stay here.
by Luzvimindia » Fri May 09, 2014 8:03 am
Asigna wrote:Luzvimindia wrote:I'd rather go for the younger politicians with a good record. I've had enough of these 50 years old+ politicians. It's time for the younger generations to the take the reins.
Younger people who are more open minded people as we had agreed earlier in this thread are the ones that will give this country hope. They are the millennials (Generation Y) to be specific.
by Brutland and Norden » Fri May 09, 2014 8:09 am
Benshir wrote:From day one of his stint as VP, I could already smell the ambition reeking from that little man.
by Luzvimindia » Fri May 09, 2014 8:13 am
Brutland and Norden wrote:Benshir wrote:From day one of his stint as VP, I could already smell the ambition reeking from that little man.
Not to mention his and his family's trapo attitude, such as wanting special treatment (cf. Dasma village incident). His attitude is something we don't need in the country, especially from a President.
by The Republic of Pantalleria » Sat May 10, 2014 9:53 pm
Benshir wrote:Asigna wrote:Yes, or else the fun future for the Philippines will come ...it will dismantled.
Let's start with not electing Binay president, shall we? I want functional, sleek democracy and the accompanying bureaucracy within reasonable levels. Not an oligarchy run under the pretense of freedom. The Philippines is anything but free.
by Benshir » Mon May 12, 2014 3:43 am
The Republic of Pantalleria wrote:Unfortunately, those who actually will do a good job of running the country aren't running for Presidency...
by Nationalist Eminral Republic » Mon May 12, 2014 9:07 pm
The Republic of Pantalleria wrote:Benshir wrote:Let's start with not electing Binay president, shall we? I want functional, sleek democracy and the accompanying bureaucracy within reasonable levels. Not an oligarchy run under the pretense of freedom. The Philippines is anything but free.
Unfortunately, those who actually will do a good job of running the country aren't running for Presidency...
Federation of Eminral Republic|Pederasyon ng Republika ng Eminral
エミンラル共和連邦 | Federación de la República Eminral
by Benshir » Mon May 12, 2014 9:12 pm
Nationalist Eminral Republic wrote:Maybe they've given up with the country. To be fair, its not gonna be easy to govern over undisciplined people.
by Luzvimindia » Mon May 12, 2014 10:10 pm
Benshir wrote:Nationalist Eminral Republic wrote:Maybe they've given up with the country. To be fair, its not gonna be easy to govern over undisciplined people.
Maybe if people we elected AND people who elected them started considering hard economic fact and political economy, then we could get around this little rut we've found ourselves in.
Of course, the chances of that happening are rather slim. Such is the lot of a 3rd world country, waist-deep in bureaucracy and corruption; with rampant crime and unemployment, horrible economic planning and a largely uneducated population. Add to that, that a great majority of said population suffer from inferiority complexes, and are unable to make commitments to anything unless they have a surefire chance or recognition or appearing on television for it.
by Benshir » Mon May 12, 2014 11:02 pm
Luzvimindia wrote:IMHO, the middle class and upper-middle class are the ones in the best position to help solve the problem of our country. They are not as rich as most of the known corrupt bureaucrats and political dynasties but are not too poor to be uneducated. Also, most of the middle class people have a history of coming from poorer circumstances and so they know what it means to truly work hard to become well-off. Unfortunately, the middle class is not very well represented in our society and usually go into business rather than politics. We are stuck in a medieval-type society where there are only two major divisions in society: the rich and the poor, and we all know what happens when that's the case.
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