by Volnotov » Tue Apr 27, 2010 2:33 pm
by Volnotov » Tue Apr 27, 2010 2:37 pm
EvilDarkMagicians wrote:So what exactly is your point?
by Traceynia » Tue Apr 27, 2010 2:37 pm
by Lackadaisical2 » Tue Apr 27, 2010 2:38 pm
EvilDarkMagicians wrote:So what exactly is your point?
The Republic of Lanos wrote:Proud member of the Vile Right-Wing Noodle Combat Division of the Imperialist Anti-Socialist Economic War Army Ground Force reporting in.
by Lackadaisical2 » Tue Apr 27, 2010 2:39 pm
Volnotov wrote:EvilDarkMagicians wrote:So what exactly is your point?
That people stop bitching about their non-existant human rights and stop trying to hamper the progress of human society because they can't put the greater good above their pathetic self interests and above their primitive animal instincts.
The Republic of Lanos wrote:Proud member of the Vile Right-Wing Noodle Combat Division of the Imperialist Anti-Socialist Economic War Army Ground Force reporting in.
by Takaram » Tue Apr 27, 2010 2:39 pm
by Natapoc » Tue Apr 27, 2010 2:39 pm
by Central Slavia » Tue Apr 27, 2010 2:40 pm
Glorious Homeland wrote:
You would be wrong. There's something wrong with the Americans, the Japanese are actually insane, the Chinese don't seem capable of free-thought and just defer judgement to the most powerful strong man, the Russians are quite like that, only more aggressive and mad, and Belarus? Hah.
Omnicracy wrote:The Soviet Union did not support pro-Soviet governments, it compleatly controled them. The U.S. did not controle the corrupt regiems it set up against the Soviet Union, it just sugested things and changed leaders if they weer not takeing enough sugestions
Great Nepal wrote:Please stick to OFFICIAL numbers. Why to go to scholars,[cut]
by Lackadaisical2 » Tue Apr 27, 2010 2:41 pm
Central Slavia wrote:I agree with every damn word of this post.
You, sir are a genius!
The Republic of Lanos wrote:Proud member of the Vile Right-Wing Noodle Combat Division of the Imperialist Anti-Socialist Economic War Army Ground Force reporting in.
by Great Nepal » Tue Apr 27, 2010 2:42 pm
Volnotov wrote:Why are people always whining about their civil rights?
About their privacy, their right to have freedom of speech, their right to do whatever they wan't, the right to be treated ethical and humane, ect.
I believe it is time for this nonsense to end.
Ofcourse, right now you may think "Nonsense? Those are my god damn rights you fascist!"
Well, I have a question for you.
Who says you have those rights?
Who or what decides that?
Is it us Humans?
Well, I'll present the following question to you.
"If all the people on the world would stop believing there was gravity, would gravity cease to exist?"
Why am I posting such a silly question you may think, well the reason is that from my experience believe start to believe that human rights is a fundemental law of nature, just like gravity.
But I believe that is flawed.
I don't believe we have rights just because the media and politicians keep telling us that.
If we would all believe tomorow that the Earth is flat, then the Earth certainly wouldn't suddenly turn into a flat disk.
Human Rights don't exist, and they certainly not something like gravity or other laws of nature.
It's a thing made and invented by Human beings.
But where do these so called "Human rights" come from?
1 Word - Religion.
Think of the 10 commandments.
Or the Codex of Hammurabi in ancient mesopotamia.
And now, onto the question.
Who decides we have "rights"?
Well I would say - no one.
From this point of view I would say we have no rights, neither do we have duties.
Ofcourse, but now we live in a society.
And I believe that in order for a society to survive, and mankind in general we should make laws - to protect human from exploitation for example. And give people duties and responsibilities. Like paying your tax, going to work, don't kill other people, ect.
But I do not believe we have rights, and I can't understand how there are still those that believe believe we do - with, in my opinion having no proof whatsoever.
But ofcourse, believe what you will.
Because who says you are not allowed too?
by Volnotov » Tue Apr 27, 2010 2:42 pm
by Makaar » Tue Apr 27, 2010 2:42 pm
by Treznor » Tue Apr 27, 2010 2:43 pm
Volnotov wrote:EvilDarkMagicians wrote:So what exactly is your point?
That people stop bitching about their non-existant human rights and stop trying to hamper the progress of human society because they can't put the greater good above their pathetic self interests and above their primitive animal instincts.
by Qwcasd » Tue Apr 27, 2010 2:44 pm
Volnotov wrote:Why are people always whining about their civil rights?
About their privacy, their right to have freedom of speech, their right to do whatever they wan't, the right to be treated ethical and humane, ect.
I believe it is time for this nonsense to end.
Ofcourse, right now you may think "Nonsense? Those are my god damn rights you fascist!"
Well, I have a question for you.
Who says you have those rights?
Who or what decides that?
Is it us Humans?
Well, I'll present the following question to you.
"If all the people on the world would stop believing there was gravity, would gravity cease to exist?"
Why am I posting such a silly question you may think, well the reason is that from my experience believe start to believe that human rights is a fundemental law of nature, just like gravity.
But I believe that is flawed.
I don't believe we have rights just because the media and politicians keep telling us that.
If we would all believe tomorow that the Earth is flat, then the Earth certainly wouldn't suddenly turn into a flat disk.
Human Rights don't exist, and they certainly not something like gravity or other laws of nature.
It's a thing made and invented by Human beings.
But where do these so called "Human rights" come from?
1 Word - Religion.
Think of the 10 commandments.
Or the Codex of Hammurabi in ancient mesopotamia.
And now, onto the question.
Who decides we have "rights"?
Well I would say - no one.
From this point of view I would say we have no rights, neither do we have duties.
Ofcourse, but now we live in a society.
And I believe that in order for a society to survive, and mankind in general we should make laws - to protect human from exploitation for example. And give people duties and responsibilities. Like paying your tax, going to work, don't kill other people, ect.
But I do not believe we have rights, and I can't understand how there are still those that believe believe we do - with, in my opinion having no proof whatsoever.
But ofcourse, believe what you will.
Because who says you are not allowed too?
by Flameswroth » Tue Apr 27, 2010 2:44 pm
Volnotov wrote:EvilDarkMagicians wrote:So what exactly is your point?
That people stop bitching about their non-existant human rights and stop trying to hamper the progress of human society because they can't put the greater good above their pathetic self interests and above their primitive animal instincts.
Czardas wrote:Why should we bail out climate change with billions of dollars, when lesbians are starving in the streets because they can't afford an abortion?
Reagan Clone wrote:What you are proposing is glorifying God by loving, respecting, or at least tolerating, his other creations.
That is the gayest fucking shit I've ever heard, and I had Barry Manilow perform at the White House in '82.
by Central Slavia » Tue Apr 27, 2010 2:45 pm
Makaar wrote:Coin has two sides. What gives the government the right to force people to do things for "the greater good"? It's PRECISELY what gives people their "human rights" - in other words, it's the society at the time saying "right, now this is what we believe".
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Glorious Homeland wrote:
You would be wrong. There's something wrong with the Americans, the Japanese are actually insane, the Chinese don't seem capable of free-thought and just defer judgement to the most powerful strong man, the Russians are quite like that, only more aggressive and mad, and Belarus? Hah.
Omnicracy wrote:The Soviet Union did not support pro-Soviet governments, it compleatly controled them. The U.S. did not controle the corrupt regiems it set up against the Soviet Union, it just sugested things and changed leaders if they weer not takeing enough sugestions
Great Nepal wrote:Please stick to OFFICIAL numbers. Why to go to scholars,[cut]
by Ravea » Tue Apr 27, 2010 2:45 pm
by Central Slavia » Tue Apr 27, 2010 2:46 pm
Glorious Homeland wrote:
You would be wrong. There's something wrong with the Americans, the Japanese are actually insane, the Chinese don't seem capable of free-thought and just defer judgement to the most powerful strong man, the Russians are quite like that, only more aggressive and mad, and Belarus? Hah.
Omnicracy wrote:The Soviet Union did not support pro-Soviet governments, it compleatly controled them. The U.S. did not controle the corrupt regiems it set up against the Soviet Union, it just sugested things and changed leaders if they weer not takeing enough sugestions
Great Nepal wrote:Please stick to OFFICIAL numbers. Why to go to scholars,[cut]
by Central Slavia » Tue Apr 27, 2010 2:48 pm
Ravea wrote:I'm sure if someone had a gun to your head or a knife to your throat because you look a certain way or was torturing you because you came from a certain ethnic group you'd be begging for your human rights.
Glorious Homeland wrote:
You would be wrong. There's something wrong with the Americans, the Japanese are actually insane, the Chinese don't seem capable of free-thought and just defer judgement to the most powerful strong man, the Russians are quite like that, only more aggressive and mad, and Belarus? Hah.
Omnicracy wrote:The Soviet Union did not support pro-Soviet governments, it compleatly controled them. The U.S. did not controle the corrupt regiems it set up against the Soviet Union, it just sugested things and changed leaders if they weer not takeing enough sugestions
Great Nepal wrote:Please stick to OFFICIAL numbers. Why to go to scholars,[cut]
by Takaram » Tue Apr 27, 2010 2:48 pm
Volnotov wrote:EvilDarkMagicians wrote:So what exactly is your point?
That people stop bitching about their non-existant human rights and stop trying to hamper the progress of human society because they can't put the greater good above their pathetic self interests and above their primitive animal instincts.
by Self--Esteem » Tue Apr 27, 2010 2:49 pm
by Volnotov » Tue Apr 27, 2010 2:49 pm
Treznor wrote:Volnotov wrote:EvilDarkMagicians wrote:So what exactly is your point?
That people stop bitching about their non-existant human rights and stop trying to hamper the progress of human society because they can't put the greater good above their pathetic self interests and above their primitive animal instincts.
And why do you believe that the greater good can't be served by defining and protecting "human rights"? Wasn't it "human rights" that enabled an entire class of people to rise up from slavery and become creative contributors to society instead of just menial workers? Wasn't it "human rights" that enabled half of all citizens to participate in government and join the other half in academic, industrial and political pursuits? I could go on, but my point is that the fight to bring inequality to an end seems to have had some very positive results toward the greater good.
by The Galirandi » Tue Apr 27, 2010 2:50 pm
by The Rich Port » Tue Apr 27, 2010 2:52 pm
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