LGBT in Catholic High Schools Discussion

[San Benedict e San Francesco]

I am a 16 year old bisexuals male who goes to a Catholic High School in Pennsylvania. I had known since I graduated 8th grade that I was most likely bisexual. After 2 months of my freshman year in the closet I finally decided to blurt it out to the world on a bus one day.it was like a weight was lifted off of my shoulders, I then weng home and told my family and whilethey were religious and would object to me living a bi lifestyle they accepted me for who I was.

The next day of school I came back with a new sense of confidence and happiness about who I am. I finally felt like I could truely be myself and not have to conform to a sexual identity I didn't affiliate with. Sadly, while most kids were moderately accepting and others rather skeptical the school administrators reacted worse.

Aparently, my bus driver had ratted me out to the school administrators and two days after I came ouf I was called into their office. I was told to sit down and was spoken to in private. The man looked me in the eyes and asked me if "I had said anything on the bus". My body froze I was incredibly uncomfortable and being scared I denied it.

He then got more serious and asked me if I had said I was bisexual. My face was fucking red, it was none of this guys business what sexuality I am! I said yes I did say that. And then he asked me why, as if he didn't fucking know. So I told him directly "because that's who I am".
He told me: "You can't tell anybody that."

I was fucking furious but maintained my composure until I was able to leave. I now don't feel safe around school authorities. Doesn't he know that by telling a kid to reject who they are they are only adding to the piles of bullying and depression common in LGBT youth?

Oh yes, by suggesting that you shouldn't be announcing your sexuality on a catholic school bus he's adding to the bullying and depression that is common amongst 'LGBT youth'.

I think being gay is causing more depression amongst 'LGBT youth' than bullying, homosexuality is an inappropriate, horrifying and sinful activity that brings the wrath of the Lord.

I think the fact that even someone asking you about it making you react in such a way is further proof that in your heart you know what you are doing is wrong.

I feel sorry for you, having been converted to homosexuality at such a young age. but there is hope.

There are plenty of treatments and other remedial opportunities for youth who suffer from this issue. infact, there is an excellent app called, 'door of hope' on Android that offers many opportunities for you to shun the Homosexual lifestyle and embrace Jesus. i really hope it works out for you.

I refer you to my previous post, and invoke the law of Poe.

[Hakio]

I am a 16 year old bisexuals male who goes to a Catholic High School in Pennsylvania. I had known since I graduated 8th grade that I was most likely bisexual. After 2 months of my freshman year in the closet I finally decided to blurt it out to the world on a bus one day.it was like a weight was lifted off of my shoulders, I then weng home and told my family and whilethey were religious and would object to me living a bi lifestyle they accepted me for who I was.

The next day of school I came back with a new sense of confidence and happiness about who I am. I finally felt like I could truely be myself and not have to conform to a sexual identity I didn't affiliate with. Sadly, while most kids were moderately accepting and others rather skeptical the school administrators reacted worse.

Aparently, my bus driver had ratted me out to the school administrators and two days after I came ouf I was called into their office. I was told to sit down and was spoken to in private. The man looked me in the eyes and asked me if "I had said anything on the bus". My body froze I was incredibly uncomfortable and being scared I denied it.

He then got more serious and asked me if I had said I was bisexual. My face was fucking red, it was none of this guys business what sexuality I am! I said yes I did say that. And then he asked me why, as if he didn't fucking know. So I told him directly "because that's who I am".
He told me: "You can't tell anybody that."

I was fucking furious but maintained my composure until I was able to leave. I now don't feel safe around school authorities. Doesn't he know that by telling a kid to reject who they are they are only adding to the piles of bullying and depression common in LGBT youth?

Oh yes, by suggesting that you shouldn't be announcing your sexuality on a catholic school bus he's adding to the bullying and depression that is common amongst 'LGBT youth'.

I think being gay is causing more depression amongst 'LGBT youth' than bullying, homosexuality is an inappropriate, horrifying and sinful activity that brings the wrath of the Lord.

I feel sorry for you, having been converted to homosexuality at such a young age. but there is hope.

There are plenty of treatments and other remedial opportunities for youth who suffer from this issue. infact, there is an excellent app called, 'door of hope' on Android that offers many opportunities for you to shun the Homosexual lifestyle and embrace Jesus. i really hope it works out for you.

How is me liking guys and girls horrifying? Can you tell me that?
Btw: JUDAS KISS

[Estado Paulista]

After 2 months of my freshman year in the closet I finally decided to blurt it out to the world on a bus one day.

...why? Seriously, why? Yelling "Hey guys! I'm bisexual!" is simply crying out for attention. Not saying you should have remained in the closet, but there are better ways of telling "the world" you're bi.

Yes, I sort of agree with this. There are better ways of "leaving the closet". If you really did that, you came off as an attention seeker/kid facing problems, and that's why the school administrators acted the way they did. I don't think they overreacted, but they shouldn't have told you "not to tell anybody that". As a Catholic person that attends a non-affiliated Christian school, I have some homosexual classmates who are very open about their sexuality and never got in trouble because of that. Besides, do you even know if you're really mature enough to know whether you're bisexual or not?

[Grossdeutsches Kaiserreich]

How is me liking guys and girls horrifying? Can you tell me that?
Btw: JUDAS KISS

If you are a man, which i assume you are, liking other boys is disgusting, and sinful.

That's not how the Lord built us, it's also incredibly dangerous. Do you know the diseases that homosexuality propogates?

[Hakio]

Says he's bisexual several times in the post.
Accused of being part of the homossxual lifestyle by crazy fundies.

[San Benedict e San Francesco]

How is me liking guys and girls horrifying? Can you tell me that?
Btw: JUDAS KISS

If you are a man, which i assume you are, liking other boys is disgusting, and sinful.

That's not how the Lord built us, it's also incredibly dangerous. Do you know the diseases that homosexuality propogates?

Are you aware that such diseases also propagate along heterosexual lines?

[Vashta Nerada]

Calling someone a homophobe because they don't agree with your "sexual life style" is as arrogant as calling someone anti-Semitic because they don't agree with Israel blowing up entire Palestinian communities in "self-defense".

It means that I don't pay attention to insults about my race, and I don't go around calling people racist because they don't accept me. Therefore, I have a harder skin because I better ignore insults than give them fuel to stick and hurt.

No, I know how you think. I used to be a conservative in my youth. You devalue the purpose political correctness so that you can have an excuse to speak in broad judgmental ways justifiably, like you just did.

No, I highly doubt you know how I think because we've never met or spoken on a personal level. I use common sense to understand the fact that homosexuality is wrong no matter how you look at it. Even if you look at it from a religious or atheist point of view, homosexuality is unnatural regardless of your stance. At least with heterosexuality, there is an outcome that results from opposite sex relationships that benefit society. There is no such benefit with homosexuality. So I don't an excuse to speak about homosexuality. No excuse is needed. If I see something is wrong, I'm going to speak up about it. The only defense you have is that there is a large, vocal minority people with a lot of money and thus a lot of political power, pushing the issue in society, and push people to accept something that most of the world believes is wrong.

[Hakio]

How is me liking guys and girls horrifying? Can you tell me that?
Btw: JUDAS KISS

If you are a man, which i assume you are, liking other boys is disgusting, and sinful.

That's not how the Lord built us, it's also incredibly dangerous. Do you know the diseases that homosexuality propogates?

Do you know all the STDs you can contract from heterosexual sex? The same amount.

[Hakio]

No, I know how you think. I used to be a conservative in my youth. You devalue the purpose political correctness so that you can have an excuse to speak in broad judgmental ways justifiably, like you just did.

No, I highly doubt you know how I think because we've never met or spoken on a personal level. I use common sense to understand the fact that homosexuality is wrong no matter how you look at it. Even if you look at it from a religious or atheist point of view, homosexuality is unnatural regardless of your stance. At least with heterosexuality, there is an outcome that results from opposite sex relationships that benefit society. There is no such benefit with homosexuality. So I don't an excuse to speak about homosexuality. No excuse is needed. If I see something is wrong, I'm going to speak up about it. The only defense you have is that there is a large, vocal minority people with a lot of money and thus a lot of political power, pushing the issue in society, and push people to accept something that most of the world believes is wrong.

Can you people really not see how silly calling two guys kissing evil is?

[Thafoo]

How is me liking guys and girls horrifying? Can you tell me that?
Btw: JUDAS KISS

If you are a man, which i assume you are, liking other boys is disgusting, and sinful.

That's not how the Lord built us, it's also incredibly dangerous. Do you know the diseases that homosexuality propogates?

...Do you know the diseases that regular intercourse propagates? AIDS can be spread by any sexual intercourse, blood transmission, or needle contamination. It isn't exclusively homosexual.

[Grossdeutsches Kaiserreich]

If you are a man, which i assume you are, liking other boys is disgusting, and sinful.

That's not how the Lord built us, it's also incredibly dangerous. Do you know the diseases that homosexuality propogates?

Do you know all the STDs you can contract from heterosexual sex? The same amount.

AIDs is the result of homosexuality, you know. so is HIV.

[Vashta Nerada]

If you are a man, which i assume you are, liking other boys is disgusting, and sinful.

That's not how the Lord built us, it's also incredibly dangerous. Do you know the diseases that homosexuality propogates?

Do you know all the STDs you can contract from heterosexual sex? The same amount.

Gay partners are more likely to get an STD than straight partners. Ratio-wise, gays couples contract more STDs that straight couples, and STD rates are higher in gay men than straight men. The HIV transmission rate during anal sex is 18 times higher that during vaginal intercourse, and since most gay men don't want the secret that their gay getting out, many simply refuse to get medical treatment. And before you say this is some sort of an attack, read this.

[San Benedict e San Francesco]

Do you know all the STDs you can contract from heterosexual sex? The same amount.

Gay partners are more likely to get an STD than straight partners. Ratio-wise, gays couples contract more STDs that straight couples, and STD rates are higher in gay men than straight men. The HIV transmission rate during anal sex is 18 times highly that during vaginal intercourse, and since most gay men don't want the secret that their gay getting out, many simply refuse to get medical treatment.

Source. More recent than the 60s, if you please.

[Thafoo]

No, I know how you think. I used to be a conservative in my youth. You devalue the purpose political correctness so that you can have an excuse to speak in broad judgmental ways justifiably, like you just did.

No, I highly doubt you know how I think because we've never met or spoken on a personal level. I use common sense to understand the fact that homosexuality is wrong no matter how you look at it. Even if you look at it from a religious or atheist point of view, homosexuality is unnatural regardless of your stance. At least with heterosexuality, there is an outcome that results from opposite sex relationships that benefit society. There is no such benefit with homosexuality. So I don't an excuse to speak about homosexuality. No excuse is needed. If I see something is wrong, I'm going to speak up about it. The only defense you have is that there is a large, vocal minority people with a lot of money and thus a lot of political power, pushing the issue in society, and push people to accept something that most of the world believes is wrong.

Society no longer requires the "benefit" of procreation. Overpopulation is a problem increasing in severity.

Homosexuality is triggered by epigenetic factors in the womb which, last I checked, isn't human-caused. And, even if it was... what, pray tell, defines how "natural" something is? After all, humans are a part of nature, as well- humans are animals, too, just ones with superior minds compared to the rest of Earth's organisms.

[Hakio]

Do you know all the STDs you can contract from heterosexual sex? The same amount.

AIDs is the result of homosexuality, you know. so is HIV.

AIDS is the result of heroin abuse, sir. It can be contracted during anal sex, which not all gay men do, and can just as easily be contracted from heterosexual anal sex which isn't an uncommon practice.

[Vashta Nerada]

Gay partners are more likely to get an STD than straight partners. Ratio-wise, gays couples contract more STDs that straight couples, and STD rates are higher in gay men than straight men. The HIV transmission rate during anal sex is 18 times highly that during vaginal intercourse, and since most gay men don't want the secret that their gay getting out, many simply refuse to get medical treatment.

Source. More recent than the 60s, if you please.

See what I mean? You thought it was some sort of an attack as I mention above. Here. Educate yourself.

[Thafoo]

Do you know all the STDs you can contract from heterosexual sex? The same amount.

Gay partners are more likely to get an STD than straight partners. Ratio-wise, gays couples contract more STDs that straight couples, and STD rates are higher in gay men than straight men. The HIV transmission rate during anal sex is 18 times higher that during vaginal intercourse, and since most gay men don't want the secret that their gay getting out, many simply refuse to get medical treatment. And before you say this is some sort of an attack, read this.

Did you read what you cited?
Homophobia and other forms of legal and social discrimination against gay men make it more difficult for them to access health care. This may cause delays in diagnosis and treatment of HIV infection. Since people are often most infectious during acute infection, and treatment reduces infectivity, this further increases the HIV risk among MSM.

[Fascist Russian Empire]

Really, the Catholic Church should shove their homophobia right up their ass. Jesus didn't say jack shit about homosexuality, and the Old Testament homophobia is rendered void by the fulfillment brought by the coming of the Messiah. God doesn't hate anyone, and the sooner Catholics start to realize that, the better.

[Grossdeutsches Kaiserreich]

AIDs is the result of homosexuality, you know. so is HIV.

AIDS is the result of heroin abuse, sir. It can be contracted during anal sex, which not all gay men do, and can just as easily be contracted from heterosexual anal sex which isn't an uncommon practice.

sodomy, homosexuality... both are sinful behaviors.

Avoiding sexual relations outside of marriage brings your chances of catching such a disease to near 0%.

Really, the Catholic Church should shove their homophobia right up their ass. Jesus didn't say jack shit about homosexuality, and the Old Testament homophobia is rendered void by the fulfillment brought by the coming of the Messiah. God doesn't hate anyone, and the sooner Catholics start to realize that, the better.

Who said anything about 'hate'?

[San Benedict e San Francesco]

However, the following paragraph of the CCC, 2358, states "[Homosexuals] must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided. These persons are called to fulfill God's will in their lives and, if they are Christians, to unite in the sacrifice of the Lord's Cross the difficulties they may encounter from their [orientation]."

Fascist Russian Empire... j'accuse!

[Estado Paulista]

Do you know all the STDs you can contract from heterosexual sex? The same amount.

AIDs is the result of homosexuality, you know. so is HIV.

Bullshit.

[The Liberated Territories]

I am a 16 year old bisexuals male who goes to a Catholic High School in Pennsylvania. I had known since I graduated 8th grade that I was most likely bisexual. After 2 months of my freshman year in the closet I finally decided to blurt it out to the world on a bus one day.it was like a weight was lifted off of my shoulders, I then weng home and told my family and whilethey were religious and would object to me living a bi lifestyle they accepted me for who I was.

The next day of school I came back with a new sense of confidence and happiness about who I am. I finally felt like I could truely be myself and not have to conform to a sexual identity I didn't affiliate with. Sadly, while most kids were moderately accepting and others rather skeptical the school administrators reacted worse.

Aparently, my bus driver had ratted me out to the school administrators and two days after I came ouf I was called into their office. I was told to sit down and was spoken to in private. The man looked me in the eyes and asked me if "I had said anything on the bus". My body froze I was incredibly uncomfortable and being scared I denied it.

He then got more serious and asked me if I had said I was bisexual. My face was fucking red, it was none of this guys business what sexuality I am! I said yes I did say that. And then he asked me why, as if he didn't fucking know. So I told him directly "because that's who I am".
He told me: "You can't tell anybody that."

I was fucking furious but maintained my composure until I was able to leave. I now don't feel safe around school authorities. Doesn't he know that by telling a kid to reject who they are they are only adding to the piles of bullying and depression common in LGBT youth?

Scream it to the world. If they do something such as expel you, the media WILL catch on. Don't think you don't have any allies. Otherwise embrace it and trust on the support of your parents, because that is the best support you have.

[Hakio]

AIDS is the result of heroin abuse, sir. It can be contracted during anal sex, which not all gay men do, and can just as easily be contracted from heterosexual anal sex which isn't an uncommon practice.

sodomy, homosexuality... both are sinful behaviors.

Avoiding sexual relations outside of marriage brings your chances of catching such a disease to near 0%.

Really, the Catholic Church should shove their homophobia right up their ass. Jesus didn't say jack shit about homosexuality, and the Old Testament homophobia is rendered void by the fulfillment brought by the coming of the Messiah. God doesn't hate anyone, and the sooner Catholics start to realize that, the better.

Who said anything about 'hate'?

So you are literally horrified by two men kissing. Tell me again conservatives about your thick skin.

[Fascist Russian Empire]

AIDS is the result of heroin abuse, sir. It can be contracted during anal sex, which not all gay men do, and can just as easily be contracted from heterosexual anal sex which isn't an uncommon practice.

sodomy, homosexuality... both are sinful behaviors.

Avoiding sexual relations outside of marriage brings your chances of catching such a disease to near 0%.

First off, no, no homosexuality is not sinful. Did Jesus say that homosexuals are going to hell? No, no he didn't. Did Moses say that they are? Yes, so Jews have the right to say that shit, but for a Christian to say it would be heresy.

Oh, and o, actually, it doesn't. People still get diseases even if they're married. I might not be a fan of pre-marital sex, but saying that married people don't get STD's is fucking bullshit.

[Vashta Nerada]

No, I highly doubt you know how I think because we've never met or spoken on a personal level. I use common sense to understand the fact that homosexuality is wrong no matter how you look at it. Even if you look at it from a religious or atheist point of view, homosexuality is unnatural regardless of your stance. At least with heterosexuality, there is an outcome that results from opposite sex relationships that benefit society. There is no such benefit with homosexuality. So I don't an excuse to speak about homosexuality. No excuse is needed. If I see something is wrong, I'm going to speak up about it. The only defense you have is that there is a large, vocal minority people with a lot of money and thus a lot of political power, pushing the issue in society, and push people to accept something that most of the world believes is wrong.

Society no longer requires the "benefit" of procreation. Overpopulation is a problem increasing in severity.

Homosexuality is triggered by epigenetic factors in the womb which, last I checked, isn't human-caused. And, even if it was... what, pray tell, defines how "natural" something is? After all, humans are a part of nature, as well- humans are animals, too, just ones with superior minds compared to the rest of Earth's organisms.

I've noticed this trend amoungst those fighting to promote their views of homosexuality. When their faced with an argument against nature or the "humans aren't animals" stance, then they use vague metaphors or long-winged philosophical statements to confuse or agitate their opponent. See, I like many others, believe homosexuality a mental illness of some sort, the same way many other maladies we humans are born with to be a result of human imperfection. I would assume you believe autism, cancer, and Siamese twins to be nature too, huh? I believe homosexuality is one of the many imperfections humans are faced with in society.