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Postby United Marxist Nations » Fri Mar 14, 2014 9:38 am

For the sake of clarification, putting someone on your list is not, in any way, an endorsement of that figure or their views, just an acknowledgement of their skill at public speaking.

There are, of course, different measures of skill in the field; however, one of the more used measures is use of rhetoric, and seeming to show great passion. For the record, the reason I don't give Cicero top spot is because I can't actually hear him speak, so our only sources are based on what historians said about his oratory skills.

My list of best orators. Not perfect because of a limited number of figures I've heard give orations.

1) MLK
2) Cicero
3) Adolf Hitler
4) Churchill
5) Mussolini.
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Postby Divair » Fri Mar 14, 2014 9:40 am

Neil deGrasse Tyson.
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Divair wrote:Neil deGrasse Tyson.

Certainly a solid pick.
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Postby Avenio » Fri Mar 14, 2014 9:47 am

Incitatus.
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Avenio wrote:Incitatus.

Nay, I say.
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Postby Divair » Fri Mar 14, 2014 9:50 am

Second place would have to be Cato the Elder.
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Postby Breadknife » Fri Mar 14, 2014 9:50 am

I've a feeling someone's going to say Nigel Farage. Can I get my retaliation in first and say that he's the most annoying public speaker I know? Thankyou.

But this isn't "worst public speakers", so, in no particular order, the first five that come to mind are...

In his prime, Patrick Moore. (Sorry to say that I found his last decade, perhaps, of decline a little hard to bear, but his knowlege helped him hold his own regardless.)

Magnus Pike. (Yes, it appears I'm going to be UK-centric.)

Jeremy Hardy.

Alan Coren.

Eddie Mair.

(Darnit, several others came to mind, but I said I'd stop at five.)
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Fri Mar 14, 2014 9:51 am

Divair wrote:Second place would have to be Cato the Elder.

I may have gotten him confused with Cicero, though, both were famous for their oration, right?
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Postby L Ron Cupboard » Fri Mar 14, 2014 9:52 am

Bill Clinton, Barack Obama, and Tony Benn should join the list.
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Fri Mar 14, 2014 9:53 am

L Ron Cupboard wrote:Bill Clinton, Barack Obama, and Tony Benn should join the list.

Never seen Tony Benn; the other two are good speakers, but I don't think they're that good.
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Postby Divair » Fri Mar 14, 2014 9:53 am

United Marxist Nations wrote:
Divair wrote:Second place would have to be Cato the Elder.

I may have gotten him confused with Cicero, though, both were famous for their oration, right?

Cato was famous for ending every speech with "And Carthage must be destroyed."
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Demosthenes. Or Cleon.
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Postby Lavan Tiri » Fri Mar 14, 2014 9:54 am

1) Jesus



2)Winston Churchill.
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Postby Themiclesia » Fri Mar 14, 2014 9:54 am

Divair wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:I may have gotten him confused with Cicero, though, both were famous for their oration, right?

Cato was famous for ending every speech with "And Carthage must be destroyed."

But legend also has it that Cato used props when he spoke -- figs.
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Fri Mar 14, 2014 9:54 am

Divair wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:I may have gotten him confused with Cicero, though, both were famous for their oration, right?

Cato was famous for ending every speech with "And Carthage must be destroyed."

Yeah, I know; probably should have put him just for that.
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Fri Mar 14, 2014 9:55 am

Lavan Tiri wrote:1) Jesus



2)Winston Churchill.

Damn, I should have put Churchill on there; going to change the lust just for him.
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Postby Allied States of Demokratia » Fri Mar 14, 2014 9:55 am

Bill Clinton and Ronald Regan.
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Postby Wolfmanne » Fri Mar 14, 2014 9:58 am

Jack Kennedy has to be somewhere in this list. Cicero was quite good as well. Can't really think of anyone else.
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Postby Vuuhn » Fri Mar 14, 2014 10:01 am

Wolfmanne wrote:Jack Kennedy has to be somewhere in this list. Cicero was quite good as well. Can't really think of anyone else.


And no one besides Lavan mentions Jesus?
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Postby L Ron Cupboard » Fri Mar 14, 2014 10:02 am

United Marxist Nations wrote:
L Ron Cupboard wrote:Bill Clinton, Barack Obama, and Tony Benn should join the list.

Never seen Tony Benn; the other two are good speakers, but I don't think they're that good.


They are both better than Reagan in my opinion, he was just an actor reading a script. Saw Clinton making a speech on TV when he was involved in the peace process in Ireland, absolutely mesmerising.
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Postby Shahansh » Fri Mar 14, 2014 10:04 am

Obama's a good recent one.
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Postby L Ron Cupboard » Fri Mar 14, 2014 10:06 am

Vuuhn wrote:
Wolfmanne wrote:Jack Kennedy has to be somewhere in this list. Cicero was quite good as well. Can't really think of anyone else.


And no one besides Lavan mentions Jesus?


How are we supposed to know if Jesus was a good public speaker?
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Postby L Ron Cupboard » Fri Mar 14, 2014 10:08 am

Nelson Mandela was also very good.
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