NATION

PASSWORD

Does God Exist?

For discussion and debate about anything. (Not a roleplay related forum; out-of-character commentary only.)

Advertisement

Remove ads

Is there a god?

Yes.
23
35%
Maybe.
9
14%
No.
34
52%
 
Total votes : 66

User avatar
Jagalonia
Senator
 
Posts: 4913
Founded: Jun 22, 2010
Ex-Nation

Postby Jagalonia » Wed Mar 05, 2014 6:20 am

Bezombia wrote:
Jagalonia wrote:If there's no god, how do you explain a sunset?

Checkmate, atheists.


If there's a god, how do you explain humans' lack of immunity to stepping on legos with bare feet?

Checkmate, christains.

If there's no god, why is it called the miracle of birth?
Tokyoni wrote:Hitler's mustache looks weird. Adam Smith was a drunken fatass. There, I've just pwned fascism and capitalism by such "logic".
Edlichbury wrote:OOC: If Knootoss can claim alcohol is a biological weapon, I can claim sentient Milk-People.
Senestrum wrote:Russians took the maximum allowable missile performances from the ABM treaty as design goals.
lolz ensued
Ifreann wrote:
Computer Land wrote:I don't want someone hacking my fridge :meh:

fridge.setTempC(100);
sysout("I'm melting! I'm meeeeelting! Oh what a world, what world!");
I'm Amish...Problem?
Unsigable. >.>
I am a Magnificent Titan who likes to Devour Heroes
All tech.

User avatar
Universal Socialism
Envoy
 
Posts: 264
Founded: Nov 13, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Universal Socialism » Wed Mar 05, 2014 6:21 am

Jagalonia wrote:
Universal Socialism wrote:
Your proof is invalid. A god isn't required for anything to function. Look around you and where do you see god or his work, or is all you see natural things that can be explained by science?

Anything you see around you can be explained by science and most of it has been already.

If there's no god, how do you explain a sunset?

Checkmate, atheists.


The Earth rotates. When the Earth turs away from the sun we lose sight of the sun and it creates what we call a sunset. Now I will have to assume you were being sarcastic.

User avatar
Alabamian Liberty
Lobbyist
 
Posts: 12
Founded: Feb 05, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby Alabamian Liberty » Wed Mar 05, 2014 6:21 am

I go with yes (a maybe kinda sorta yes, not a definite yes).

To be honest, I have no idea why. It seems so illogical that an omnipotent sky man created the world, but it just fits for me. It might just be more comforting to believe in everlasting life than to be nothing after death. Who knows?

User avatar
Desmendura
Minister
 
Posts: 2740
Founded: Oct 13, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Desmendura » Wed Mar 05, 2014 6:21 am

Universal Socialism wrote:Since there's no proof of a god, there is no rational reason to believe in one.

I'll have to agree with this guy. There is no proof so there is no reason to believe.
It's glad to be back after almost 3 months of inactivity!
---------------
---------------
---------------
...
I am:
An F&NI specialist
A Generalite (Not too much now however)
A Role-player
Extra stuffs include:
(-_Q) If you support Capitalism put this in your Signature
98% of all Internet users would cry if Facebook, Instagram, Vine, Kik and/or Twitter broke down. If you are part of that 2% who simply would sit back and laugh, if you are that two percent copy and paste into your sig.
LIKES: Capitalism, Libertarianism, Monarchism, Imperialism
NEUTRAL: Communism, Socialism, Fascism, and Feminism
DISLIKES: Gender Supremacy of any kind and Nazism

User avatar
Degenerate Heart of HetRio
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 10600
Founded: Feb 12, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Wed Mar 05, 2014 6:22 am

HorusLand wrote:
Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:Congratulations at being my first Orthodox friend that I know of. :lol:

Do i get a prize? :P

No, but I feel like this is another sign.

Anyway, now I'm sure I'm somewhat supposed at least to be close to you.
Pro: Communism/anarchism, Indigenous rights, MOGAI stuff, bodily autonomy, disability rights, environmentalism
Meh: Animal rights, non-harmful religion/superstition, militant atheism, left-leaning reform of capitalism
Anti: Dyadic superstructure (sex-gender birth designation and hierarchy), positivism, conservatism, imperialism, Zionism, Orientalism, fascism, religious right, bending to reactionary concerns before freedom/common concern, fraudulent beliefs and ideologies

Formerly "Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro".

Compass: -10.00, -9.13
S-E Ideology: Demc. Socialist (92% ditto/Marxist, 75% Anarchist/Social democrat, 0% etc)
S-E school of thought: Communist (100% ditto, 96% Post-Keynesian)

Though this says I'm a social democrat, I'm largely a left communist.

User avatar
Horusland
Postmaster of the Fleet
 
Posts: 21546
Founded: May 11, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Horusland » Wed Mar 05, 2014 6:22 am

Alabamian Liberty wrote:It might just be more comforting to believe in everlasting life than to be nothing after death.

I know. Religion comforts me in that way.
A series of strange bipolar phenomena collectively known as adolescence, taking over a nation formerly terrorizing NSG as an awkward and slightly braindead child.

User avatar
The Vekta-Helghast Empire
Negotiator
 
Posts: 5782
Founded: Jan 14, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby The Vekta-Helghast Empire » Wed Mar 05, 2014 6:23 am

Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:
The Vekta-Helghast Empire wrote:You're among the group of religious people I tend to enjoy the company of, you seem a bit more liberal than most, which is pleasant. (Especially when you come from an old-fashioned part of Scotland like I do and religion is stuffed down your throat at every turn. There's even a street in my town with 4 churches..)

LOL, I thought the UK was largely secularized.

But then even Norway and the Netherlands have their Bible Belts so it doesn't surprise me.


Yeah my area is pretty bad, in my Primary school we had a religious assembly every Friday and Wednesday where local priests and whatever would come in and give talks, then at the end you'd do a prayer. Until I was about 11 I thought everyone believed in God, since it wasn't until about then we actually started getting Religious education and I started to realize that it just wasn't what I believed in. Since then I've went from Christian -> Agnostic -> Athiest.

User avatar
Horusland
Postmaster of the Fleet
 
Posts: 21546
Founded: May 11, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Horusland » Wed Mar 05, 2014 6:23 am

Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:
HorusLand wrote:Do i get a prize? :P

No, but I feel like this is another sign.

Anyway, now I'm sure I'm somewhat supposed at least to be close to you.

Another sign of what? What exactly are you trying to find out/do/prove/verb? :/
confus
A series of strange bipolar phenomena collectively known as adolescence, taking over a nation formerly terrorizing NSG as an awkward and slightly braindead child.

User avatar
Degenerate Heart of HetRio
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 10600
Founded: Feb 12, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Wed Mar 05, 2014 6:24 am

Alabamian Liberty wrote:I go with yes (a maybe kinda sorta yes, not a definite yes).

To be honest, I have no idea why. It seems so illogical that an omnipotent sky man created the world, but it just fits for me. It might just be more comforting to believe in everlasting life than to be nothing after death. Who knows?

When you think of the end of existence or the end of your existence, you are wishing for God to exist, not properly believing in it consciously and rationally.

That is why I say I was never truly theistic.
Pro: Communism/anarchism, Indigenous rights, MOGAI stuff, bodily autonomy, disability rights, environmentalism
Meh: Animal rights, non-harmful religion/superstition, militant atheism, left-leaning reform of capitalism
Anti: Dyadic superstructure (sex-gender birth designation and hierarchy), positivism, conservatism, imperialism, Zionism, Orientalism, fascism, religious right, bending to reactionary concerns before freedom/common concern, fraudulent beliefs and ideologies

Formerly "Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro".

Compass: -10.00, -9.13
S-E Ideology: Demc. Socialist (92% ditto/Marxist, 75% Anarchist/Social democrat, 0% etc)
S-E school of thought: Communist (100% ditto, 96% Post-Keynesian)

Though this says I'm a social democrat, I'm largely a left communist.

User avatar
Horusland
Postmaster of the Fleet
 
Posts: 21546
Founded: May 11, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Horusland » Wed Mar 05, 2014 6:25 am

Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:
Alabamian Liberty wrote:I go with yes (a maybe kinda sorta yes, not a definite yes).

To be honest, I have no idea why. It seems so illogical that an omnipotent sky man created the world, but it just fits for me. It might just be more comforting to believe in everlasting life than to be nothing after death. Who knows?

When you think of the end of existence or the end of your existence, you are wishing for God to exist, not properly believing in it consciously and rationally.

That is why I say I was never truly theistic.

And at the same time, I really wish some parts of Christianity didn't exist. (In contrast to the wish of existing that you talked about.)
Last edited by Horusland on Wed Mar 05, 2014 6:25 am, edited 1 time in total.
A series of strange bipolar phenomena collectively known as adolescence, taking over a nation formerly terrorizing NSG as an awkward and slightly braindead child.

User avatar
The Vekta-Helghast Empire
Negotiator
 
Posts: 5782
Founded: Jan 14, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby The Vekta-Helghast Empire » Wed Mar 05, 2014 6:26 am

HorusLand wrote:
Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:When you think of the end of existence or the end of your existence, you are wishing for God to exist, not properly believing in it consciously and rationally.

That is why I say I was never truly theistic.

And at the same time, I really wish some parts of Christianity didn't exist.


I asume Leviticus is one of those parts, or at least most of it - (I think it's safe to say most of us agree that it's probably bad to have incest and beastiality, which is why I say most of it and not all of it).

User avatar
Degenerate Heart of HetRio
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 10600
Founded: Feb 12, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Wed Mar 05, 2014 6:28 am

HorusLand wrote:-snip-
Someone important to both of us leaves. Someone relevant to my approaching to that one meets age of majority. Your nation randomly gets a "revolution" with no explanation. You are the first one to be my friend with a religion from a part of the world I always thought of and gave the looks that it is the mostly culturally absent from my country. Aside something important in how I try to understand the events of my life and my dreams that I forgot right now, but I remember being important.

Ok, ok, I'm officially the most spiritual agnostic atheist secular humanist ever. :palm:
Pro: Communism/anarchism, Indigenous rights, MOGAI stuff, bodily autonomy, disability rights, environmentalism
Meh: Animal rights, non-harmful religion/superstition, militant atheism, left-leaning reform of capitalism
Anti: Dyadic superstructure (sex-gender birth designation and hierarchy), positivism, conservatism, imperialism, Zionism, Orientalism, fascism, religious right, bending to reactionary concerns before freedom/common concern, fraudulent beliefs and ideologies

Formerly "Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro".

Compass: -10.00, -9.13
S-E Ideology: Demc. Socialist (92% ditto/Marxist, 75% Anarchist/Social democrat, 0% etc)
S-E school of thought: Communist (100% ditto, 96% Post-Keynesian)

Though this says I'm a social democrat, I'm largely a left communist.

User avatar
Jagalonia
Senator
 
Posts: 4913
Founded: Jun 22, 2010
Ex-Nation

Postby Jagalonia » Wed Mar 05, 2014 6:28 am

The Vekta-Helghast Empire wrote:
HorusLand wrote:And at the same time, I really wish some parts of Christianity didn't exist.


I asume Leviticus is one of those parts, or at least most of it - (I think it's safe to say most of us agree that it's probably bad to have incest and beastiality, which is why I say most of it and not all of it).

I find it comical that that's where the bible thumpers take a chunk of their anti-gay nonsense from...
Tokyoni wrote:Hitler's mustache looks weird. Adam Smith was a drunken fatass. There, I've just pwned fascism and capitalism by such "logic".
Edlichbury wrote:OOC: If Knootoss can claim alcohol is a biological weapon, I can claim sentient Milk-People.
Senestrum wrote:Russians took the maximum allowable missile performances from the ABM treaty as design goals.
lolz ensued
Ifreann wrote:
Computer Land wrote:I don't want someone hacking my fridge :meh:

fridge.setTempC(100);
sysout("I'm melting! I'm meeeeelting! Oh what a world, what world!");
I'm Amish...Problem?
Unsigable. >.>
I am a Magnificent Titan who likes to Devour Heroes
All tech.

User avatar
Juggalo world
Chargé d'Affaires
 
Posts: 464
Founded: Feb 24, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby Juggalo world » Wed Mar 05, 2014 6:28 am

God exist just because some people feel they are to good to believe in him doesn't mean he doesn't exist.
MMFWCL Juggalo for life step to one and you step to them all don't mess with me and I won't mess with you I like psychopathic records if you don't then keep it to yourself.

User avatar
Degenerate Heart of HetRio
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 10600
Founded: Feb 12, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Wed Mar 05, 2014 6:30 am

The Vekta-Helghast Empire wrote:I asume Leviticus is one of those parts, or at least most of it - (I think it's safe to say most of us agree that it's probably bad to have incest and beastiality, which is why I say most of it and not all of it).

Most of us. I'm quite okay about most incest, and divided in some incest and in zoosexuality.

Anyway, mixing religion with sexual morality is bad.
Pro: Communism/anarchism, Indigenous rights, MOGAI stuff, bodily autonomy, disability rights, environmentalism
Meh: Animal rights, non-harmful religion/superstition, militant atheism, left-leaning reform of capitalism
Anti: Dyadic superstructure (sex-gender birth designation and hierarchy), positivism, conservatism, imperialism, Zionism, Orientalism, fascism, religious right, bending to reactionary concerns before freedom/common concern, fraudulent beliefs and ideologies

Formerly "Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro".

Compass: -10.00, -9.13
S-E Ideology: Demc. Socialist (92% ditto/Marxist, 75% Anarchist/Social democrat, 0% etc)
S-E school of thought: Communist (100% ditto, 96% Post-Keynesian)

Though this says I'm a social democrat, I'm largely a left communist.

User avatar
Bezombia
Postmaster of the Fleet
 
Posts: 29249
Founded: Apr 01, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Bezombia » Wed Mar 05, 2014 6:30 am

Juggalo world wrote:God exist just because some people feel they are to good to believe in him doesn't mean he doesn't exist.


Do you have any proof for that?
Our weary eyes still stray to the horizon...but down this road we've been so many times...
Please, call me Benomia. Post count +14623, founded Oct. 23, 2012.
Sauritican wrote:We've all been spending too much time with Ben
Verdum wrote:Hey girl, is your name Karl Marx? Because your starting an uprising in my lower classes.
Black Hand wrote:New plan is to just make thousands of disposable firearms and dump them out of cargo planes with tiny drag chutes attached.
Spreewerke wrote:The metric system is the only measurement system that truly meters.
Spreewerke wrote:Salt the women, rape the earth.
Equestican wrote:Ben is love, Ben is life.
Sediczja wrote:real eyes realize real lies
I'm a poet. Come read my poems!

User avatar
Horusland
Postmaster of the Fleet
 
Posts: 21546
Founded: May 11, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Horusland » Wed Mar 05, 2014 6:30 am

The Vekta-Helghast Empire wrote:
HorusLand wrote:And at the same time, I really wish some parts of Christianity didn't exist.


I asume Leviticus is one of those parts, or at least most of it - (I think it's safe to say most of us agree that it's probably bad to have incest and beastiality, which is why I say most of it and not all of it).

Bleh. I haven't read Leviticus (or any Bible-related book), but all that has been mentioned here from it was bad stuff and more bad stuff. :/
I just simplified religion for me and myself.
A series of strange bipolar phenomena collectively known as adolescence, taking over a nation formerly terrorizing NSG as an awkward and slightly braindead child.

User avatar
Jagalonia
Senator
 
Posts: 4913
Founded: Jun 22, 2010
Ex-Nation

Postby Jagalonia » Wed Mar 05, 2014 6:30 am

Juggalo world wrote:God exist just because some people feel they are to good to believe in him doesn't mean he doesn't exist.

It's not that we're too good. Well...I am...

It's more that we don't see a reason to believe in an omnipotent, omniscient being that exists outside of space and time...

Without going into the countless paradoxes within his character itself...
Tokyoni wrote:Hitler's mustache looks weird. Adam Smith was a drunken fatass. There, I've just pwned fascism and capitalism by such "logic".
Edlichbury wrote:OOC: If Knootoss can claim alcohol is a biological weapon, I can claim sentient Milk-People.
Senestrum wrote:Russians took the maximum allowable missile performances from the ABM treaty as design goals.
lolz ensued
Ifreann wrote:
Computer Land wrote:I don't want someone hacking my fridge :meh:

fridge.setTempC(100);
sysout("I'm melting! I'm meeeeelting! Oh what a world, what world!");
I'm Amish...Problem?
Unsigable. >.>
I am a Magnificent Titan who likes to Devour Heroes
All tech.

User avatar
The Vekta-Helghast Empire
Negotiator
 
Posts: 5782
Founded: Jan 14, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby The Vekta-Helghast Empire » Wed Mar 05, 2014 6:31 am

Juggalo world wrote:God exist just because some people feel they are to good to believe in him doesn't mean he doesn't exist.


What..? Because I feel I'm too good to believe in him? I used to be Christian myself, I just came to the conclusion that it wasn't for me - It was too far fetched for myself, however that's not to say that some day I may be proven incorrect. I never chose to not believe, it's simply how my mind functions.

User avatar
Jetan
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 13031
Founded: Mar 07, 2011
Iron Fist Consumerists

Postby Jetan » Wed Mar 05, 2014 6:32 am

Juggalo world wrote:God exist just because some people feel they are to good to believe in him doesn't mean he doesn't exist.

Prove it then.
Second Finn, after Imm
........Геть Росію.........
Україна вільна і єдина
From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me.
Beholder's Lair - a hobby blog
33 years old, patriotic Finnish guy interested in history. Hobbies include miniatures, all kinds of games, books, anime and manga.
Always open to TGs. Pro/Against

Ceterum autem censeo Putinem esse delendum

User avatar
Bezombia
Postmaster of the Fleet
 
Posts: 29249
Founded: Apr 01, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Bezombia » Wed Mar 05, 2014 6:33 am

Juggalo world wrote:God exist just because some people feel they are to good to believe in him doesn't mean he doesn't exist.


God doesn't exist. Just because some people feel that they aren't good enough to not believe in him doesn't mean he does exist.



Do you see why your logic is flawed?
Our weary eyes still stray to the horizon...but down this road we've been so many times...
Please, call me Benomia. Post count +14623, founded Oct. 23, 2012.
Sauritican wrote:We've all been spending too much time with Ben
Verdum wrote:Hey girl, is your name Karl Marx? Because your starting an uprising in my lower classes.
Black Hand wrote:New plan is to just make thousands of disposable firearms and dump them out of cargo planes with tiny drag chutes attached.
Spreewerke wrote:The metric system is the only measurement system that truly meters.
Spreewerke wrote:Salt the women, rape the earth.
Equestican wrote:Ben is love, Ben is life.
Sediczja wrote:real eyes realize real lies
I'm a poet. Come read my poems!

User avatar
Degenerate Heart of HetRio
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 10600
Founded: Feb 12, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Wed Mar 05, 2014 6:34 am

HorusLand wrote:And at the same time, I really wish some parts of Christianity didn't exist. (In contrast to the wish of existing that you talked about.)

Ikr. It only took me reading the Bible to see that maybe God not existing is better than the possibility otherwise anyway, and I saw that I don't really take the whole thing seriously and that I believe in science and rationalism to the most part. And I was 9.
Pro: Communism/anarchism, Indigenous rights, MOGAI stuff, bodily autonomy, disability rights, environmentalism
Meh: Animal rights, non-harmful religion/superstition, militant atheism, left-leaning reform of capitalism
Anti: Dyadic superstructure (sex-gender birth designation and hierarchy), positivism, conservatism, imperialism, Zionism, Orientalism, fascism, religious right, bending to reactionary concerns before freedom/common concern, fraudulent beliefs and ideologies

Formerly "Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro".

Compass: -10.00, -9.13
S-E Ideology: Demc. Socialist (92% ditto/Marxist, 75% Anarchist/Social democrat, 0% etc)
S-E school of thought: Communist (100% ditto, 96% Post-Keynesian)

Though this says I'm a social democrat, I'm largely a left communist.

User avatar
Horusland
Postmaster of the Fleet
 
Posts: 21546
Founded: May 11, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Horusland » Wed Mar 05, 2014 6:34 am

Jagalonia wrote:
The Vekta-Helghast Empire wrote:
I asume Leviticus is one of those parts, or at least most of it - (I think it's safe to say most of us agree that it's probably bad to have incest and beastiality, which is why I say most of it and not all of it).

I find it comical that that's where the bible thumpers take a chunk of their anti-gay nonsense from...

I find it idiotic that some people try to enforce their religion on people who don't have the same religion or the same ethics.
The irony is that they are harming people when doing that (sometimes).
A series of strange bipolar phenomena collectively known as adolescence, taking over a nation formerly terrorizing NSG as an awkward and slightly braindead child.

User avatar
Bezombia
Postmaster of the Fleet
 
Posts: 29249
Founded: Apr 01, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Bezombia » Wed Mar 05, 2014 6:36 am

Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:
HorusLand wrote:And at the same time, I really wish some parts of Christianity didn't exist. (In contrast to the wish of existing that you talked about.)

Ikr. It only took me reading the Bible to see that maybe God not existing is better than the possibility otherwise anyway, and I saw that I don't really take the whole thing seriously and that I believe in science and rationalism to the most part. And I was 9.


I considered myself an atheist by age 10. First time I went in a church was for my cousin's communion, and by the end of it I was like "this sucks, I wanna go home".
Obviously my position has been refined since then.
Our weary eyes still stray to the horizon...but down this road we've been so many times...
Please, call me Benomia. Post count +14623, founded Oct. 23, 2012.
Sauritican wrote:We've all been spending too much time with Ben
Verdum wrote:Hey girl, is your name Karl Marx? Because your starting an uprising in my lower classes.
Black Hand wrote:New plan is to just make thousands of disposable firearms and dump them out of cargo planes with tiny drag chutes attached.
Spreewerke wrote:The metric system is the only measurement system that truly meters.
Spreewerke wrote:Salt the women, rape the earth.
Equestican wrote:Ben is love, Ben is life.
Sediczja wrote:real eyes realize real lies
I'm a poet. Come read my poems!

User avatar
Degenerate Heart of HetRio
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 10600
Founded: Feb 12, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Wed Mar 05, 2014 6:39 am

Bezombia wrote:I considered myself an atheist by age 10. First time I went in a church was for my cousin's communion, and by the end of it I was like "this sucks, I wanna go home".

I was already agnostic rationally at age 7, when I started to feel bored and even annoyed by prayers and masses.
Pro: Communism/anarchism, Indigenous rights, MOGAI stuff, bodily autonomy, disability rights, environmentalism
Meh: Animal rights, non-harmful religion/superstition, militant atheism, left-leaning reform of capitalism
Anti: Dyadic superstructure (sex-gender birth designation and hierarchy), positivism, conservatism, imperialism, Zionism, Orientalism, fascism, religious right, bending to reactionary concerns before freedom/common concern, fraudulent beliefs and ideologies

Formerly "Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro".

Compass: -10.00, -9.13
S-E Ideology: Demc. Socialist (92% ditto/Marxist, 75% Anarchist/Social democrat, 0% etc)
S-E school of thought: Communist (100% ditto, 96% Post-Keynesian)

Though this says I'm a social democrat, I'm largely a left communist.

PreviousNext

Advertisement

Remove ads

Return to General

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Cole Whyte-Gurney, Enormous Gentiles, Great Britain-and Northern Ireland, Infected Mushroom, Philip Hansen Anselmo, Platypus Bureaucracy, Vrindi

Advertisement

Remove ads