Two Hearts Twice Divided: an Instalment [Open|OoC]

[Fretten]

That's what you think.
When I first joined I thought Halo tech was solo badass, until I realize how easily things from games with less story can just crash through it like wet tissue paper.

And you decided to look to the overused Helghast? Nevermind the fact that the only real "no" from Halo is the ground vehicles. Everything else is pretty good for PMT or FT nations.

I have not used anything but Helghast soldiers and weapons, not a single one of their vehicles. And the only real no about Halo is it's... ground vehicles? The concept of a Warthog is more feasible than a Shaw Fujisawa Translight Engine.

[New Frenco Empire]

And you decided to look to the overused Helghast? Nevermind the fact that the only real "no" from Halo is the ground vehicles. Everything else is pretty good for PMT or FT nations.

The Warthog could make a good FAV, I use it.

True. I used to use it as our armored car, before I realized how stupid it was in that role. I might bring it back for use in that fashion.

[New Frenco Empire]

And you decided to look to the overused Helghast? Nevermind the fact that the only real "no" from Halo is the ground vehicles. Everything else is pretty good for PMT or FT nations.

I have not used anything but Helghast soldiers and weapons, not a single one of their vehicles. And the only real no about Halo is it's... ground vehicles? The concept of a Warthog is more feasible than a Shaw Fujisawa Translight Engine.

Warthogs are feasible, but not a very good choice as an armored car or APC like in the games.

Not to mention, my Paris-class is used as an orbiting battleship used to engage satellites and space stations and fire cruise missiles at ground targets. My nation doesn't have FTL yet.

[Fretten]

I have not used anything but Helghast soldiers and weapons, not a single one of their vehicles. And the only real no about Halo is it's... ground vehicles? The concept of a Warthog is more feasible than a Shaw Fujisawa Translight Engine.

Warthogs are feasible, but not a very good choice as an armored car or APC like in the games.

Not to mention, my Paris-class is used as an orbiting battleship used to engage satellites and space stations and fire cruise missiles at ground targets. My nation doesn't have FTL yet.

But you said its ground vehicles, not just certain ones.
EDIT: My tablet is trigger happy.

[Oaledonia]

as an armored car or APC like in the games.

It's neither of those in the game.

[New Frenco Empire]

Warthogs are feasible, but not a very good choice as an armored car or APC like in the games.

Not to mention, my Paris-class is used as an orbiting battleship used to engage satellites and space stations and fire cruise missiles at ground targets. My nation doesn't have FTL yet.

But you said its ground vehicles, not just certain ones.
EDIT: My tablet is trigger happy.

For the role they play, they often are. Special cases, like the Scorpion, are just plain awful.

as an armored car or APC like in the games.

It's neither of those in the game.

They seemed to be deployed in that kind of fashion. Or the UNSC just plain lacks IFVs (unless you consider the Elephant to be one) and other things that would normally replace the Warthog in most of the scenarios it finds itself in.

[Fretten]

Apparently the Scorpion not only has the ability to take down aircraft, but beat the shut out of Alien tech on the ground.

It was fact in the books and obviously in the games the UNSC ground forces could defeat the Covenant, even though you say they have bad ground forces, but when they got to ace humanity was basically fucked...

[New Frenco Empire]

Apparently the Scorpion not only has the ability to take down aircraft, but beat the shut out of Alien tech on the ground.

It was fact in the books and obviously in the games the UNSC ground forces could defeat the Covenant, even though you say they have bad ground forces, but when they got to ace humanity was basically fucked...

But being good in the games doesn't mean anything. If the Abrams was in service in the 2500s, I'm sure they would have fared a whole lot better. I mean, more powerful gun, it's faster, a whole lot smaller...

[Fretten]

Apparently the Scorpion not only has the ability to take down aircraft, but beat the shut out of Alien tech on the ground.

It was fact in the books and obviously in the games the UNSC ground forces could defeat the Covenant, even though you say they have bad ground forces, but when they got to ace humanity was basically fucked...

But being good in the games doesn't mean anything. If the Abrams was in service in the 2500s, I'm sure they would have fared a whole lot better. I mean, more powerful gun, it's faster, a whole lot smaller...

I doubt it would take on aircraft, fire so quickly, and be able to take so many hits like... for instance... depleted Titanium A armor?

[Oaledonia]

I doubt it would take on aircraft, fire so quickly, and be able to take so many hits like... for instance... depleted Titanium A armor?

STAFF takes out aircraft, and it's guided. Then again; anything could take out those slow Banshees. Depleted Titanium A armor isn't explosive, and doesn't make sense.

Very Early WIP Arkbird

[The Soodean Imperium]

And you decided to look to the overused Helghast? Nevermind the fact that the only real "no" from Halo is the ground vehicles. Everything else is pretty good for PMT or FT nations.

I have not used anything but Helghast soldiers and weapons, not a single one of their vehicles. And the only real no about Halo is it's... ground vehicles? The concept of a Warthog is more feasible than a Shaw Fujisawa Translight Engine.

I do feel the need to point out here that, in my opinion, Helghast soldiers and weapons are heavily overused on NS, even more so than Halo tech. I've seen at least two nations claim to be "the" Helghast empire, I've been linked to this image at least four times (not counting now), and I can't even begin to count how many players I've seen who use Helghast armor in some shape or form. I would say that Helghast soldiers are to PMT what American military vehicles are to MT, but I've seen so many n00bs use Helghast in MT that I don't even know what to think anymore.

But bear in mind, this is coming from the highly biased opinion of someone who loves Eastern-bloc aesthetics and despises overly advanced technology. If you think Helghast tech looks cool, I understand. I just want to point out that in my experience it's very, very common.

[Ardavia]

I have not used anything but Helghast soldiers and weapons, not a single one of their vehicles. And the only real no about Halo is it's... ground vehicles? The concept of a Warthog is more feasible than a Shaw Fujisawa Translight Engine.

I do feel the need to point out here that, in my opinion, Helghast soldiers and weapons are heavily overused on NS, even more so than Halo tech. I've seen at least two nations claim to be "the" Helghast empire, I've been linked to this image at least four times (not counting now), and I can't even begin to count how many players I've seen who use Helghast armor in some shape or form. I would say that Helghast soldiers are to PMT what American military vehicles are to MT, but I've seen so many n00bs use Helghast in MT that I don't even know what to think anymore.

But bear in mind, this is coming from the highly biased opinion of someone who loves Eastern-bloc aesthetics and despises overly advanced technology. If you think Helghast tech looks cool, I understand. I just want to point out that in my experience it's very, very common.

Not to mention the fact that aside from the occasional case of hi-tech, like the hovertanks and the petrusite weapons, Helghast weapons are not very different from our own.

I used a lot of helghast stuff earlier, but then I realized, it's A) overused, B) ridiculously impractical, and now I'm working it out, except for using those closed suits of armour with breathing masks and whatnot for HAZMAT duty.

That armour will only serve to boil soldiers and provide nowhere near enough protection to justify it, the small arms are no different from normal firearms, and the high-tech can be replaced with more practical, less hilarious stuff, oh and the ground vehicles are basically junk. I'll admit it looks cool, but my nerdyness has made me forgo it in favour of things that are proven to work, without necessarily ruling out high-tech.

[Ardavia]

I doubt it would take on aircraft, fire so quickly, and be able to take so many hits like... for instance... depleted Titanium A armor?

STAFF takes out aircraft, and it's guided. Then again; anything could take out those slow Banshees. Depleted Titanium A armor isn't explosive, and doesn't make sense.

Very Early WIP Arkbird

I'm wondering what the hell "Depleted Titanium" is.

Is it a staballoy used for armour?

Is it depleted titanium (however the fuck that is made)?

Is it magic/handwavium?

[Horizont]

Very Early WIP Arkbird

...What is that thing?

It's freaking huge.

Regardless, I really want one now.

[Eaglleia]

Very Early WIP Arkbird

...What is that thing?

It's freaking huge.

Regardless, I really want one now.

Ace Combat?

[Horizont]

...What is that thing?

It's freaking huge.

Regardless, I really want one now.

Ace Combat?

I see.

Well, that's still awesome.

I want one even more now.

[Minroz]

I do feel the need to point out here that, in my opinion, Helghast soldiers and weapons are heavily overused on NS, even more so than Halo tech. I've seen at least two nations claim to be "the" Helghast empire, I've been linked to this image at least four times (not counting now), and I can't even begin to count how many players I've seen who use Helghast armor in some shape or form. I would say that Helghast soldiers are to PMT what American military vehicles are to MT, but I've seen so many n00bs use Helghast in MT that I don't even know what to think anymore.

But bear in mind, this is coming from the highly biased opinion of someone who loves Eastern-bloc aesthetics and despises overly advanced technology. If you think Helghast tech looks cool, I understand. I just want to point out that in my experience it's very, very common.

I'm one of the guys who thought Helghasts are cool. And I too love Eastern Bloc stuff particularly the Russians.

[Ardavia]

I do feel the need to point out here that, in my opinion, Helghast soldiers and weapons are heavily overused on NS, even more so than Halo tech. I've seen at least two nations claim to be "the" Helghast empire, I've been linked to this image at least four times (not counting now), and I can't even begin to count how many players I've seen who use Helghast armor in some shape or form. I would say that Helghast soldiers are to PMT what American military vehicles are to MT, but I've seen so many n00bs use Helghast in MT that I don't even know what to think anymore.

But bear in mind, this is coming from the highly biased opinion of someone who loves Eastern-bloc aesthetics and despises overly advanced technology. If you think Helghast tech looks cool, I understand. I just want to point out that in my experience it's very, very common.

I'm one of the guys who thought Helghasts are cool. And I too love Eastern Bloc stuff particularly the Russians.

The one thing that really bugged me regarding Killzone and the Helghast was that the Helghan colonists supposedly died in droves and were mutated by the atmosphere, and that they need the masks to survive, even after adapting to it.

Despite this, the ISA force spend two games(?), running around without protection and unaffected.

[Oaledonia]

Ace Combat?

I see.

Well, that's still awesome.

I want one even more now.

Beat you to it

[Horizont]

I see.

Well, that's still awesome.

I want one even more now.

Beat you to it

I'll make my own plethora of spaceplanes! with blackjack and hookers

[Oaledonia]

Beat you to it

I'll make my own plethora of spaceplanes! with blackjack and hookers

Bring it. I'm also into Orion lineart at the moment.

[Horizont]

I'll make my own plethora of spaceplanes! with blackjack and hookers

Bring it. I'm also into Orion lineart at the moment.

Mine is a little one-man thing to start with. They'll get much bigger.

spess race c'mon let's go then

[New Frenco Empire]

When you people lrn2psuedo-FT like me, you don't even need space-planes. Your super-multi role fighter can do it all and traverse orbit for you!

[Monfrox]

All this military wanking is boring me.

[New Frenco Empire]

All this military wanking is boring me.

Then don't join in on the (obviously playful) wanking?