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Postby Vorkova » Mon Jan 27, 2014 4:54 pm

Intaglio wrote:Yep, this thread turned out exactly how I thought it would

Expecting anything would be... heresy.

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Postby Fascist Russian Empire » Mon Jan 27, 2014 4:54 pm

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Liriena wrote:Who cares if the entire scientific community agrees that they are entitled to those rights

1: First, your statement is false.

2: Second, science has nothing to do with marriage.

3: Third, I disagree that marital recognition is a right.

1: No it ain't. All credible scientists agree that homosexuality is natural and that homosexuals are naturally entitled to equality.
2: Yes it does. Defying facts to satisfy opinions is illogical, and science proves things like interracial marriages don't cause harm, and the like.
3: Boo fucking hoo. That's your opinion and you have no right to force that opinion on everyone else.

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Postby Revitopia » Mon Jan 27, 2014 4:54 pm

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So what is the main purpose for sex then, and why is it developed?

Sexual reproduction developed as a method of reproduction that combined traits from the DNA of both parents to offer a more varied genetic selection to assist in the evolutionary process. Sex in and of itself is either something organisms are driven to do at certain times (ex. animals entering heat) or simply for pleasure, as the pleasure motivator of sex naturally leads to increased levels of sexual activity. Numerous species have sex purely for enjoyment, though humans have taken it further to also be an act of intimacy and devotion. So yes, there are still perfect reasons for same-sex couples to have sex.


Humans arent alone in that btw, there are many creatures that mate for life and fornicate as well as cuddle. Many birds, and dogs/wolves for example. As for whether thats what we call intimacy, well, I sure they ask themselves the same thing about us.


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Postby Blasveck » Mon Jan 27, 2014 4:55 pm

Christian Democrats wrote:
Vorkova wrote:Care to elaborate?

Marriage is a lot of things of which love is only one. It is also about "sex, reproduction, and family life." Because homosexual couples never copulate or reproduce, I don't believe their relationships should be considered marital.


They can have children.
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Postby The Scientific States » Mon Jan 27, 2014 4:55 pm

Wait, this thread is still going?
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Postby The High Guardians » Mon Jan 27, 2014 4:56 pm

The Scientific States wrote:Wait, this thread is still going?


Sadly...yes

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Postby Christian Democrats » Mon Jan 27, 2014 4:56 pm

Sibirsky wrote:
Christian Democrats wrote:Marriage is a lot of things of which love is only one. It is also about "sex, reproduction, and family life." Because homosexual couples never copulate or reproduce, I don't believe their relationships should be considered marital.

Should we annul heterosexual marriages involving infertile people?

The state shouldn't marry impotent people.
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Postby Fascist Russian Empire » Mon Jan 27, 2014 4:56 pm

Herrebrugh wrote:No. Gay Marrige is blasphemous to language in general.

Fucking really? You don't even have a legitimate reason, just because of fucking language?

Oh, and misspelling the word "Marriage" is a crime against the English language.

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Postby Aravea » Mon Jan 27, 2014 4:56 pm

The Scientific States wrote:Wait, this thread is still going?


Unsuprisingly yes it is.
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Postby The Fascist American Empire » Mon Jan 27, 2014 4:56 pm

Aravea wrote:Well the way I see it is in the eyes of my god I am just guilty and sinful as the rest of humanity. So what right do I have to condemn others when I too sin?

No sin is greater than any other, as the Scripture says.

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Postby The Scientific States » Mon Jan 27, 2014 4:57 pm

Christian Democrats wrote:
Sibirsky wrote:Should we annul heterosexual marriages involving infertile people?

The state shouldn't marry impotent people.


Why the hell not?
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Postby Aravea » Mon Jan 27, 2014 4:57 pm

The Fascist American Empire wrote:
Aravea wrote:Well the way I see it is in the eyes of my god I am just guilty and sinful as the rest of humanity. So what right do I have to condemn others when I too sin?

No sin is greater than any other, as the Scripture says.



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Postby Othelos » Mon Jan 27, 2014 4:57 pm

Christian Democrats wrote:
Sibirsky wrote:Should we annul heterosexual marriages involving infertile people?

The state shouldn't marry impotent people.

Homosexuals aren't impotent. We can reproduce just fine.

Besides, you could say the same for infertile hetero couples.
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Postby The Scientific States » Mon Jan 27, 2014 4:57 pm

Aravea wrote:
The Scientific States wrote:Wait, this thread is still going?


Unsuprisingly yes it is.


Unsurprisingly?

Usually these threads get locked because of all the damn trolling that goes on.
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Postby Fascist Russian Empire » Mon Jan 27, 2014 4:57 pm

The Scientific States wrote:
Christian Democrats wrote:The state shouldn't marry impotent people.


Why the hell not?

Because he thinks that his religious opinions qualifies him to decide whom can and cannot marry.

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Postby The Fascist American Empire » Mon Jan 27, 2014 4:58 pm

Christian Democrats wrote:
Sibirsky wrote:Should we annul heterosexual marriages involving infertile people?

The state shouldn't marry impotent people.

Again, straight and sterile people?

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Postby Tekania » Mon Jan 27, 2014 4:58 pm

Herrebrugh wrote:No. Gay Marrige is blasphemous to language in general.


Huh? Something cannot be blasphemous to language. Blasphemy is an act towards God, not language.
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Postby Risottia » Mon Jan 27, 2014 4:58 pm

Christian Democrats wrote:
Vorkova wrote:Care to elaborate?

Marriage is a lot of things of which love is only one. It is also about "sex, reproduction, and family life."

I see you support a routinely check by the Marriage Police on all married couples to see if they copulate at least once per month. The couple must have a complete penile-vaginal intercourse in from of two MP officers and five witnesses resulting in at least one orgasm per spouse, or divorce immediately.

Because homosexual couples never copulate or reproduce,

1.Homosexual couples do copulate.
2.Ever heard of adoption and of artificial insemination?
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Postby The Scientific States » Mon Jan 27, 2014 4:59 pm

Fascist Russian Empire wrote:
The Scientific States wrote:
Why the hell not?

Because he thinks that his religious opinions qualifies him to decide whom can and cannot marry.


The logic associated with these people is "Jesus said to love everyone. Except the gays,fuck them."
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Postby The Fascist American Empire » Mon Jan 27, 2014 4:59 pm

Fascist Russian Empire wrote:
The Scientific States wrote:
Why the hell not?

Because he thinks that his hypocritical, uneducated religious opinions that directly contradict the Bible qualifies him to decide whom can and cannot marry.


Hope you don't mind me adding stuff to further support your argument. :)

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Postby Anthony Willman » Mon Jan 27, 2014 4:59 pm

You are joking, right? The fall of the Roman Empire resulted from gay marriage being legalized.
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Postby Risottia » Mon Jan 27, 2014 4:59 pm

Tekania wrote:
Herrebrugh wrote:No. Gay Marrige is blasphemous to language in general.


Huh? Something cannot be blasphemous to language. Blasphemy is an act towards God, not language.


"marrige" is rather blasphemous to any eventual deity of the English language. I concur.
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Postby The Scientific States » Mon Jan 27, 2014 4:59 pm

Tekania wrote:
Herrebrugh wrote:No. Gay Marrige is blasphemous to language in general.


Huh? Something cannot be blasphemous to language. Blasphemy is an act towards God, not language.


He's being sarcastic.

Herrebrugh is gay himself.
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Anthony Willman wrote:You are joking, right? The fall of the Roman Empire resulted from gay marriage being legalized.


You are joking, right?
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Postby Christian Democrats » Mon Jan 27, 2014 5:00 pm

The Scientific States wrote:
Christian Democrats wrote:The state shouldn't marry impotent people.

Why the hell not?

Coitus is a necessary element of the marital relationship.
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