NationStates Tennis Tour Discussion Thread

by **Electrum** » Wed Jan 08, 2014 7:19 pm

NationStates Tennis Tour

Introduction and History
After several attempts of creating a tennis tour on these forums, it was in 2013-14 where various nations such as Ceni/Costa de Ouro, Britonisea, Kannap, Rarungan/Pemecutan and Electrum came together to create the Association of Tennis Professionals (ATP). It would become a regular series of tennis tournaments where the multiverse's best tennis athletes could compete against each other at the highest level in countries around the multiverse.

Ceni would be the President of the new tennis organisation. Tiered tournaments giving different level of points were played, with the Grand Slams and the World Tour Final giving the most points. In 2015, the first edition of the International Tennis Trophy was played. In 2016, the ATP changed its name to the NationStates Tennis Tour to differentiate itself from a similarly named tennis competition in a different plane of existence. More innovations would soon follow, such as the introduction of surface swings and the use of one thread to contain the roleplays and scores of multiple tournaments.

The tour, however, went into hiatus from late 2018 to April 2020. Only two non-NSTT tennis tournaments were played until the restart of competition in April 2020, in time for the sixth annual season of the NationStates Tennis Tour with Electrum at the helm. Now, there is a streamlined competition with seventeen tournaments across three surfaces scorinated by thirteen different nations/volunteers. New innovations that have been added include a roster so that athletes play style can be described, the ability for doubles players to come from different nations and the introduction of Tier 2 tournaments.

There are five swings of tournaments, which all share the same sign-up thread and the same roleplay thread. These are:

Outdoor hard court season
Clay court season
Grass court season
Indoor hard court season
End of season (no sign-up thread will be provided, all nations will be invited based on performance)

There are now three tiers of tournaments:

Tier 2: One of these tournaments is held at the start of each swing. These tournaments are limited to athletes below 500 points, with the winner taking home 500 points. Intended for new nations and lower-ranked players. Nations are limited to sending four singles players and two doubles pairs.
Tier 1: Open to all players, with a maximum of 1,000 points up for grabs. Nations are limited to sending four singles players and two doubles pairs.
Grand Slam: Open to all players, with a maximum of 2,000 points up for grabs. Nations are limited to sending eight singles players and four doubles pairs

There are also three special end of season tournaments:

International Tennis Trophy: Team event where each nation nominates two singles players and one doubles pair to compete in match-ups of three rubbers against other nations.
NSTT Finals: End of year competition that is open only to the top eight singles and doubles pairs. Round-robin competition with semifinals and a final.
NSTT Diamond Trophy: End of year competition that is open to sixteen additional singles and doubles pairs. Each nation will send at least one entrant to both disciplines, provided they have participated a reasonable amount throughout the year and do not have entrants in the NSTT Finals in the corresponding discipline.

Current rankings and schedule

by **Super-Llamaland** » Wed Jan 08, 2014 7:57 pm

The ranks aren't shared. Also, how hard would you estimate it to get a singles player to the top five?

by **Lzherusskia** » Thu Jan 09, 2014 10:54 am

A fine idea. I've been wanting to host a tournament of something for a while and, in the interests of helping get this rolling, I think tennis is a fine choice for it.

by **Anditia** » Thu Jan 09, 2014 1:45 pm

It says I need permission to see the ranks. Since you're using Google Docs, you'd have to set the sharing to "can view with link" or "public" but (I assume) make the editing privileges to read only.

by **Ceni** » Thu Jan 09, 2014 2:56 pm

Anditia wrote:It says I need permission to see the ranks. Since you're using Google Docs, you'd have to set the sharing to "can view with link" or "public" but (I assume) make the editing privileges to read only.

Super-Llamaland wrote:The ranks aren't shared. Also, how hard would you estimate it to get a singles player to the top five?

They should be edited now, however they are a WIP.

Llamaland, my advice would be to enter into as many tennis tournaments as there are and hope the scorinator agrees with you. There's really nothing to it except your devotion to your players, roleplays in the tennis competitions, and luck.

by **Anditia** » Mon Jan 13, 2014 11:00 am

I like the idea. Do you think that this should affect outcome of games?

Also, I think that it needs to be updated with the Second KITO being finished.

by **Ceni** » Mon Jan 13, 2014 3:21 pm

Anditia wrote:I like the idea. Do you think that this should affect outcome of games?

Also, I think that it needs to be updated with the Second KITO being finished.

Updated!

Also, I don't know if this would affect the outcome- I intended it to be more of a reference system, and it would be up to the host to decide whether this would affect their tournaments or not.

by **Levivania** » Mon Jan 13, 2014 7:09 pm

will the ranks be counted for past things like the ITA?

by **Ceni** » Tue Jan 14, 2014 7:04 am

Levivania wrote:will the ranks be counted for past things like the ITA?

No, we're starting fresh.

by **Ceni** » Sun Jan 26, 2014 11:27 am

Ranks updated for the 1st round of the Antillia Masters that was scorinated today.

by **Kannap** » Sun Jan 26, 2014 11:32 am

Ceni wrote:
Anditia wrote:I like the idea. Do you think that this should affect outcome of games?

Also, I think that it needs to be updated with the Second KITO being finished.

Updated!

Also, I don't know if this would affect the outcome- I intended it to be more of a reference system, and it would be up to the host to decide whether this would affect their tournaments or not.

This is a very much good idea, and I could try to incorporate the rankings here into the Third Kannapian International Tennis Open in April 2014

by **Ceni** » Sun Jan 26, 2014 12:39 pm

A tip for hosts,

In xkoranate where there is an option for skill- put in the ranking points, not the rank, as the skill. First you have to set the maximum skill to the number of rank points the highest ranked player has.

by **Britonisea** » Sun Jan 26, 2014 1:25 pm

Hi Ceni,

Can you change the New Koln Open to just The January Open.

by **Ceni** » Sun Jan 26, 2014 2:01 pm

Britonisea wrote:Hi Ceni,

Can you change the New Koln Open to just The January Open.

Sure, no prob

by **Ceni** » Tue Jan 28, 2014 11:02 am

Updated for latest results from Antillia Masters.

by **Super-Llamaland** » Fri Jan 31, 2014 6:50 pm

Nation Ranks for Kannap! NOTE: THIS IS NOT AN OFFICIAL METRIC OF THE ATP.

Anditia	126
Estope	88
Tobys Great Britain	81
Vakolic	66
Kannap	58
Zhenovia	51
Ceni	42
The Andromeda Islands	37
Britonisea	36
UNITED REPUBLIC	32
Patistan	18
New Koln	17
Felbah	16
New Tebow	3

by **Ceni** » Sat Feb 01, 2014 9:46 am

Super-Llamaland wrote:-snip-

Umm... I'm not sure how this is calculated, and so it will not be accepted as an official metric of the ATP. I'm sorry about that.

by **Super-Llamaland** » Sat Feb 01, 2014 10:01 am

Ceni wrote:
Super-Llamaland wrote:-snip-

Umm... I'm not sure how this is calculated, and so it will not be accepted as an official metric of the ATP. I'm sorry about that.

I know, I'm just putting it out. I took the total points a nation earned from the Kannapian Open.

by **Anditia** » Sat Feb 01, 2014 10:14 am

Rather than taking the sum of the rankings for each nation, why not take the mean per participant (that would normalize if a nation only sent one SPECTACULAR player vs. 4 lousy ones)

by **Britonisea** » Thu Feb 06, 2014 12:42 pm

Super-Llamaland wrote:Nation Ranks for Kannap! NOTE: THIS IS NOT AN OFFICIAL METRIC OF THE ATP.
Anditia	126
Estope	88
Tobys Great Britain	81
Vakolic	66
Kannap	58
Zhenovia	51
Ceni	42
The Andromeda Islands	37
Britonisea	36
UNITED REPUBLIC	32
Patistan	18
New Koln	17
Felbah	16
New Tebow	3

Oh! I do something like this.

by **Ceni** » Fri Feb 07, 2014 5:14 pm

Ranks have been updated for the Antillia Masters.

by **Ceni** » Wed Feb 12, 2014 6:03 pm

Updated for the first group stage of the LJI.

And there is a new ranking system for Grand Slams, that of 100 or more players.

First Round: 1 pt
Second Round: 30 pts
Third Round: 60 pts
Fourth Round: 100 pts
Quarterfinals: 150 pts
Semifinals: 200 pts
Finals: 240 pts
Winner: 300 pts

by **The greater Vakolicci Haven** » Thu Feb 13, 2014 7:40 am

Please post on the forum with the actual table of the ranks so that I can read them with a screen reading program that doesn't like docs.

by **Anditia** » Fri Feb 14, 2014 2:29 pm

Is there a way to get nation/trigramme associated with each player? I know it would be an effort, but it would be helpful.

by **Ceni** » Fri Feb 14, 2014 4:19 pm

Anditia wrote:Is there a way to get nation/trigramme associated with each player? I know it would be an effort, but it would be helpful.

I will add it to my long list of things to do.

Nation trigrams will be easily guessable like AND for Anditia or CDO for Costa de Ouro.

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