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by Vocenae » Fri Jan 24, 2014 4:38 pm
18:34 <Kyrusia> Voc: The one anchor of moral conscience in a sea of turbulent depravity.
by Vorkova » Fri Jan 24, 2014 4:40 pm
Vocenae wrote:This is not a thread for MT discussion, please take your conversation elsewhere unless you need help that is specific to FT.
by Ekoridge » Fri Jan 24, 2014 4:40 pm
Vorkova wrote:Ekoridge wrote:Well, now that I look at it, I mention the MBTs being anti-infantry and anti-air... maybe I got that mixed up, lol. Maybe the dual-barrel tanks could be used for anti-air, considering that a good portion of the enemy aircraft are fairly slow and bulky? I know I only need one tank design, but I liked the idea of a dual-barrel tank, but I also had a feeling that there would be unforeseen problems with the dual-barreled design (Considering there aren't any in use today, I took that as a sign that it wasn't the best idea(as you just confirmed))
So I went the safe route, and made a MBT that was fully operational and conventional, while keeping the dual-barrel for the 'futuristic/experimental' factor. Seeing as I don't need it as it is now, how could I adapt it to be useful?
You could replace the dual barrels with autocannons or Gatling guns and use it to defend against helicopters or low flying aircraft. Something like this, perhaps? You can use them for anti-personnel duty as well, and I don't think you mentioned a SPAAG anywhere. This is pretty good for a base as well - the missiles are definitely useful.
by Vorkova » Fri Jan 24, 2014 4:48 pm
Ekoridge wrote:Vorkova wrote:You could replace the dual barrels with autocannons or Gatling guns and use it to defend against helicopters or low flying aircraft. Something like this, perhaps? You can use them for anti-personnel duty as well, and I don't think you mentioned a SPAAG anywhere. This is pretty good for a base as well - the missiles are definitely useful.
Those are nice, and no, I don't have any 'SPAAG' as of yet. This is very good. Railgun and surface-to-air missiles for AA and tungsten canister shells for Anti-Personnel, maybe even some coaxial L'HMGs to-boot. Ooooh, I can definitely use that. I'll get working on something.
Thanks, Vorkova
by Avenio » Fri Jan 24, 2014 5:01 pm
Vorkova wrote:So FTL is generally considered the only dividing line? I always assumed PMT was the next decade (Rail guns, some cybernetics, ect), and anything that comes after is FT.
Ekoridge wrote:Well, in the RP I'm currently in, everyone's on the same planet. So the fact that I don't have FTL is not that important. Now that recently some nations have started exploring and colonizing other planets, that could definitely become more of a problem later on.
by Kyrusia » Fri Jan 24, 2014 5:03 pm
Vorkova wrote:Vocenae wrote:This is not a thread for MT discussion, please take your conversation elsewhere unless you need help that is specific to FT.
Just because this is FT doesn't mean you can't use MT vehicles as a base for something. We have to start somewhere, and he could easily be equipping his SPAAG with rail/laser cannons.
by Jovian Lunar Empire » Fri Jan 24, 2014 5:04 pm
by The Ben Boys » Fri Jan 24, 2014 5:39 pm
Jovian Lunar Empire wrote:I eschew FTL, but what I do is undeniably FT.
by Kyrusia » Fri Jan 24, 2014 5:56 pm
The Ben Boys wrote:Jovian Lunar Empire wrote:I eschew FTL, but what I do is undeniably FT.
Which is why when people say "It's not FT without FTL" (as an undeniable fact, that is) they fail to take into account that there are much more elements than just FTL. I'm currently outlining a single-system nation with an advanced space force, power armor, holograms, advanced drones, mega-cities, swords bordering on light sabers, but no FTL, yet it is undeniably FT.
Avenio wrote:Directed both to you and Ekoridge, but generally the dividing line between 'PMT and 'FT' is just the existence of faster-than-light travel of some sort, and nothing else. It's an intensely artificial dividing line, since there are lots of high science fiction works that involve travel between the stars, fantastical technologies, aliens and whatnot but don't have faster-than-light travel, but mechanistically and metafictionally it makes the most sense in a cooperative RP climate. If your given civilization has science fiction-degree technology but no FTL, your ability to RP with anyone without long interludes of cryosleep or what have you is basically limited to the setting of your solar system and nowhere else, and that gets difficult and boring to try and work around. If you don't have the ability to get to space at all, that limits your ability to RP even further, since anyone you want to RP with basically has to come to your planet and land in order to interact.
Which is fine, and I'm sure you could absolutely RP that if you had the skill and the sheer stubbornness to stick to it, but you should definitely weigh your ability to participate in the community and how much work/pain would be involved trying to cram your existing structure into the system in the balance when you're making writing about your civilization of choice.
by The Ben Boys » Fri Jan 24, 2014 6:17 pm
Kyrusia wrote:-snip-
by SquareDisc City » Fri Jan 24, 2014 6:46 pm
by The Torogian Collective » Fri Jan 24, 2014 6:57 pm
by New Tsavon » Fri Jan 24, 2014 6:58 pm
by The Torogian Collective » Fri Jan 24, 2014 7:00 pm
New Tsavon wrote:What's this thread's opinion on squad-level nuclear ordinance?
I ask because I want to know if it's alright to go ahead and issue nuclear LAW-type weapons to my infantry.
by New Tsavon » Fri Jan 24, 2014 7:02 pm
The Torogian Collective wrote:New Tsavon wrote:What's this thread's opinion on squad-level nuclear ordinance?
I ask because I want to know if it's alright to go ahead and issue nuclear LAW-type weapons to my infantry.
You're carrying around a radiation leaking weapon that your soldiers have readily available that'll level a city block.
It's called the Davy Crockett. Just a little smaller.
by The Torogian Collective » Fri Jan 24, 2014 7:06 pm
New Tsavon wrote:The Torogian Collective wrote:You're carrying around a radiation leaking weapon that your soldiers have readily available that'll level a city block.
It's called the Davy Crockett. Just a little smaller.
Tsavonian troops are wearing fully enclosed, radiation sealed powered armor. Irradiation isn't really a problem. Besides, its 2200 or so. AntiRad medications are a thing.
Anyways, said nuclear LAW would be a tad more compact than that thing.
by -The Unified Earth Governments- » Fri Jan 24, 2014 7:13 pm
Kyrusia wrote:-The Unified Earth Governments- wrote:I do, but I felt like giving him some of my opinions on the issue and answer him.
He does think I listen to him or care about him after all, so why not entertain the idea?
But it is a pointless argument regardless,s lets all continue with meaningful stuff.
I don't think you understand, I take your advice, but I won't associate with the group at large because of multiple reasons, people like Dread being one of them.
Your not getting rid of me, I want advice, I want to give advice, get a Mod to get rid of me if you want me gone.
Its funny that your thinking I am starting the argument, even though I didn't, let alone that you think this while not even bothering to read.
Now there are people who are looking for advice, are you going to do what your title implies?
As per my understanding of the my presumably granted authority as original poster within a thread within the International Incidents board of the Diplomacy sub-forum, I politely wish for you (i.e. the player behind the account -The Unified Earth Governments-) to cease any and all further posting within this thread as it is found within the attached quoted post you seem to be incapable of calmly discussing relevant topics without resorting to vitriolic implications and otherwise detrimental patterns of disruption. If you feel you can continue without making generalizations or sweeping implications as to either the motivations or conduct of other players, I have no issue with your continued posting; however, in a mere three pages, your posts have, as of yet, seemed unnecessarily hostile and disruptive.
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by The Torogian Collective » Fri Jan 24, 2014 7:16 pm
The Torogian Collective wrote:Now that I've planned out my collective of races more and started something, I've decided to head to the final step, my military.
So, could someone give me a name of a weapon that is recoilless and uses energy that isn't lasers or particle beams? I'm stumped. The most respected race is very fragile, and needs weapons that aren't recoilless so that they don't break their arms doing stuff.
(It's Canuck, by the way.)
by Vorkova » Fri Jan 24, 2014 7:18 pm
Kyrusia wrote:By definition, this is off-topic. Please, in the future, constrain your posting to directly responding-to advice or assistance or attempting-to-convey advice or assistance in direct relation to Future Technology.
by OMGeverynameistaken » Fri Jan 24, 2014 7:21 pm
Vorkova wrote:Kyrusia wrote:By definition, this is off-topic. Please, in the future, constrain your posting to directly responding-to advice or assistance or attempting-to-convey advice or assistance in direct relation to Future Technology.
Sorry. I tend to ramble at times.
While I'm here I wanted to ask this: Dreadnoughts! Is there any logical reason why building them instead of five battleships is a good idea?
by The Torogian Collective » Fri Jan 24, 2014 7:22 pm
Vorkova wrote:Kyrusia wrote:By definition, this is off-topic. Please, in the future, constrain your posting to directly responding-to advice or assistance or attempting-to-convey advice or assistance in direct relation to Future Technology.
Sorry. I tend to ramble at times.
While I'm here I wanted to ask this: Dreadnoughts! Is there any logical reason why building them instead of five battleships is a good idea?
by The Ben Boys » Fri Jan 24, 2014 7:23 pm
Vorkova wrote:Kyrusia wrote:By definition, this is off-topic. Please, in the future, constrain your posting to directly responding-to advice or assistance or attempting-to-convey advice or assistance in direct relation to Future Technology.
Sorry. I tend to ramble at times.
While I'm here I wanted to ask this: Dreadnoughts! Is there any logical reason why building them instead of five battleships is a good idea?
by -The Unified Earth Governments- » Fri Jan 24, 2014 7:26 pm
The Torogian Collective wrote:New Tsavon wrote:Tsavonian troops are wearing fully enclosed, radiation sealed powered armor. Irradiation isn't really a problem. Besides, its 2200 or so. AntiRad medications are a thing.
Anyways, said nuclear LAW would be a tad more compact than that thing.
I would imagine.
Yeah, of course. But it's the same concept. Imagine a thicker (Probably 4x) LAW and it having the same bomb as the Davy Crockett. BAM! You've got yourself a squad-level mobile artillery weapon.
Use it wisely.
Vorkova wrote:Kyrusia wrote:By definition, this is off-topic. Please, in the future, constrain your posting to directly responding-to advice or assistance or attempting-to-convey advice or assistance in direct relation to Future Technology.
Sorry. I tend to ramble at times.
While I'm here I wanted to ask this: Dreadnoughts! Is there any logical reason why building them instead of five battleships is a good idea?
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by Vorkova » Fri Jan 24, 2014 7:27 pm
The Torogian Collective wrote:Vorkova wrote:Sorry. I tend to ramble at times.
While I'm here I wanted to ask this: Dreadnoughts! Is there any logical reason why building them instead of five battleships is a good idea?
Can your dreadnought take as much damage as five battleships? Can it dish out as much damage as five battleships? Or is it just a symbol of hope in your nation, so that civilians can look upon something awe inspiring, while five battleships do the work.
OMGeverynameistaken wrote:Vorkova wrote:Sorry. I tend to ramble at times.
While I'm here I wanted to ask this: Dreadnoughts! Is there any logical reason why building them instead of five battleships is a good idea?
Because you can't equip a battleship with a mile long solid gold ramming prow in the shape of a two headed eagle.
The Ben Boys wrote:Vorkova wrote:Sorry. I tend to ramble at times.
While I'm here I wanted to ask this: Dreadnoughts! Is there any logical reason why building them instead of five battleships is a good idea?
The same reason for the arms race leading to World War I: large weapons that could gut said five battleships, morale factor, testbed for new ideas, flagship for both fleets and operations, and it's cool.
by -The Unified Earth Governments- » Fri Jan 24, 2014 7:28 pm
Vorkova wrote:The Torogian Collective wrote:Can your dreadnought take as much damage as five battleships? Can it dish out as much damage as five battleships? Or is it just a symbol of hope in your nation, so that civilians can look upon something awe inspiring, while five battleships do the work.
They are usually quite a bit more powerful than their equivalent number of battleships.OMGeverynameistaken wrote:Because you can't equip a battleship with a mile long solid gold ramming prow in the shape of a two headed eagle.
You are very right.The Ben Boys wrote:The same reason for the arms race leading to World War I: large weapons that could gut said five battleships, morale factor, testbed for new ideas, flagship for both fleets and operations, and it's cool.
All completely true. You are correct about dreadnoughts being cool as well. I mean, who could hate this?
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