Nigeria denies fundamental rights to homosexuals

[Luveria]

Marrying kids and slicing up vaginas. That's all fine and dandy, but two men loving each other, nope.

CLEARLY that would destroy the moral fabric of Nigeria. We can't let the gays practice their evil ways
*he sarcastically says*

The sad thing is there are people who actually believe that non-sarcastically.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Let's just throw straights into the meat grinder then, to preserve the gays.

It must have been great when people could dodge getting drafted just by claiming they were gay.

It wasn't the only excuse.

[Luveria]

It must have been great when people could dodge getting drafted just by claiming they were gay.

It wasn't the only excuse.

No, but it was the best one.

[Sealand of America]

In which case I would gladly support Nigeria, if the Western countries are that stupid.

You better go enlist in the Nigerian military if you will support Nigeria in that conflict.

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It must not be worth dying for if your not willing to take the same risk. 10 years in the service taught me that. War is not halo there is no reset.

What logical fallacy was this one I use to know a link would be nice.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

It wasn't the only excuse.

No, but it was the best one.

Children and marriage were also a good excuse. Why do you think the baby boomers were called baby boomers?

[Big Jim P]

CLEARLY that would destroy the moral fabric of Nigeria. We can't let the gays practice their evil ways
*he sarcastically says*

The sad thing is there are people who actually believe that non-sarcastically.

Indeed.

[Luveria]

You better go enlist in the Nigerian military if you will support Nigeria in that conflict.

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What logical fallacy was this one I use to know a link would be nice.

I'm not finding it for you. That's not how NSG works.

No, but it was the best one.

Children and marriage were also a good excuse. Why do you think the baby boomers were called baby boomers?

I really don't see what's so bad about someone saying "sorry, sir, I'm just too gay to be drafted."

[Autera]

You better go enlist in the Nigerian military if you will support Nigeria in that conflict.

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What logical fallacy was this one I use to know a link would be nice.

Your logical fallacy is a fantastic site. Everyone'll flock to you by the thousands now.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

I really don't see what's so bad about someone saying "sorry, sir, I'm just too gay to be drafted."

Because the gay excuse was not really something you wanted, and officers were getting sick and tired of it.

[Sealand of America]

This leads me to ask a question: Just how many nations that would potentially invade Nigeria over this even allow gays to serve?

That's because they don't want gay people risking their lives. There aren't many gay people compared to straight people, so it's understandable that governments want their gay citizens to stay at home where they are safe.

Yes they can help repopulate after the war.

[Luveria]

That's because they don't want gay people risking their lives. There aren't many gay people compared to straight people, so it's understandable that governments want their gay citizens to stay at home where they are safe.

Yes they can help repopulate after the war.

Yes they sure can by adopting children.

[Autera]

That's because they don't want gay people risking their lives. There aren't many gay people compared to straight people, so it's understandable that governments want their gay citizens to stay at home where they are safe.

Yes they can help repopulate after the war.

Can't tell if serious or not..

But yes, the gays are a precious jewel that have to be left untouched by such barbaric warefare.

[Sealand of America]

What logical fallacy was this one I use to know a link would be nice.

Your logical fallacy is a fantastic site. Everyone'll flock to you by the thousands now.

My hero

[Luveria]

Yes they can help repopulate after the war.

Can't tell if serious or not..

But yes, the gays are a precious jewel that have to be left untouched by such barbaric warefare.

They really are precious.

[Sealand of America]

Yes they can help repopulate after the war.

Yes they sure can by adopting children.

Why just adopt that's discrimination due to advances they can do it naturally to. Such as artificial insemination. Like the movie that starred Arnold Schwarzenegger.

[Luveria]

Yes they sure can by adopting children.

Why just adopt that's discrimination due to advances they can do it naturally to. Such as artificial insemination.

Yes... two gay men are going to get artificially inseminated...

[Socialist Tera]

Yes they sure can by adopting children.

Why just adopt that's discrimination due to advances they can do it naturally to. Such as artificial insemination. Like the movie that starred Arnold Schwarzenegger.

You can't be serious... Don't you understand human reproduction?

[Big Jim P]

Can't tell if serious or not..

But yes, the gays are a precious jewel that have to be left untouched by such barbaric warefare.

They really are precious.

Not worth yet another foreign war though.

[Imperium Sidhicum]

Because it would be counter-productive to the very purpose of your intervention. Right now, it's just spontaneous lynchings and random arrests, but it would surely devolve into worse. Even disregarding the homos, a foreign intervention would most likely spark a full-blown civil war between ethnic and religious groups, requiring even more forces and resources to even have a chance of putting down, not to mention the potential of a spillover in neighboring regions which too aren't famous for stability.

Now, another issue - how would you ECONOMICALLY justify such an expensive operation to your cabinet and political supporters, let alone the common rabble most of whom don't give a fuck about your crusade to begin with? Let's not forget that this is still a democracy that you're running, unless we assume you have somehow managed to install yourself as a dictator-for-life.

So, how would you convince the senators, the ministers, the generous businessmen who sponsored your election campaign, and the common folk that this intervention is necessary, asides from some touchy-feely moral obligation to help the oppressed? How would you persuade them that it is economically-justified to sacrifice a considerable portion of your national budget and thousands of your soldiers to liberate an oppressed minority group in the ass end of the world?

You would be asked questions like "Are the Nigerian gays a powerful and influential group, i.e., are they worthwhile saving, will they be able to contribute something for us in return?" Oil magnates who also happen to be among your most generous sponsors will be concerned about their billions-worth assets and investments in Nigeria which would surely suffer as a result of war. A shitload of other major investors who have outsourced their factories or obtained mining concessions in Nigeria will ask you the same thing. You will have to persuade your congressmen and senators to approve the budget with a massive increase in military spending. You will have to persuade your allies, most of whom are none too interested in entering another war on your behalf. And lastly, you will have to explain to the voters why their tax money should go on liberating queers overseas rather than education, welfare or healthcare here at home.

Of course, you could do it the old-fashioned way and announce that liberation of gays is just a pretext to conquer Nigeria and force your interpretation of human rights law on the natives while bleeding their country dry of all natural resources down to the last blade of grass. I doubt it would win you much support with the more idealistic population though. So you'd have to think up some bullshit that sounds plausible enough for the average sheeple and your more intelligent sponsors alike.

And most importantly, you have no room for failure - if you fuck up, you'll spend the rest of your days painting cats and vases in your private retreat, having lost your one chance to make the world a better place.

So how would you do all that, given a chance?

The defence industry lobby is on my side.

Alright, you have won the support of a bunch of greedy capitalists who don't care in the least who or why gets killed by their products as long as they get the state contracts, i.e., get paid from the tax money. But what about the taxpayers themselves? How will you convince them that all this war isn't just another get-rich-quick scheme of some corporate fat-cat defense contractors?

This one's gonna be tough. Most people don't give a damn about queers and their rights either way because they have more pressing concerns in their lives (such as how to pay their bills and feed their families). Moreover, it's their sons who will be dying for some no-good queers in some godforsaken far-away land that most of them couldn't even find on a map. How will you persuade them that their sacrifice is important, that liberating the poor and oppressed abroad is more important than feeding their children and having their sons come home alive and well?

All of that would be fairly easily done in a dictatorship (although even there things best are handled with care), where nobody cares what the common rabble think to begin with, but I understand you much rather prefer democracy, where heavy-handed propaganda and making a few gruesome examples just won't cut it.

Not to mention that there's a whole other bunch of industrialists besides defense contractors, whom you must convince to support your crusade for liberty while taking into account their economic interests (because most of them sure seem to lack your idealistic motivations).

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I'm just trying to illustrate in a very crude and basic level the difficulties that an actual politician would have to face in order to launch a military intervention for an insignificant cause.

[Terra Sector Union]

Why just adopt that's discrimination due to advances they can do it naturally to. Such as artificial insemination.

Yes... two gay men are going to get artificially inseminated...

It's possible, with vaginal organ implant.

[Pope Joan]

They have set up sting operations in the north to entrap gays.

Once entrapped, they are in custody and are tortured in order to get the names of others who are gay.

AIDS counselors are being arrested and prosecuted.

This is per the CBC show "As It Happens", last night.

[Sealand of America]

Why just adopt that's discrimination due to advances they can do it naturally to. Such as artificial insemination.

Yes... two gay men are going to get artificially inseminated...

In Nigeria?

[Luveria]

Yes... two gay men are going to get artificially inseminated...

It's possible, with vaginal organ implant.

Source?

The defence industry lobby is on my side.

Alright, you have won the support of a bunch of greedy capitalists who don't care in the least who or why gets killed by their products as long as they get the state contracts, i.e., get paid from the tax money. But what about the taxpayers themselves? How will you convince them that all this war isn't just another get-rich-quick scheme of some corporate fat-cat defense contractors?

This one's gonna be tough. Most people don't give a damn about queers and their rights either way because they have more pressing concerns in their lives (such as how to pay their bills and feed their families). Moreover, it's their sons who will be dying for some no-good queers in some godforsaken far-away land that most of them couldn't even find on a map. How will you persuade them that their sacrifice is important, that liberating the poor and oppressed abroad is more important than feeding their children and having their sons come home alive and well?

All of that would be fairly easily done in a dictatorship (although even there things best are handled with care), where nobody cares what the common rabble think to begin with, but I understand you much rather prefer democracy, where heavy-handed propaganda and making a few gruesome examples just won't cut it.

Not to mention that there's a whole other bunch of industrialists besides defense contractors, whom you must convince to support your crusade for liberty while taking into account their economic interests (because most of them sure seem to lack your idealistic motivations).

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I'm just trying to illustrate in a very crude and basic level the difficulties that an actual politician would have to face in order to launch a military intervention for an insignificant cause.

It worked for Bush.

[Luveria]

They really are precious.

Not worth yet another foreign war though.

To some people they are.

They have set up sting operations in the north to entrap gays.

Once entrapped, they are in custody and are tortured in order to get the names of others who are gay.

AIDS counselors are being arrested and prosecuted.

This is per the CBC show "As It Happens", last night.

It's going to continue getting worse.

Yes... two gay men are going to get artificially inseminated...

In Nigeria?

I don't know what you are trying to get at.

[Big Jim P]

Not worth yet another foreign war though.

To some people they are.

They have set up sting operations in the north to entrap gays.

Once entrapped, they are in custody and are tortured in order to get the names of others who are gay.

AIDS counselors are being arrested and prosecuted.

This is per the CBC show "As It Happens", last night.

It's going to continue getting worse.

In Nigeria?

I don't know what you are trying to get at.

Then let those people go and fight.