NS infantry discussion thread. Mark II

[Kouralia]

Dear god, modern warfare is geared towards reducing casualties right? I just saw a video of a head shot in Syria and threw up, it's good that my snipers are trained to obtain an efficiency kill instead of actually killing?

You should see the video of some FSA terrorists getting hit by a tank shell fired through some walls. Takes one guys face right off.

Or the nutshot one?

[Kaledy]

Is that the 264 Warrior Magnum?

Nope, it's something else entirely. The info on the cartridge is in the following thread, although it's scattered throughout it: http://forums.delphiforums.com/autogun/ ... msg=5720.1

Thank you very much. It is a very good read and it seemslike it would be an extremely useful ntermediate cartridge.

A pity I don't know what it would look like. Perhaps I should try my hands at making up the shape of it myself.

[Ulfr-Reich]

Nope, it's something else entirely. The info on the cartridge is in the following thread, although it's scattered throughout it: http://forums.delphiforums.com/autogun/ ... msg=5720.1

Thank you very much. It is a very good read and it seemslike it would be an extremely useful ntermediate cartridge.

A pity I don't know what it would look like. Perhaps I should try my hands at making up the shape of it myself.

I would love to see a Kaledite shotgun, anti-tank rifle and other such devices.

[Swedish Democratic Republic]

Here are the weapons that my nation are currently using:

http://www.nationstates.net/nation=swed ... /id=204083

Any thoughts?

More will be added in due time, There are some experimental weapons that i will put up, For example.

[The Soodean Imperium]

New Page Question:

Sharpshooters/Marksmen: What's your doctrine for them? One per squad? Per platoon?

Generally, the Soodean Ground Forces assign one marksman (armed with SVD rifle) per platoon, though some specialized units have one per squad.

Snipers (armed with some bolt-action rifle I haven't decided on yet) are grouped together into a squad-sized unit at the Battalion level, and can either operate independently (sniper + spotter) or be attached to a fighting unit.

[Kaledy]

Thank you very much. It is a very good read and it seemslike it would be an extremely useful ntermediate cartridge.

A pity I don't know what it would look like. Perhaps I should try my hands at making up the shape of it myself.

I would love to see a Kaledite shotgun, anti-tank rifle and other such devices.

I will do my best not to disappoint.

[Kaledy]

Here are the weapons that my nation are currently using:

http://www.nationstates.net/nation=swed ... /id=204083

Any thoughts?

More will be added in due time, There are some experimental weapons that i will put up, For example.

Interesting. Strange combination of contemporary and WW2. How many rounds does the V1 Rifle carry?

Your shotguns don't look robust enough to me.

[Ulfr-Reich]

Here are the weapons that my nation are currently using:

http://www.nationstates.net/nation=swed ... /id=204083

Any thoughts?

More will be added in due time, There are some experimental weapons that i will put up, For example.

Interesting. Strange combination of contemporary and WW2. How many rounds does the V1 Rifle carry?

Your shotguns don't look robust enough to me.

I've always wondered, what is that "pulse blast" type energy emission the Daleks use to fry people in their skins, haven't you?

[Bezombia]

Here are the weapons that my nation are currently using:

http://www.nationstates.net/nation=swed ... /id=204083

Any thoughts?

More will be added in due time, There are some experimental weapons that i will put up, For example.

There's quite a few problems, but the one I'd say needs addressing most is that that AT rifle won't come close to operating.

[Swedish Democratic Republic]

Here are the weapons that my nation are currently using:

http://www.nationstates.net/nation=swed ... /id=204083

Any thoughts?

More will be added in due time, There are some experimental weapons that i will put up, For example.

Interesting. Strange combination of contemporary and WW2. How many rounds does the V1 Rifle carry?

Your shotguns don't look robust enough to me.

The magazine holds 5 rounds for the V1 Rifle. The V1 Carbine holds 30 rounds.

The shotgun is pretty flimsy indeed, I am looking for another design to replace it. If you have any suggestions, Do let me know.

Here are the weapons that my nation are currently using:

http://www.nationstates.net/nation=swed ... /id=204083

Any thoughts?

More will be added in due time, There are some experimental weapons that i will put up, For example.

There's quite a few problems, but the one I'd say needs addressing most is that that AT rifle won't come close to operating.

The AT-rifle is as i said, Not a true bolt action design, It uses a gas operated system that when a shot is fired pushes the handle up automatically, When you pull it down a new round is pushed into the chamber, A new semi-automatic system is being designed to replace it. It is a very unusual and strange design, That we can deffinitely agree on.

[Kaledy]

Interesting. Strange combination of contemporary and WW2. How many rounds does the V1 Rifle carry?

Your shotguns don't look robust enough to me.

The magazine holds 5 rounds for the V1 Rifle. The V1 Carbine holds 30 rounds.

The shotgun is pretty flimsy indeed, I am looking for another design to replace it. If you have any suggestions, Do let me know.

If you like a onorthodox shotgun design, why not go for something like the ENARM Pentagun?


Or perhaps the Franchi mod .410?

[Kaledy]

I am so going to use the ENARM Pentagun as a basis for my Kaled-shotgun. Next to a ordinary shotgun configuration because shotguns are already very Kaled-y.

[Kaledy]

The AT-rifle is as i said, Not a true bolt action design, It uses a gas operated system that when a shot is fired pushes the handle up automatically, When you pull it down a new round is pushed into the chamber, A new semi-automatic system is being designed to replace it. It is a very unusual and strange design, That we can deffinitely agree on.

It would never work. And even if it would, this configuration does not suit a .50 rifle.

Make it either a bullpup design or a ordinary one. That way you could also use it as a heavy sniper.

And if you have a modern day army, name it an anti material weapon instead. A .50 will not be able to take out a contemporary tank.
I think when designing your own weapon, you will have to take a closer look at weapons that are actually real and work.

I don't think your AT rifle or your shotgun would.

[Yes Im Biop]

You should see the video of some FSA terrorists getting hit by a tank shell fired through some walls. Takes one guys face right off.

Or the nutshot one?

Guy at 73 eastings got blasted by a Sabot at 35 meters. Not sure how much of him was left

[Purpelia]

If you like a onorthodox shotgun design, why not go for something like the ENARM Pentagun?

This makes me think. Would there be a way to adapt such a design to fire normal rounds? How many does that drum hold? And how many normal bullets do you think could fit in there? Also, no I am not thinking of a revolver rifle. Rather, I imagine some sort of push through mechanism like in a machine gun that ensures each bullet is safely sealed inside the chamber before firing.

[Kaledy]

If you like a onorthodox shotgun design, why not go for something like the ENARM Pentagun?

This makes me think. Would there be a way to adapt such a design to fire normal rounds? How many does that drum hold? And how many normal bullets do you think could fit in there? Also, no I am not thinking of a revolver rifle. Rather, I imagine some sort of push through mechanism like in a machine gun that ensures each bullet is safely sealed inside the chamber before firing.

6 rounds. It is not so much a drum as a cylinder like a revolver pistol.

[Immoren]

The magazine holds 5 rounds for the V1 Rifle. The V1 Carbine holds 30 rounds.

The shotgun is pretty flimsy indeed, I am looking for another design to replace it. If you have any suggestions, Do let me know.

If you like a onorthodox shotgun design, why not go for something like the ENARM Pentagun?


Or perhaps the Franchi mod .410?

They look like they could be out of some ye olde scifi.

[Purpelia]

This makes me think. Would there be a way to adapt such a design to fire normal rounds? How many does that drum hold? And how many normal bullets do you think could fit in there? Also, no I am not thinking of a revolver rifle. Rather, I imagine some sort of push through mechanism like in a machine gun that ensures each bullet is safely sealed inside the chamber before firing.

6 rounds. It is not so much a drum as a cylinder like a revolver pistol.

That's what I meant. So 6 x 18.3mm (12 gauge) I assume... That might well fit say 20 normal bullets if my math isn't off. This just might work.

[Swedish Democratic Republic]

The AT-rifle is as i said, Not a true bolt action design, It uses a gas operated system that when a shot is fired pushes the handle up automatically, When you pull it down a new round is pushed into the chamber, A new semi-automatic system is being designed to replace it. It is a very unusual and strange design, That we can deffinitely agree on.

It would never work. And even if it would, this configuration does not suit a .50 rifle.

Make it either a bullpup design or a ordinary one. That way you could also use it as a heavy sniper.

And if you have a modern day army, name it an anti material weapon instead. A .50 will not be able to take out a contemporary tank.
I think when designing your own weapon, you will have to take a closer look at weapons that are actually real and work.

I don't think your AT rifle or your shotgun would.

It's a 25mm rifle, It would be able to take out lightskins and APCs and also light tanks at the time of its adoption, It has been in service since 1935 so today its role has deffinitely changed. I might also add that its service today is limited. Rework will begin instantly.

[Kaledy]

A helical-feed magazine is an interesting type of magazine for holding a lot of rounds.

It is however only used for submachineguns as far as I know.

[Bezombia]

we've always had gunporn, but how about gungore?

This is a bullpup Mosin-Nagant. Apparently it's a production weapon known as the OTs-48K.

Remind me again why bullpup sniper-rifle conversions of WWII bolt action rifles aren't common?

[Immoren]

A helical-feed magazine is an interesting type of magazine for holding a lot of rounds.

It is however only used for submachineguns as far as I know.

Because SMGs/PDWs probably are only weapons were need for compacteness overrides the disadvantage of complexity(?).

[Ardavia]

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we've always had gunporn, but how about gungore?

This is a bullpup Mosin-Nagant. Apparently it's a production weapon known as the OTs-48K.

Remind me again why bullpup sniper-rifle conversions of WWII bolt action rifles aren't common?

MY EYES. MY EYES ARE BLEEDING

[Blackledge]

I had posted earlier a platoon idea. Suggestions are welcome, particularly with regards to including a designated marksman:

Platoon HQ

Platoon leader - (Second Leftenant;AR)
Platoon 2ic - (Staff/Colour Sergeant;AR)
RTO - (Private-Lance Corporal; AR)
Medic - (Private-Lance Corporal; AR)]
Mortarman - (Lance Corporal; mortar)

3x Rifle Sections

Section leader - (Sergeant ;AR)
First Team
Fire Team Leader (Corporal/Lance Corporal)
Light Machine Gunner (Private)
Rifleman (Private)
Grenadier (Private)
Second team
Fire Team Leader (Corporal/Lance Corporal)
Automatic Rifleman (Private)
Rifleman (Private)
Grenadier (Private)

Weapons Section (shares ride with Platoon HQ)

GPMG Team Leader (Corporal)
GPMG Assistant Gunner (Private)
Anti-Armour/RLR Team Leader (Corporal)
Assistant Gunner (Private)

Make both riflemen in each section a DM and add two men support sniper team with bolt action(s) to the weapons section. *nods*

[Imperializt Russia]

A helical-feed magazine is an interesting type of magazine for holding a lot of rounds.

It is however only used for submachineguns as far as I know.

The North Koreans manufactured a helical magazine for AK-type rifles.
It's been seen on rifles carried by Kim Jong-Un's personal protection detail. It's unknown if it's made for 7.62x39 or 5.45x39 (or even both), but the capacity is estimated to be 75-150 rounds.

The layout of this type of magazine allows a large number of rounds to be stored loaded in the weapon in a confined space, and obviously all the benefits of a large magazine - so it's ideal for protection details, or personal defence weapons for vehicle and air crews. Its disadvantage is less efficient carrying of additional magazines. A fifty-round helical magazine of 9x19, for example, will occupy the space of four 9x19 box magazines - since those box magazines can be of almost unlimited length, this may offer at absolute practical minimum, sixty, or eighty or as often standard, 120 rounds for the same pouch space.