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by Menassa » Fri Nov 15, 2013 5:50 pm
by Pandeeria » Fri Nov 15, 2013 5:51 pm
Shershah wrote:Pandeeria wrote:You said good and bad are subjective. Yet you're saying that homosexuality is bad (which according to YOU is subjective) because it's unnatural (which is also subjective, and wrong).
You destroyed, and contradicted you're own argument. You made your own argument moot.
Unnatural is not subjective and it is not wrong. I have already stated why.Pandeeria wrote:Due to the fact that you haven't really even debated properly, haven't provided any sources, and have contradicted you're on such a massive level, I might just take this as a concession.
Na, in your dreams.NEO Rome Republic wrote:Nature is simply everything within the universe and it's natural laws. Homosexuals and homosexual acts are part of nature, therefore they are natural.
Congratz on taking things out of context and a fail logic and failing to understand that words have different meanings.Liriena wrote:You said "nature" was your source. Hard to backpedal from that.
Do us a favour and never come back.
1) And the point still stands.
2) Going to disappoint you. I am just taking a break. I will be back
Lavochkin wrote:Never got why educated people support communism.
In capitalism, you pretty much have a 50/50 chance of being rich or poor. In communism, it's 1/99. What makes people think they have the luck/skill to become the 1% if they can't even succeed in a 50/50 society???
by Lost heros » Fri Nov 15, 2013 5:51 pm
by Liriena » Fri Nov 15, 2013 5:52 pm
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by Shershah » Fri Nov 15, 2013 5:53 pm
Pandeeria wrote:You stated that something unnatural is BAD. Yet you said that good and BAD are subjective. You destroyed your own point. Concede, or make a new argument. This time one preferably that is logical and has scientific grounds or as you call it: "political bias."
by Liriena » Fri Nov 15, 2013 5:53 pm
Fascist Russian Empire wrote:Liriena wrote:Will you ever grow a bit of intellectual honesty and provide sources for your lies?
You know, you could refute his claims instead of demanding sources. I highly disagree with him(and so does every credible scientist in the past several decades), but the least you could do is offer a counter-point to his claims.
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by Liriena » Fri Nov 15, 2013 5:53 pm
I am: A pansexual, pantheist, green socialist An aspiring writer and journalist | Political compass stuff: Economic Left/Right: -8.13 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.92 For: Grassroots democracy, workers' self-management, humanitarianism, pacifism, pluralism, environmentalism, interculturalism, indigenous rights, minority rights, LGBT+ rights, feminism, optimism Against: Nationalism, authoritarianism, fascism, conservatism, populism, violence, ethnocentrism, racism, sexism, religious bigotry, anti-LGBT+ bigotry, death penalty, neoliberalism, tribalism, cynicism ⚧Copy and paste this in your sig if you passed biology and know gender and sex aren't the same thing.⚧ |
by Neo Rome Republic » Fri Nov 15, 2013 5:53 pm
by Liriena » Fri Nov 15, 2013 5:54 pm
Shershah wrote:Pandeeria wrote:You stated that something unnatural is BAD. Yet you said that good and BAD are subjective. You destroyed your own point. Concede, or make a new argument. This time one preferably that is logical and has scientific grounds or as you call it: "political bias."
I am not going to do either.
I am: A pansexual, pantheist, green socialist An aspiring writer and journalist | Political compass stuff: Economic Left/Right: -8.13 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.92 For: Grassroots democracy, workers' self-management, humanitarianism, pacifism, pluralism, environmentalism, interculturalism, indigenous rights, minority rights, LGBT+ rights, feminism, optimism Against: Nationalism, authoritarianism, fascism, conservatism, populism, violence, ethnocentrism, racism, sexism, religious bigotry, anti-LGBT+ bigotry, death penalty, neoliberalism, tribalism, cynicism ⚧Copy and paste this in your sig if you passed biology and know gender and sex aren't the same thing.⚧ |
by Menassa » Fri Nov 15, 2013 5:54 pm
by Fascist Russian Empire » Fri Nov 15, 2013 5:54 pm
Liriena wrote:Fascist Russian Empire wrote:You know, you could refute his claims instead of demanding sources. I highly disagree with him(and so does every credible scientist in the past several decades), but the least you could do is offer a counter-point to his claims.
We already have, and all he has to say about it is "your sources are biased, therefor I don't read them".
by Pandeeria » Fri Nov 15, 2013 5:54 pm
Shershah wrote:Pandeeria wrote:You stated that something unnatural is BAD. Yet you said that good and BAD are subjective. You destroyed your own point. Concede, or make a new argument. This time one preferably that is logical and has scientific grounds or as you call it: "political bias."
I am not going to do either.
Lavochkin wrote:Never got why educated people support communism.
In capitalism, you pretty much have a 50/50 chance of being rich or poor. In communism, it's 1/99. What makes people think they have the luck/skill to become the 1% if they can't even succeed in a 50/50 society???
by Immoren » Fri Nov 15, 2013 5:55 pm
discoursedrome wrote:everyone knows that quote, "I know not what weapons World War Three will be fought, but World War Four will be fought with sticks and stones," but in a way it's optimistic and inspiring because it suggests that even after destroying civilization and returning to the stone age we'll still be sufficiently globalized and bellicose to have another world war right then and there
by Lost heros » Fri Nov 15, 2013 5:55 pm
by Olthar » Fri Nov 15, 2013 5:56 pm
Immoren wrote:Still fighting windmills, eh?
by Menassa » Fri Nov 15, 2013 5:56 pm
by The Emerald Dawn » Fri Nov 15, 2013 5:56 pm
Immoren wrote:Still fighting windmills, eh?
by New haven america » Fri Nov 15, 2013 5:56 pm
Immoren wrote:Still fighting windmills, eh?
by Shershah » Fri Nov 15, 2013 5:57 pm
Pandeeria wrote:Shershah wrote:
I am not going to do either.
So you refuse to stay on your sunken ship? (If you don't understand what that means, it's a metaphor for your argument which you yourself killed and sunk it.)
You defeated your own argument. Refusing to concede or make another argument is just refusing to debate properly.
by Menassa » Fri Nov 15, 2013 5:57 pm
by Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro » Fri Nov 15, 2013 5:57 pm
by Fascist Russian Empire » Fri Nov 15, 2013 5:58 pm
Shershah wrote:Pandeeria wrote:
So you refuse to stay on your sunken ship? (If you don't understand what that means, it's a metaphor for your argument which you yourself killed and sunk it.)
You defeated your own argument. Refusing to concede or make another argument is just refusing to debate properly.
Look, your misunderstandings and misinterpretations doesn't change anything. The point still stands. You are free to believe otherwise.Fascist Russian Empire wrote:Well, maybe after reading enough posts telling him he's wrong he'll start changing his opinions. Doubtful, but possible.
You are an optimist aren't you ? Let me save you the trouble. Not going to happen.Liriena wrote:Then get a blog and stop wasting our time. This is a debate forum, and there are some rules of courtesy in debates.
Not upto you to dictate.
by Liriena » Fri Nov 15, 2013 5:58 pm
I am: A pansexual, pantheist, green socialist An aspiring writer and journalist | Political compass stuff: Economic Left/Right: -8.13 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.92 For: Grassroots democracy, workers' self-management, humanitarianism, pacifism, pluralism, environmentalism, interculturalism, indigenous rights, minority rights, LGBT+ rights, feminism, optimism Against: Nationalism, authoritarianism, fascism, conservatism, populism, violence, ethnocentrism, racism, sexism, religious bigotry, anti-LGBT+ bigotry, death penalty, neoliberalism, tribalism, cynicism ⚧Copy and paste this in your sig if you passed biology and know gender and sex aren't the same thing.⚧ |
by Pandeeria » Fri Nov 15, 2013 5:59 pm
Shershah wrote:Pandeeria wrote:
So you refuse to stay on your sunken ship? (If you don't understand what that means, it's a metaphor for your argument which you yourself killed and sunk it.)
You defeated your own argument. Refusing to concede or make another argument is just refusing to debate properly.
Look, your misunderstandings and misinterpretations doesn't change anything. The point still stands. You are free to believe otherwise.Fascist Russian Empire wrote:Well, maybe after reading enough posts telling him he's wrong he'll start changing his opinions. Doubtful, but possible.
You are an optimist aren't you ? Let me save you the trouble. Not going to happen.Liriena wrote:Then get a blog and stop wasting our time. This is a debate forum, and there are some rules of courtesy in debates.
Not upto you to dictate.
Lavochkin wrote:Never got why educated people support communism.
In capitalism, you pretty much have a 50/50 chance of being rich or poor. In communism, it's 1/99. What makes people think they have the luck/skill to become the 1% if they can't even succeed in a 50/50 society???
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