Gay Weddings Legalized in....wait, Vietnam?

[Lost heros]

Why? Why do you hate certain people for being slightly different from you?

I don't hate them. I just hate the activity.

Why??

[Pandeeria]

Why discriminate against gays?

It is not discrimination. I don't hate them. I just want to help them. Ofcourse i am sure it is not going to be seen as "help" by all, regardless of their sexuality.

Forcing people to not be themselves isn't help. If anything, it's punishment.

[Shershah]

I don't mind them marrying those of the opposite sex. I don't want to encourage LGBT activities. That is all.

You can't encourage it. People are rather Heterosexual, Bisexual, Homosexual, Asexual, Pansexual, etc. banning gay marriage doesn't decrease nor increase the amount of gays.

What i am trying to say is that it should be "discouraged". They should be "diverted" to a heterosexual relationship.

[Shershah]

Forcing people to not be themselves isn't help. If anything, it's punishment.

Yet we can't be "anything" we want to be. Complete freedom is not an option if society is to function.

[Aeken]

You can't encourage it. People are rather Heterosexual, Bisexual, Homosexual, Asexual, Pansexual, etc. banning gay marriage doesn't decrease nor increase the amount of gays.

What i am trying to say is that it should be "discouraged". They should be "diverted" to a heterosexual relationship.

And if it's against their will?

[Pandeeria]

You can't encourage it. People are rather Heterosexual, Bisexual, Homosexual, Asexual, Pansexual, etc. banning gay marriage doesn't decrease nor increase the amount of gays.

What i am trying to say is that it should be "discouraged". They should be "diverted" to a heterosexual relationship.

Discouraging it doesn't decrease nor increase how many gays. Forcing people to love people they don't love is quite appalling.

[Pandeeria]

Forcing people to not be themselves isn't help. If anything, it's punishment.

Yet we can't be "anything" we want to be. Complete freedom is not an option if society is to function.

You're comparing gay marriage to absolute freedom?

[The Scientific States]

You can't encourage it. People are rather Heterosexual, Bisexual, Homosexual, Asexual, Pansexual, etc. banning gay marriage doesn't decrease nor increase the amount of gays.

What i am trying to say is that it should be "discouraged". They should be "diverted" to a heterosexual relationship.

I'm back, I can't let you post this crap.

So you're saying that they should be forced to be in heterosexual relationships?

That's a horrible abuse of human rights.

[Shershah]

What i am trying to say is that it should be "discouraged". They should be "diverted" to a heterosexual relationship.

And if it's against their will?

So be it.

(Yes i full realize what i sound like right now).

What i am trying to say is that it should be "discouraged". They should be "diverted" to a heterosexual relationship.

Discouraging it doesn't decrease nor increase how many gays. Forcing people to love people they don't love is quite appalling.

Yet there have been people who have lived life married to the opposite sex and perfectly alright while actually they were gay. I am sure you must have heard atleast a few cases.

[Shershah]

Yet we can't be "anything" we want to be. Complete freedom is not an option if society is to function.

You're comparing gay marriage to absolute freedom?

No, but that some freedoms are better not granted.

[Lost heros]

You can't encourage it. People are rather Heterosexual, Bisexual, Homosexual, Asexual, Pansexual, etc. banning gay marriage doesn't decrease nor increase the amount of gays.

What i am trying to say is that it should be "discouraged". They should be "diverted" to a heterosexual relationship.

Yay, for forcing people to do things they don't want to do, and for forcing people to be people they don't want to be!

[The Scientific States]

And if it's against their will?

So be it.

(Yes i full realize what i sound like right now).

Discouraging it doesn't decrease nor increase how many gays. Forcing people to love people they don't love is quite appalling.

Yet there have been people who have lived life married to the opposite sex and perfectly alright while actually they were gay. I am sure you must have heard atleast a few cases.

Just go. Honestly that's almost never the case. Any LGBT person would want to be with someone they love, not someone do the opposite sex.

[Pandeeria]

You're comparing gay marriage to absolute freedom?

No, but that some freedoms are better not granted.

No. Deliberately oppressing people for NO reason whatsoever is always bad.

[Aeken]

And if it's against their will?

So be it.

(Yes i full realize what i sound like right now).

Discouraging it doesn't decrease nor increase how many gays. Forcing people to love people they don't love is quite appalling.

Yet there have been people who have lived life married to the opposite sex and perfectly alright while actually they were gay. I am sure you must have heard atleast a few cases.

Despicable.

[Lost heros]

You're comparing gay marriage to absolute freedom?

No, but that some freedoms are better not granted.

Your right, freedom of expression is rather stupid. Why don't we just force everybody to give up their identity and become apart of the hivemind.

[Shershah]

No, but that some freedoms are better not granted.

No. Deliberately oppressing people for NO reason whatsoever is always bad.

Yet we are still in the same state, all of us. Just a more subtle form of slavery. The alternative ? anarchy and chaos.

[Pandeeria]

And if it's against their will?

So be it.

(Yes i full realize what i sound like right now).

"Let's get right-wing authoritarianism up in this!"

What i am trying to say is that it should be "discouraged". They should be "diverted" to a heterosexual relationship.

Discouraging it doesn't decrease nor increase how many gays. Forcing people to love people they don't love is quite appalling.

Yet there have been people who have lived life married to the opposite sex and perfectly alright while actually they were gay. I am sure you must have heard atleast a few cases.

Those are extremely rare cases. Besides even if those few rare cases, they most likely were Bi/Pansexual.

[The Scientific States]

No. Deliberately oppressing people for NO reason whatsoever is always bad.

Yet we are still in the same state, all of us. Just a more subtle form of slavery. The alternative ? anarchy and chaos.

What?

So letting gays be happy causes anarchy?

Please elaborate.

[Pandeeria]

No. Deliberately oppressing people for NO reason whatsoever is always bad.

Yet we are still in the same state, all of us. Just a more subtle form of slavery. The alternative ? anarchy and chaos.

So not only do you admit that you want subtle slavery, but you equate that we most either allow slavery and not allow gays to marry or it's chaos?


Just... what?

[Grenartia]

So, those who are sterile can marry, but gays can't even though neither can reproduce? What is your real reason for discriminating against gays.

I don't mind them marrying those of the opposite sex. I don't want to encourage LGBT activities. That is all.

And what, praytell, is the problem with "encouraging" LGBT "activities"?

Why discriminate against gays?

1. It is not discrimination. 2. I don't hate them. 3. I just want to help them. 4. Of course i am sure it is not going to be seen as "help" by all, regardless of their sexuality.

1. Yeah, it is.

2. Not the way it looks from over here.

3. Help us what? Be more miserable? Suffer? If so, you're doing a perfectly good job of it.

4. Maybe because it isn't "help" at all?

You can't encourage it. People are rather Heterosexual, Bisexual, Homosexual, Asexual, Pansexual, etc. banning gay marriage doesn't decrease nor increase the amount of gays.

1. What i am trying to say is that it should be "discouraged". 2. They should be "diverted" to a heterosexual relationship.

1. Why? Does it inherently deprive people of their reasonable rights without informed consent?

2. We tried making people do that. It only made things worse.

Forcing people to not be themselves isn't help. If anything, it's punishment.

Yet we can't be "anything" we want to be. Complete freedom is not an option if society is to function.

But there are reasonable expectations for freedom. And you're advocating unreasonable and quite frankly, stupid and unenforceable restrictions.

No. Deliberately oppressing people for NO reason whatsoever is always bad.

Yet we are still in the same state, all of us. Just a more subtle form of slavery. The alternative ? anarchy and chaos.

Hobbes. Was. Not. (Totally.) Correct.

[Shershah]

Those are extremely rare cases. Besides even if those few rare cases, they most likely were Bi/Pansexual.

While i can't prove or disprove that, the thing is it can be done. With the right kind of therapy to help and maybe in the future, a "cure" it is possible.

[The Scientific States]

Those are extremely rare cases. Besides even if those few rare cases, they most likely were Bi/Pansexual.

While i can't prove or disprove that, the thing is it can be done. With the right kind of therapy to help and maybe in the future, a "cure" it is possible.

You can't cure something that isn't some sort of disease or disorder.

[Condunum]

No. Deliberately oppressing people for NO reason whatsoever is always bad.

Yet we are still in the same state, all of us. Just a more subtle form of slavery. The alternative ? anarchy and chaos.

Got a source for those... baseless claims?

[Geilinor]

You can't encourage it. People are rather Heterosexual, Bisexual, Homosexual, Asexual, Pansexual, etc. banning gay marriage doesn't decrease nor increase the amount of gays.

What i am trying to say is that it should be "discouraged". They should be "diverted" to a heterosexual relationship.

Why? Tell us how a heterosexual relationship is inherently superior.

[Lost heros]

Those are extremely rare cases. Besides even if those few rare cases, they most likely were Bi/Pansexual.

While i can't prove or disprove that, the thing is it can be done. With the right kind of therapy to help and maybe in the future, a "cure" it is possible.

Once you prove that homosexuality is a disease, we'd be more than happy to start researching a cure. Until then, stop discriminating against certain people.